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Obsolete Star Wars Books

Discussion in 'Literature' started by ColeFardreamer, Sep 9, 2023.

  1. ColeFardreamer

    ColeFardreamer Force Ghost star 5

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    What SW books are obsolete now?

    Be that an updated version exists that replaced them without loosing anything the previous one had (like DK does badly). Or be it that its content is also in other books by now collected with others lossless into a larger guide?

    Or if you would downsize your collection to get shelfspace free, which ones would be a goner?

    Nope i do not plan to downsize, just wondering on timelese books and those that failed to live long enough to be worthwhile still?

    Would you rather loose single comic issues or collections?

    How to max out your lore collection without maxing out your budget.

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  2. Dream-Thinker

    Dream-Thinker Jedi Master star 4

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    I own the box set of the Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia. It came out in 2008, so it's a missing a lot of things from after that time, but the bigger "issue" (if that's the right word for it) is that it's pretty redundant with Wookieepedia being a thing. I guess if society ends and we have to reconstruct Star Wars from mythical lost texts it will come in handy but until then it's kinda just taking up space lol.
     
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  3. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 10

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    Or you could consider those actual volumes a more permanent and superior option than the Wook.
     
  4. Dream-Thinker

    Dream-Thinker Jedi Master star 4

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    Wook has more knowledge though.

    I mean, it is cool to hold a physical tome, don't get me wrong. But a constantly updating website with a search function is more convenient.
     
  5. LAJ_FETT

    LAJ_FETT Tech Admin (2007-2023) - She Held Us Together star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I've got the complete SW Fact File collection in binders. I think the amount of space that takes up trumps the Encyclopedia.
     
  6. Dream-Thinker

    Dream-Thinker Jedi Master star 4

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    That sounds terrifying.
    I must have it.
     
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  7. LAJ_FETT

    LAJ_FETT Tech Admin (2007-2023) - She Held Us Together star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    They were only available in a small number of countries. UK was one of them but the US wasn't unless you got it through a specialist store. I had a subscription so I have the whole lot. There's a thread buried in Lit where I posted the contents of each one.
     
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  8. Dream-Thinker

    Dream-Thinker Jedi Master star 4

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    You are wonderful and I want you to know that.
     
  9. LAJ_FETT

    LAJ_FETT Tech Admin (2007-2023) - She Held Us Together star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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  10. Dream-Thinker

    Dream-Thinker Jedi Master star 4

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    Much thanks.
     
  11. LAJ_FETT

    LAJ_FETT Tech Admin (2007-2023) - She Held Us Together star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Just a note that the thread is so old it suffered some formatting issues - probably when we went from IGN's board software to Xenforo.
     
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  12. ColeFardreamer

    ColeFardreamer Force Ghost star 5

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    Just an important sidenote: foreign factfile editions had exclusive content and ran to differing run length/ issue numbers. For a truly complete set one needs f.e. the british run plus german exclusive pages. Ironically germany missed other articles the british run got instead as it ran longest of all. I scanned the german exclusives once.

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  13. Vthuil

    Vthuil Force Ghost star 5

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    Yeah, considering that it's less than a year and a half since Culator and his crony were banned, having a Wookieepedia alternative very much does not feel obsolete to me.
     
  14. Dream-Thinker

    Dream-Thinker Jedi Master star 4

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    That's a good point.
     
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  15. ColeFardreamer

    ColeFardreamer Force Ghost star 5

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    What about older DK (character etc.) guides? I know new updated ones added pages but also lost pages or when reshuffling image space lost or exchanged some pics and text. So it is a pain to know which truly is essential and which obsolete.

    WEG is never obsolete but has differences between first and second editions that are huge and quite significant warranting to own both if completist.

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  16. TFA Novel since it was contradicted by TLJ Movie in TFA Novel Rey and Poe meet for the first time but currently this happens until the End of TLJ
     
  17. Nom von Anor

    Nom von Anor Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    The original Essential Guide to Characters is so obsolete that I adore it. I also still have the 1994 second edition of A Guide to the Star Wars Universe and the 2000 third edition.

    And the "new" in The New Essential Guide to Characters just makes me laugh. The darn thing is 21 years old now. My copy is battered to hell.
     
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  18. mattman8907

    mattman8907 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    what did he do?
     
  19. Nom von Anor

    Nom von Anor Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    [​IMG]
     
  20. JediFett10

    JediFett10 Jedi Grand Master star 3

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  21. iFrankenstein

    iFrankenstein Jedi Knight star 1

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    Still horrendously bitter that we never got Dan Wallace’s third edition, which was finished and ready for publication and then just never came out because of the reboot. So many lost EU books have surfaced recently but still no sign of this one, which to be honest I’d much rather read than Heart of the Jedi or Lightsider.
     
  22. Xammer

    Xammer Jedi Grand Master star 3

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    Hm, I like that we got Lightsider (even though I haven't gotten around to reading it yet)... maybe one day we'll also get the Reenlistment of Baron Fel...
     
  23. mattman8907

    mattman8907 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I'm still waiting for the Legends Essential collection to rerelease the Young Jedi Knights books. Ever since reading that FOX wanted to do a series based on those series of books I wanted to read them (since I never did as a kid.)
     
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  24. iFrankenstein

    iFrankenstein Jedi Knight star 1

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    The Del Rey Twitter account said they’re unable to reprint those because they were published by a different company. However, that company, Berkley Boulevard, and Del Rey are both owned by Penguin Random House so I’m not sure why it would be any different than Del Rey reprinting books from Bantam, which is also owned by Random House.
     
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  25. DarthInternous

    DarthInternous Editorial Director - Random House Worlds star 3 VIP

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    Happy to explain - Here's why. 1) Because publishers do not own the copyright on the books that they publish. And 2)the right to publish isn't held by the "parent company", it is held by the individual publishing imprints (Berkley / Del Rey / Bantam / etc are imprints). By the logic you laid out - Del Rey should be able to just reprint copies of A Game of Thrones by George R.R. Martin or publish their own versions of Master of the Art of French Cooking by Julia Child since both Bantam and Knopf are owned by the same company. But of course, that does not / will not happen. (This is not meant to be a dig at you, at all).

    Copyrights are owned by individual authors (like Mr. Martin), or can be held by entities, and the publishers essentially have a license (the right) to publish those books by those individuals/entities. In the case of Star Wars - Lucasfilm Ltd is the copyright holder (just look at the copyright page of any of your books) of every SW book, regardless of what company/imprint publishes them (Del Rey, DK, Abrams, Insight, etc). So the relationship of the publisher to any other publisher, or any other imprint is irrelevant.

    When a book is out of print, in order for it to be reprinted, one of two things must happen. First, if the "right to publish" or "license" for the publisher has not expired, that publisher would have to decide to reprint them. If that license has expired, or the publisher no longer exists, or the licensor gave up the rights (referred to as "rights have reverted"), then the copyright holder would need to find a new company to establish a new contract with to get the books reprinted.

    So, if DR or any other imprint wants to publish books that were previously published by another imprint/company, they would have to enter into a specific agreement with the copyright holder to do that - with all of the rules, costs, regulations, financial arrangements - as any other publishing agreement.