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  1. lbvmatt

    lbvmatt Jedi Youngling

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    Is there any significance to the 'cave painting' that is on the ceiling of Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru's dining area? I don't remember seeing petroglyphs in any of the other films. is this unique to tattooine?
     
  2. clone3131

    clone3131 Jedi Master star 4

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    Ahh, im pretty sure its there during the Clet years.


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  3. Lixard52

    Lixard52 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    What is a Clet year?
     
  4. Tartarus

    Tartarus Jedi Youngling star 1

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    your guess is as good as mine
     
  5. Lixard52

    Lixard52 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    The Petroglyphs are the metaphoric maze through which Luke must go if he is ever going to a.) Make it to Toshi's station for said power converters. And b.) Get to the Academy before the harvest when Uncle Owen needs him the most.
     
  6. Lixard52

    Lixard52 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Actually upon viewing the ANH commentary, Lucas says that the homesteads were based on a Tunisian sity that was primarily set up underground so it's conceivable that people had been living in these homesteads for hundreds of years and that ancient civilizations had lived in them. The petroglyphs could be just an ancient remnant of a lost age on tattoine...
     
  7. DarthJohnkenobi

    DarthJohnkenobi Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Or it could just be a painting, nothing more. It's possible you know?
     
  8. TwiLekJedi

    TwiLekJedi Pretty Ex-Mod star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    It's probably like our carpets or tapestry, only ceiling paintings. To look nice. I think the guys in Tunisia use it just for that :p
    It's a small hotel or something, iirc.

    Also, the Skywalker 'residence' in TPM has painted ceilings, too.

    It's probably just the human desire to decorate their homes.
     
  9. seventyard

    seventyard Jedi Youngling star 1

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    i seem to remember some rumor back in 1999 that the pattern on the lars dining room ceiling was identical to darth maul's face...

    the things people come up with when they know they've got three years until another movie. makes me wonder what we're in store for knowing we soon won't have that.
     
  10. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    The ceiling painting was actually there at that hotel or whatever they used as the ars mooisture farm.

    They just mimiced it for TPM.
     
  11. lbvmatt

    lbvmatt Jedi Youngling

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    "Or it could just be a painting, nothing more. It's possible you know? "

    I agree. It's absolutely just decoration... Just like cave paintings of men hunting bison is just decoration, but when you turn an anthropolical eye on them, they can still have meaning. the things that people use to decorate their homes say something about these people. In our case, we have to ask if the decorations say something about the people living in the homes, or if they say something about Lucas? i think it's probably both. On one hand, the artwork seems to have agricultural roots, like rows of crops. It makes sense that they would paint a sort of tribute to their livelihood... and more deeply Lucas was trying to characterize Luke's life/path as being mazelike, as was posited earlier in this thread.
     
  12. TwiLekJedi

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    Art telling something about people? Isn't that just "EU rubbish"? :p
     
  13. DarthJohnkenobi

    DarthJohnkenobi Jedi Padawan star 4

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    In our case, we have to ask if the decorations say something about the people living in the homes,,, On one hand, the artwork seems to have agricultural roots, like rows of crops. It makes sense that they would paint a sort of tribute to their livelihood

    So moisture farmers would have paintings of crops instead of water?
     
  14. lbvmatt

    lbvmatt Jedi Youngling

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    Moisture crops, yeah. Don't they work the same way as regular crops? If you know something about the intricacies of moisture farming, don't hold back, I'd love to learn about it.
     
  15. clone3131

    clone3131 Jedi Master star 4

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    Clet years = when Clet Lars lived there.


    So, they WERE there during the other films.

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  16. lrdmonarch

    lrdmonarch Jedi Youngling star 3

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    <<Is there any significance to the 'cave painting' that is on the ceiling of Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru's dining area? I don't remember seeing petroglyphs in any of the other films. is this unique to tattooine? >>

    Painted there by Shmi Skywalker when she was married to Clegg Lars. Probably something to do with the Skywalker family which we know so little about beyond Shmi.
     
  17. lbvmatt

    lbvmatt Jedi Youngling

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    'Art telling something about people? Isn't that just "EU rubbish"?'

    I'm not sure about the EU part, but it's certainly rubbish, TwiLekJedi.
     
  18. Lixard52

    Lixard52 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    RE "So moisture farmers would have paintings of crops instead of water?"

    I will have you know that any yield from any farm is known as a "crop" regardless of whether they come in rows, streams or rivulets.

    Let's try to ratchet down the haughty rhetoric gentlemen... This is after all a civilized universe.

     
  19. DarthJohnkenobi

    DarthJohnkenobi Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Moisture crops, yeah. Don't they work the same way as regular crops?

    Actually they don't. Crops are plants and they grow from a seed. Water does not grow. On Tatooine the water is collected from the atmosphere by the moisture 'vaporaters. The water is than collected from the catch basin in the 'vaporater.
     
  20. Lixard52

    Lixard52 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Water comes from a seed.
     
  21. lbvmatt

    lbvmatt Jedi Youngling

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    "Actually they don't. Crops are plants and they grow from a seed. Water does not grow. On Tatooine the water is collected from the atmosphere by the moisture 'vaporaters. The water is than collected from the catch basin in the 'vaporater."

    Cool, man. Thanks for the info, I didn?t know that; about the vaporater.

    I have assumed that on Tatooine, moisture was harvested in some sort of scenario that resembled the Earth farming I am familiar with: rows of evenly spaced machines or devices collecting moisture, (resembling plants) harvested by a larger combine type device, then measured, and packaged for sale and transport.

    But before I forget, you're not exactly correct on your definition of crop... Well maybe you are, but if you are the webster.com is wrong, because they give, among others, the following definition of crop: "the product or yield of something formed together <the ice crop>"

    Further, I?m not sure why you begrudge me the use of agricultural terminology in reference to Owens Moisture farming. Do you object to Owen and Luke?s use of the word ?harvest??
     
  22. DarthJohnkenobi

    DarthJohnkenobi Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Further, I?m not sure why you begrudge me the use of agricultural terminology in reference to Owens Moisture farming. Do you object to Owen and Luke?s use of the word ?harvest??

    Nope. The word harvesting describes an action not the crop itself.

    rows of evenly spaced machines or devices collecting moisture, (resembling plants) harvested by a larger combine type device, then measured, and packaged for sale and transport.

    That's about it. From visual evidence in both ANH and TPM there do appear to be fields of vaporaters but I don't think there are in any concise rows.

    To sum up, I don't think the paintings on the ceiling have anything to do w/moisture farming. I understand your point but I think this just happens to be a painting to make the ceiling look pretty, not any meaning to the painting itself.

    Here's something I saw on the web once. It was a site explaining that because the painting looked like Darth Maul's tattoos, it was a Sith thing put there by Obi-wan to hide Luke's presence.




     
  23. JediKnightOB1

    JediKnightOB1 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Clet years = when Clet Lars lived there?

    WTH?

    I think those were the Cleig years. But with the painting representations, it could have been twelve generations earlier when water was abundant on Tatooine.
     
  24. lbvmatt

    lbvmatt Jedi Youngling

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    Well played, DarthJohnKenobi. This has been an enjoyable exchange.
     
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