Palpatine KNEW Anakin had offspring!

Obi-Wan: The Emprior knew as I did that if Anakin had any offspring they would be a great treat to him. - SW6
Palpatine: Only the Darkside can Save Padwan's life. - SW3

I think Palpatine KNEW that she was with child and I think he knew all the time. He didn't really fear them cause he thought he could turn them like he did his father, cause he knew that Vader would one day be a great threat to him.

Vader offten asked for Luke to Join him in taking down Palpatine and ruling the Empire. So he knew if he could turn Luke he could take out Vader and have a new appentece.

 

Not really. Any Jedi/Sith who has a child will automatically have a child who will bear the same abilities as their parent. This is evident in TPM, when Qui-gon ask Shmi who Anakin's father was. He suspected it was a Force user, possibly a Jedi Knight.

 

He says Padme, not padawan.

 

"The Emperor knew as I did that "IF" Anakin had any offspring they would be a great treat to him."

Palpatine knew that if Anakin had offspring, they'd pose a threat, it didn't mean he knew Anakin had already had children.

Palpatine didn't know about Luke unitl "The Empire Strikes Back" remember "We have a new enemy. The young rebel who destroyed the Death Star. I have no doubt this boy is the offspring of Anakin Skywalker"

Also, Palpatine never says "Only the Darkside can Save Padwan's life"

 

Palpatine knew that Padme was pregnant. The real question is when...before or after she died. There was a public funeral of a pregnat Padme on Naboo, so by that time Palpatine should have known for sure that she was pregnant. Wchich also leads me to believe that even when one of the official books for the film says that Palpatine lied to Anakin about him killing Padme...I think it was Organa and the Jedi who spread this rumor...since that would be the only way to protect the children, letting the Sith believe that Padme died after been choked by Anakin... Anakin knew that she was going to die in child birth...but there was the possibility that the child would survive...so if that would have been the official version of her death when Organa delivered the corpse to Naboo...the Sith would have been looking for the child since then...

Also Sidious didn't fear Luke alone, his real fear was that he discovered by ANH and ESB that the Jedi were alive and plotting to destroy him and Luke was the weapon...

 

You missed the " if " in that line from Obi-Wan.

 

have two theories with the emporor: #1 that the emporer knew padme died that maybe the children died with her or #2 he was too full of himself and thought that he can turn them as he did ankin when the time came or he had a vision of them on the darkside and thought he nedn't bother with the offspring and focus with the development of the death star!!

 

"If the Emperor knew, as I knew, that if Anakin were to have any offspring, they would be a threat to him. That is the reason..." The Emperor did not know that Padme had given birth. It was readily apparent to anyone with half a brain that she was expecting a child, Anakin knew that she was expecting, but when she was buried she still appeared pregnant. The Emperor, therefore, did not know that she had actually given birth...and to twins. At least that is what we are supposed to believe as the audience.

It's a little unbelievable but that is why we are asked to suspend our disbelief as viewers of the films.

 

I agree with everyone else here.

Given that Palpatine is a extremely efficient Force User, I highly doubt that he had any trouble detecting that Padmé was pregnant. However, once she died and had a Funeral Service on Naboo, he assumed that the children died with her and were never born.

Boy, he's in for a surprise.

 

Has anyone seen Empire? he says there he knows. "we have a new enemy, the son of skywalker"


SWA.

 

Yeah. Once he figured out that Padmé did give birth before she died. Tricky Jedi.

 

Doesn't mean he knew that in Revenge Of The Sith.

 

My man SWA brings up a good point. Was "the hunt on" for the Son of Skywalker from ROTS onward? Sid/Palp/The Emperor seems awfully cool in ESB. Not "Jeezus, Vader! The Son of Skywalker lives!!!!" Rather, he sounds pretty 'with it', like he suspected this day would come. Could be 50/50 he knows or not:
a) He knows, but doesn't care
b) He knows, but must not let on he knows, letting them make the First Move
c) He doesn't know, but suspects
d) He doesn't know and doesn't care

 

Man, that first post needs some work


Anyway, I think that he sensed it was Anakin's son causing a disturbance in the force in ESB, only after the death star offing in ANH. I just really don't think Palps would have let Luke live had he known he was alive before this. I mean, his first mentioning of him he wants to kill him and has to be talked out of it by Vader.

