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Originial Jabba the Hutt

Discussion in 'Classic Trilogy' started by Darth_Morhs, Oct 13, 2005.

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  1. Darth_Morhs

    Darth_Morhs Jedi Youngling star 3

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    My uncle told me when ANH was first in theatres, Jabba the Hutt was a human, and he was surprised when he saw a huge worm in ROTJ. Does anyone have pictures of this original Jabba? Thanks!
     
  2. Bacon164

    Bacon164 Chosen One star 8

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    It was just an old fat dude, and somehow I doubt that deleted scene was in ANH. :confused:
     
  3. Anakin Skywalker

    Anakin Skywalker Jedi Grand Master star 1

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    That scene was orignally filmed with a human actor, but it never appeared in the film that way. The scene was only added back in for the Special Editions - with the CG Jabba.
     
  4. Darth-Adroit

    Darth-Adroit Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Exactly. You can see the footage with the human actor in several documentaries about Star Wars, but the movie was never released with the ?human? footage. There are two things in the SE that clearly show Jabba was originally played by a human:

    1. Han Solo?s line to Jabba, ?you?re a wonderful human being.?
    2. Han Solo walks behind Jabba during their meeting. When Lucas used the human actor this wasn?t a problem. When George decided that Jabba was a giant slug it created all sorts of problems because of Jabba?s dimensions. To fix this for the SE they altered the film to make it look like Han stepped up onto Jabba?s tail.

    They probably should have left the scene out of the SE as well; Jabba didn?t look like Jabba and the critical points of the story were covered elsewhere. The scene was redundant, which is why it was cut out in the first place. Lucas apologists will vehemently defend this scene, but it was really just a chance for George to flex his CG muscles in front of the 1997 movie-going public. That was also redundant because Jurassic Park was a much more elegant demonstration of ILM?s CG greatness.
     
  5. Grand_Moff_Jawa

    Grand_Moff_Jawa Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    His name was Declan Mulholland. Sadly, he died June 29th 1999.
     
  6. DarthLassic007

    DarthLassic007 Jedi Master star 6

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    The "human" Jabba The Hutt was never in the movies. Your uncle saw the "human" Jabba The Hutt from the video "From Star Wars To Jedi". I have the video to. Lucas filmed the scene with the human but never had plans of having Jabba being human. Lucas was later going to superimpose a two legged furry alien but the technology did not allow him to do it, so the scene was not used in the O-OT ANH.


    Edit: In my opinion the ANH DVD Jabba is much better than the ROTJ Jabba.


     
  7. Dark_Jedi_Kenobi

    Dark_Jedi_Kenobi Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Jabba was originally just going to be a large human but George decided he wanted Jabba to be an alien and since he was unable to create a believable form of Jabba for ANH, the scene was cut.
     
  8. ClonedEmperor

    ClonedEmperor Jedi Padawan star 4

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    In the Marvel comics they just grabbed some random alien out of the cantina to be Jabba, which turned out to be a humanoid with an odd face... go figure
     
  9. DanaSolo

    DanaSolo Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I never liked that scene added into the movie. It would have been a cool 'extra' on a DVD, but as for being in the actual movie it just interupts the flow way to much, and like you said it's redundant. Another way for Lucas to show off his new CGI techniques unfortunately.
     
  10. Master_Mace_Windows

    Master_Mace_Windows Jedi Youngling star 1

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    His name was Declan Mulholland. Sadly, he died June 29th 1999.* <---- OMG I turned 9 that day.

    I never got to see it.
     
  11. Mr-Bungle

    Mr-Bungle Jedi Youngling

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    I think it does hurt the pace of the original "Star Wars" and should/should not(depending on ones opinion) have been put back in and the relevance, as we have seen Han and Greedo previously can also be debated, but thats upto Lucas in the end to decide, but if it had been in from 77 who knows?? I think the CG Jabba rendering is o.k and definatly an improvement on the 97 one, though maybe/maybe not it sticks out in 70s movie again it depends on ones opinion and I do prefer the Jabba from ROTJ in the end but I assume Lucas had to use CG for the scene,

    I have seen the Declan Muholland scene and was interesting to see the evolution of the scene from its begginnings.



     
  12. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Jabba was never meant to be human- he was always intended to be an alien (the "you're a wonderful human being" was always ment to be a sarcastic insult/joke).

    Originally he was gonna be a big shaggy bi-ped creature roughly similar to the Gorgs from Fraggle Rock.

    The stop-motion thing couldn';t be pulled off/afforded and that was xed.

    When they came to ROTJ, they went through a lot of new Jabba designs such as a human-esque multi-armed asian-looking fellow) before settling on the slug look.
     
  13. Darth-Adroit

    Darth-Adroit Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Sure the "wonderful part was a joke, but the "human" part was not. If Jabba was never meant to be human why did George film the scene with a human? Sure the "wonderful part was a joke, but the "human" part was not. If Jabba was never meant to be human why did George film the scene with a human? Where did the idea that Jabba was never supposed to be human come from? I?m willing to bet it was George [sarcasm] and we all know he never makes crap up after the fact so that it dovetails with his most recent vision. [/sarcasm]
     
  14. brainsushi

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    As it's already been said, the human actor was used as a filler for the stop-motion creature that was meant to be superimposed into the scene. My guess is George wanted Jabba to be something more than just a guy in a suit, and I would venture to say their budget didn't allow for any sort of animatronic creatures either, so an actor just filled in for what would eventually become an elaborate and impressive stop motion creature.

    Just listen to the way Ford delivers that line - it's very obvious that he's not being serious, and is just trying to get a rise out of Jabba.
     
  15. Darth-Adroit

    Darth-Adroit Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Touché, I stand corrected.
     
  16. jedipadawanjoe14

    jedipadawanjoe14 Jedi Youngling star 3

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    actually, he was never going to be human, the original actor was a fat irish guy, but in the SE GL says that jabba was going to be a sort of fury creature like chewbacca- unless im mistaken
     
  17. PhantomMenace

    PhantomMenace Jedi Knight star 5

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    Yup, Jabba was always going to be an alien. The time contstraints and budget of ANH prevented GL from following through with the stop animation creature, which I'd imagine wouldn't have looked very good anyway. I'm kinda indifferent about the scene itself, though I am glad they fixed the CG Jabba for the DVDs. I couldn't stand the SE version. It's too bad they didn't get the voice fixed, though.
     
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