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  1. trinto_duaba

    trinto_duaba Jedi Youngling star 3

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    When Leia is wounded, Chewie shows up on a AT-ST and Han gets an idea. I assume it was to blow the bunker door open. Or was it something else?
     
  2. Lars_Muul

    Lars_Muul Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    It was to call the imperials inside the bunker and ask for more troops. Which he did.
     
  3. -_-_-_-_-_-

    -_-_-_-_-_- Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    What Lars said.

    Disguise himself as an Imperial, contact the bunker, and lure them out thinking the Rebels were retreating.
     
  4. The_Anakin_Wannabe

    The_Anakin_Wannabe Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I was actually wondering if that is Han or not. It doesn't look or sound like him. Plus Han is by the bunker door when it opens, so he would have had to jump down from the AT-AT and get to the bunker very quickly.
     
  5. Bib Fortuna Twi'lek

    Bib Fortuna Twi'lek Jedi Youngling star 10

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    It is definitely Han that calls into the bunker.
     
  6. Dark Lady Mara

    Dark Lady Mara Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I always thought Han was doing the voice while holding the dead AT-ST pilot up in front of the viewscreen so the call would seem more legitimate. The staff in the bunker probably knew what the pilot was supposed to look like.
     
  7. Lt.Cmdr.Thrawn

    Lt.Cmdr.Thrawn Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    We'll have to check... does the guy on the screen blink?
     
  8. Bib Fortuna Twi'lek

    Bib Fortuna Twi'lek Jedi Youngling star 10

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    Not that I remember. He's holding the mike over his mouth, so we can't see that part of his face.
     
  9. The___

    The___ Jedi Youngling star 3

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    I always thought it was Han. Using the radio to cover his face was part of his disguise. How clevah!!

    Now what he should have done to make it more believable he's an AT-ST operator was speak with an accent. A good majority if not all officers of the Empire sport an accent.
     
  10. Shloz

    Shloz Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Look carefully at the eyes between the helmet and the com handset on the screen.

    It's Han, all right.
     
  11. 3263827

    3263827 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    From the shooting script:

    HAN/PILOT (VO)
    It's over, Commander. The Rebels have been
    routed. They're fleeing into the woods. We
    need reinforcements to continue the pursuit.



    VO = voice over I assume. I'm guessing the inclusion of "Pilot" means he's either dressed up as the AT-ST pilot, or using him as a puppet.

    The weird thing ... 2 seconds after that you see Han standing outside the bunker doors, dressed in his regular attire. How could he have been dressed as the AT-ST pilot and/or actually been in the AT-ST?

    This scene always bothered me because of this ...
     
  12. DarthBurns

    DarthBurns Jedi Master star 4

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    It could have been pre-recorded.
     
  13. 3263827

    3263827 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Good point, I never thought of that.
     
  14. Darth Dark Helmet

    Darth Dark Helmet Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Actually, sinec the guy talking ont he screen looks just like Harrison Ford, I qould guess its Han.
     
  15. Spacehunter24

    Spacehunter24 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Han didn't need to be wearing the pilot's entire uniform. All you see his face, so all he had to do was climb up, slip the helmet on, make the call, then dump the helment and jump back down and get into position.

    Now, jumping down might have been a bit risky, but maybe Chewie was down their with his arms out waiting to catch him.
     
  16. Shloz

    Shloz Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Since all you see on the comm screen is his head with the helmet, all he had to do was put on the helmet, talk to the commander, then jump back out of the walker minus the helmet. I think he could easily do this in the time it took to organize the "three squads". Besides, we don't really know how much time it might actually take to get the squads organized.
     
  17. MisFitToy

    MisFitToy Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Yeah, VO means Voice-Over, meaning you hear the actor's voice, but they aren't actually on screen, whether they be in the same room talking to someone and you are only seeing the actor who is being spoken to, and not the speaking actor.

    but to stay on topic, i always believed that to be Han in the vidscreen
     
  18. ForceHeretic

    ForceHeretic Jedi Youngling star 4

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    All you see is his head, I always figured it was just Hand who had put the helmet on and used the radio to cover his face

    Not to complicated like people are trying to make it
     
  19. La_Capitan

    La_Capitan Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I believe it wasn't han.

    1.) The at-st driver is still in the cockpit, just knocked out for a bit by the Ewoks.

    2.) The man has a helmet and gloves and is in the atst. han was on the ground. why would an atst have a recorder in it, and why would they wait for han to do it get out and be on the ground until they play it. They didn't it was a live feed, and the atst driver was the one who said it all.

    3.) They threatend the man to do it and save his life or die by not saying it.

    4.)They would have recognized han even with a helmet and mic infront of him. these people were probably working at the shield generator the entire time ds2 was being built. they knew each other really well.

    Its the atst driver and not han, or is it...
     
  20. Durwood

    Durwood Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    It's a continuity error. Nothing more. There's no reason it had to be Han making the call, so all these rationalizations that the message was pre-redorded, or that Han moved really fast to get to the bunker door are pretty pointless.

    It's just a classic film mistake. Nothing more.
     
  21. HanSolo29

    HanSolo29 RPF/SWC/Fan Art Manager & Bill Pullman Connoisseur star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    I thought it was the AT-ST driver at first also, but now that I look at it closer and obtained a copy of the script, I'm beginning to think otherwise.

    First of all, if it was just a regular transmission from the driver, why would he be holding the mic that close to his face? On a regular transmission, people don't tend to do that. He was obviously trying to hide his face. Also, listen to the voice very closer...it is definitely Han...I think... :p
     
  22. DamonD

    DamonD Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Looks like Han. Sounds like Han. That's Han in my book, whether it was pre-recorded or not.
     
  23. Darth Dark Helmet

    Darth Dark Helmet Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Behind the mike, on the screen, it is Harrison Ford. Not some namless At-ST driver. If you look closely you can see this. So unless Harrison Ford was also playing the AT-ST driver int he movie, it is Han making the transmission.
     
  24. 3263827

    3263827 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    How about an image?

    1. Looks *very* much like Harrison Ford on screen

    2. Appears to be using a walkie-talkie type communicator - not regular Star Wars equipment.

    3. The voice definitely does not sound like Harrison Ford, although that might just be "comm distortion".

    I'm still not convinced either way.

     
  25. Darth_Deagol

    Darth_Deagol Jedi Master star 2

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    Crikey, anyone would have thought this would have had a simple answer.
    I think it was Han, simply because I have never thought anything else. I guess maybe they could have held a dead guy up to the camera, though. Nah.
     
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