 

I think Palpatine KNEW that she was with child and I think he knew all the time.

Of course Palpatine knew! Are you kidding?!?! I believe that he also knew that Anakin would cause Padme?s death. That whole thing about offering to help Anakin save her was total bull! Once Anakin turns to the dark side, Padme must die. If she lives, then Anakin has something good in his live and she could possibly turn him back to the good side. That is a risk that Palpatine can?t take. If Padme is dead, then Anakin has nothing except Palpatine and has no reason to leave him.

File this thread under ?Restating the Obvious.?

 

He may or may not have known, since nothing's ever said in ROTS. The only thing that Palpatine knows is that Anakin's afraid to lose her, since Anakin's like an open book to him. But he and Vader did not know about Luke until after ANH.

 

thats what I think that palpatine already knew about the baby or thought it died with padme. Theres only so much u can read into a movie somethings are left to the imaginations of people like us!!

 

I think its pretty obvious palps knows padme was with child. She was pregnant who else could tell? It was obvious. I just thought in ROTS nobody cared to ask her who was the father, that and she tried to hid the pregnancy with different clothes. It's just nobody knew that Anakin and Padme were lovers. Except maybe obi-wan, he kind of thought something was going on between the two. But if Palps knew that Anakin had feelings for her and was afraid of her dying then he must have known that anakin was the father of her child. Palps figured if Padme died the child died as well.

 

That Palpatine could figure out Padme was expecting is far from extraordinary. I find it significantly hard to believe that non of the Jedi ever noticed. Palpatine knew immediately that Anakin and Padme got married, and he didn't even have to use any Sith powers to do it. They got married on Naboo, Palpatine is from Naboo. He knew people who knew people in the NMUSN. (Naboo Mothers Underground Spy Network) If he could find out that they were married, how hard would it have been to ask around the local Administrative Hospitals if Padme had ever gone in for whatever reason? He is the Supreme Chancellor, with those resources, of course he would keep very close tabs on Padme, the closest person to his soon to be apprentice other than Obi-Wan.

 

actually in matthew stovers ROTS

Palpatine admits to anakin that he knew that they were married saying that she was his former queen and has contacts on naboo which had informed him of their relationship.

 

This is just one of those things... it's never mentioned in the book or movie so you have to come up with your own conclusions. I'd find it difficult to believe that he didn't know at all. He found out they're married somehow, and while Anakin didn't tell him about any of it, Palpatine seems to read him like an open book. And even if Sidious didn't realize she was pregnant, he certainly would have known after she died, because Yoda and Obi-Wan made it a point for her to still look pregnant in a very well attended funeral.

 

I wonder HOW they made still look preggers lol palpatine must think that would be hidden from him and that they wouldn't be of any threat since both of the kids parents died in a sense with anakin at least it obvious padme died or did she ?... lol kidding

 

Something just occoured to me. Anakin was having visions of Padame's death, Palps somehow knows this, perhaps he see's the same visions, i guess we'll never know. So if Palps saw these visions to or at least knows about them, then should'nt he know how she dies? I.E. In child birth? He does after all know of all Anakins fears, and this is how Anakin perseves her death. Then Palps could surley know she was pregnant.

Now, when Palps tells anakin Padame is dead, he does'nt know this, he tells anakin she died by his hand to send him spiriling down deeper into the darkside. This is obvious from Palps huge smile. So Palps does'nt actually know she's dead, but may assume she died in child birth as the dream depicted. So it's a very real possibility he assumes the child/children to be alive and could be (as i have always suspected) mearly keeping Anakin/Vader alive in the hope of one day luring this child to him, as his new, more powerful and less robotic appreantice.

Just a thought, sorry if it's already been mentioned, i had'nt read all the posts. :0)

 

I wonder HOW they made still look preggers

It'd be pretty easy. A woman's abdomen is still stretched for a while after giving birth, all they'd have to do is inject some liquid or foam in there, and then sew her up so it wouldn't leak out, no prob. I mean, she's dead so it's not like it's going to hurt. Just haul that uterus out of there, and get some taxidermy expert to stuff her up.

 

OR....they could have just stuffed Padme's dress, the more simple solution!