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Obi-Wan should have killed Jango, not Mace.

Discussion in 'Archive: Attack of the Clones' started by jengafett, Nov 11, 2004.

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  1. jengafett

    jengafett Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I've never actually thought of this before, but it came into mind just before. Don't get me wrong, I think AOTC is still very well made, this is just an idea I thought could be better.

    It would have made more sense for Obi-Wan to kill Jango. I mean he was the one who went to Kamino and found out about the clones and who Jango Fett was working for. He then reported it back to Mace and Yoda who told Obi-Wan to bring Jango to them. So Obi-Wan then went to get Jango, then they had a little fight in the rain.

    Then on Geonosis, Mace killed Jango by decapitating him. I think that was a bit evil of Mace. If anyone had anything against Jango, it's Obi-Wan. I mean Jango isn't even a big threat to the Jedi. He didn't deserve to be decapitated. Jango and Obi should have finished what they started on Kamino.

    Please post your ideas.
     
  2. Go-Mer-Tonic

    Go-Mer-Tonic Jedi Youngling star 6

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    Let's see, Jango shoots fire at Mace, he then starts to shoot twin blasters at Mace.

    At what point do you think it's okay for Mace to protect himself?
     
  3. jengafett

    jengafett Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I dunno, this aint my thread I reposted it for sum 1 else who posted it in the Ep III Boards, personally I don't care who killed him.
     
  4. Forceflow98

    Forceflow98 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    "At what point do you think it's okay for Mace to protect himself?"

    Mace didn't have to kill him, he could have just disarmed him.
     
  5. DarthBoba

    DarthBoba Manager Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    hahaha, sure. I'm a soldier. The last thing I'm thinking about when people shoot at me is how to be nice to them.

    Granted, jedi aren't soldiers (usually) but in this situation Mace's action was plenty justified.
     
  6. soitscometothis

    soitscometothis Chosen One star 6

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    Mace didn't really have to be in AOTC at all. His confrontation with Dooku didn't tell us anything we didn't already know, all it did was give Sam Jackson some lines to say and threaten Jango with his saber, and that was to give Jango a reason to go after Mace.

    The Jedi didn't really need a leader on Geonosis, Mace didn't give out orders or anything. You could have cut-out the Dooku/Mace confrontation and just skip straight to the Jedi entering the arena. Jango could then have gone after Kenobi and given that sub-plot some closure. When Dooku addresses the all but defeated Jedi in the arena, either Padme or Obi-Wan could have replied; Padme, because she's a senator and the person he's been trying to kill, Obi-Wan because we've already had them talking in the temptation scene.

    If you wanted to put Mace into the action at the end it would have made more sense for him to fight Dooku, having already established that they were friends and the best swordsmen in the order. But whatever...


     
  7. Ker-Soth

    Ker-Soth Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Yeah, I had a topic about that some time ago a pretty much everybody agrees that Mace is the fifth wheel there.If there is an actual plot that will be resolved in EpIII and needed Mace to kill Jango, I'm not sure if it will be worth it. If of course it actually exists.
     
  8. CooI_Jedi

    CooI_Jedi Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Lucas had to explain why Mace was second to Yoda. Obi Wan has got enough fame. Killing Maul, carrying the movie, etc. Mace and the Jedi power needed to be esstablished in this film, as well as TPM.
     
  9. Dagobah-jay

    Dagobah-jay Jedi Youngling star 1

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    and honestly, is it really established? it would have been better if mace tracked down dooko in the hanger and saved OB1 and Anakin. then let yoda and sidious go at it in ROTS
     
  10. CooI_Jedi

    CooI_Jedi Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Mace was part of the War at the time.
     
  11. Mortimer_Nerdly

    Mortimer_Nerdly Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I initially expected Jango to live up to some point Episode III.

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  12. BauconBatista

    BauconBatista Jedi Padawan star 4

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    He didn't deserve to be decapitated.

    BUT WHAT ABOUT POOR TREBBY?!!?!?!?!?

    :_|
     
  13. Jort

    Jort Jedi Padawan star 4

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    He had to die. There was no way Mace could've disarmed him fast enough. And he had to take him out before the jetpack worked again. That was his shatterpoint.
     
  14. SLAVE2

    SLAVE2 Jedi Knight star 5

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    I was thinking when watching AOTC recently that Obi-Wan could have killed Jango in the arena, and to show case Mace's power they could of had him use the force to 'pull' down one of the Federation starships as it was taking off (not doing it with ease of course, and showing signs of being drained after). That would make it obvious just how powerful he is.
     
  15. CooI_Jedi

    CooI_Jedi Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Mace didint know what else Jango packed with that suit. All secret gagdets, and hidden guns, the only way to stop him was to kill him. Another reason.
     
  16. Decapitated-Jango

    Decapitated-Jango Jedi Master star 4

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    Mace didn't really kill the Jango. 8-}

    Obi killing Jango would have made me happier, mostly because he had a history with him, and would have connected him further to Boba's resulting revenge on the Jedi. (which could have been played out in EPIII very nicely)

    Mace is too aloof to really care about. As for liking him just because he's powerful, Anakin claims that Obi is "as powerful as Master Windu, and as wise as Master Yoda." Mace really is quite the disposable character.

    *sigh*
     
  17. DARTH_CORLEONE

    DARTH_CORLEONE Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Obiwan was a bit preoccupied with a certain six-legged adversary at the time. Jango proved to be quite a tough cookie, though. Obiwan had a hard time with him earlier, and Jango perforated that Gumbi-looking Jedi, so maybe it took a 'master' like Mace to finish him off cleanly.
     
  18. DarkSithDrew

    DarkSithDrew Jedi Master star 4

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    Well, in the origanal trilogy Obi-Wan would have not been able to get of tantooine so easily :p
     
  19. Ker-Soth

    Ker-Soth Jedi Youngling star 3

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    The Ben-Jango fight wasn't even fair. Ben had to pay attention to certain ten-year-old with BIG guns at the time. He should have been given the chance to 'clear his name' instead of killing that six legged something. Mace could have done that.
     
  20. DARTH_CORLEONE

    DARTH_CORLEONE Jedi Padawan star 4

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    "Hey....Mace....switch partners!"
     
  21. EMPEROR_WINDU

    EMPEROR_WINDU Force Ghost star 5

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    The character of Mace Windu is expanded in each episode, and I believe it will do the same in III... Mace killed Jango easily and while he could easily have stopped at chopping off his hand.Then what? Run around the arena with Jango draped over his shoulder? I dont think so, the Fett man needed to be taken down, and Mace Windu did it with ease...Because he is second only to Yoda


    And from what I have heard the plan WAS to have Mace track down Dooku and save Anakin and Obi, but it turned out that ILM was going to be able to make the duel with Yoda believable, so Lucas agreed to go with Yoda
     
  22. Timothor

    Timothor Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Well... Mace Windu is not a main character, but he plays his parts... and it is only fair to give him some spotlight in killing Jango.

    Why leave him alive anyway? You've got this bounty hunter who is trying to kill him, and who attempted to kill Obi AND Padme. Jango Fett is a henchman of the COIS in the film, and nothing could be gained from Jango's survival, besides a risk of having him run loose across the galaxy once more. There was no injustice in Jango's death. Disarming him would do no good. Most probably Jango would take out another gadjet or pick up a blaster rifle from a fallen droid.

    As I said, Mace Windu was the perfect one to kill Jango. Obi had his fight with him, and Mace Windu did not kill any characters so far so anyway thats my opinion.
     
  23. youngvader

    youngvader Jedi Knight star 5

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    At the point of the movie, Mace is a more powerful Jedi than Obi-Wan. So it makes sense that he kills him.
     
  24. Timothor

    Timothor Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I cant agree on that one... I'm sure any Jedi is capable of killing Jango. Sure, Jango is excellent, but few can kill a Jedi directly in close combat.

    But you may say:
    Obi-Wan nearly died on Kamino
    ANS: He has his saber thrown aside and was caught by surprise... he didn't expect direct confrontation immediately.

    Jango stands not a chance against a Jedi alerted to his presence and ready... unless its a padawan not fully trained or something.
     
  25. Forceflow98

    Forceflow98 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    When I said disarmed, I intended it to have multiple meanings (including the literal meaning of cutting off his arms).
     
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