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Pre PT Release, What were your expections of Anakin SKywalker mentioned in TCT?

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  1. DarthSithLord

    DarthSithLord Jedi Master star 4

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    1) A Noble (PROUD) Jedi who was The best Pilot in the Galaxy?
    2) Like he is in the PT?
    3) Other (Your Expections of Anakin)


    Mine was.

    To me Anakin Skywalker was the best "Starfighter Pilot" in the Galaxy and one of the most Noble and skillfull Jedi Knights of his time. He wasn't whiney, wussy, or as Cocky as he appears to be in TPT. He was Respectable, Noble, Skillfull, Intellgent, True Man type Jedi, not some alittle punk.


    This is how I invisioned Anakin Skywalker before the PT was released, and I'me sure thats how most Anakin/Vader Fans are. The Anakin we all pictured from the Classic Trilogy.



    Question is....


    How did you invision Anakin Skywalker to be before The Prequal Trilogy came out?
     
  2. DamonD

    DamonD Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I think you're way too harsh to Anakin.

    I'm much happier with the Anakin we've got. Some granite-jawed 6'6" superhero that defeats every challenge with a wave of his hand and a twirl of his lightsabre would frankly bore the hell out of me.
     
  3. jabba_the_nut

    jabba_the_nut Jedi Youngling star 2

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    The Ani we ended up with isn't all bad, but I did expect/want him to be more of a stand-up guy than what we've seen in the PT, maybe a bit impatient and overeager, but nothing like Hayden's Anakin. What I got from the way Obi-Wan talked about him was: he was a great guy, the darkside can corrupt even the best of men, the training somehow went wrong, etc. The idea I get from the PT is that he just wasn't Jedi material and shouldn't have been trained in the first place.
     
  4. Darth-Serafin

    Darth-Serafin Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I imagined him much like you did DSL. And I figured his fall to the dark side to be much more tragic and unexpected.
     
  5. Leias_love_slave

    Leias_love_slave Jedi Knight star 5

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    Years ago, I used to imagine an actor named Powers Boothe playing a forty-ish Anakin.

    I expected to see Anakin and Obi-Wan as best friends, fighting side by side in the 'Clone Wars', and their friendship falling apart over a series of misunderstandings, possibly concerning the mother of Anakin's children.

    I imagined Anakin in his thirties or forties and with dark features, and very intense-looking.

    It's funny how your imagination fills in the blanks.
     
  6. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    I didn't expect him to whine quite so much, or to be so introverted and awkward, but the PT Anakin didn't fail completely and does have his moments.
     
  7. DarthLassic007

    DarthLassic007 Jedi Master star 6

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    I had always envisioned the PT differently than it turned out as.
    I thought that Episode I would start off with Anakin being older, in his mid 20's. The Clone Wars would be on going in all three movies. More Jedi Knights in starting roles. The Jedi defeating the Mandolorians in one of the battles. More Human vs. Human battles.
    Im not complaining how it turned out, just that it turned out much differently than I expected.

     
  8. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Yeah, the lack of humans vs human conflict does affect the battles in a way... (particularly the battle of naboo....the lack of humans made it less involving....by contrast, the KFC spots with the Col. and Pizza girlduring the battle of naboo were much more exciting, surprisingly...).
     
  9. mixza

    mixza Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Who are the Mandolorians, anyway? I've heard about them but I don't know who they are.
     
  10. Lt.Cmdr.Thrawn

    Lt.Cmdr.Thrawn Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    The Mandalorians are (were) an army of mercenary warriors who trained Jango Fett... he was the last of their kind, thus making Boba the VERY last one.

    They all wore the same type of armor as the Fetts, that's where the design came from.
     
  11. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Actually, Boba is not the last Mandalorian- there are others (plus the inhabitants of Mandalore itself).
     
  12. jcb231pluto

    jcb231pluto Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Well, I always pistured him as cocky. I guess I just thought the story would be about his pride causing his downfall. I didn't think he'd be a whiner, nor did I think the story would start with him quite so young. And really, it doens't make much sense for it to have done so. I imagined the PT would take place about tenty years before ANH, and end about the time of the twins birth. The Anakin and Obi Wan we saw in the OT look like they should have been in their late 60s and early fifties respectively, so they should have been in their late 40s and early thirties in these movies. But that's just what I think. I'd always figured that episode I would show Anakin's early days as a full Jedi and perhaps the beginnings of the Clone Wars, ep II would show the Clone Wars in their full glory, and ep III would show the end of the Clone Wars and Anakin's "death," plus the birth and hiding of Luke. In some areas that's what we got, but not quite the way I expected. I also thought that Anakin's fall would still be a surprise if one watched I-VI in order...I ddint' realize they were going to make it quite so blatant. I also thought maybe Leia would be kept secret sort of, such as show the twins being born but only have Luke's fate revealed or whatever...I just didn't think that the twists of the OT would be revealed beforehand when you watched the series in order.
     
  13. MatthewZ

    MatthewZ Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I never thought too much about it until leading up to TPM. When I found out he'd be 10 it made sense to me. If the saga is about Anakin you need the complete story arc. A good person who sacrifices himself for other, the most iconic villian of all time, then a father who sacrifices himself for his son.

    I have no problems w/ the PT Anakin. He's a powerful Jedi, but flawed. And that flaw will lead to his downfall.
     
  14. DarthLazious

    DarthLazious Jedi Youngling star 4

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    I thought Anakin was gonna be around Lukes age in TPM and The Clone Wars were gonna take place in all three Prequel movies.
    But I am happy with the storyline.
    I like Haydens Anakin more then Jakes Anakin.
     
  15. Rebel Scumb

    Rebel Scumb Jedi Knight star 6

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    I imagined him being exactly like Luke. I also imagined him being a bit older then he is in these films.

    Most importantly I thought Obi-wan would be the reckless rule breaker and Anakin the straightlaced by the book guy constantly in need of disipline and structured that his rebelious master can't/won't provide for him, especially since he's the one who ultimately becomes a big facist. I also pictured him and Obi-wan being more like brothers then father/son
     
  16. DamonD

    DamonD Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I imagined him being exactly like Luke.

    Considering the amount of 'whiny' insults thrown at Luke over the decades since ANH came out, I think Anakin is doing well here ;) Plus he'll have Super Shaggy Hairdo Power as well, soon.

     
  17. LukeJim

    LukeJim Jedi Youngling star 2

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    The main problem with the PT anakin, is hes far too weak and isnt excaclty a hero, and a "FALL FROM GRACE" shouldve been something giant and meaingful, as meaningful if say Luke DID turn to the darkside in ROTJ, imagine how that wouldve been, Anakin turning aint gonna bother too many pp, coz hes not anything special in the PT and we dont really give a rats arse about him, and hes far too young, IMO TPM shouldve been shown as the first 10 mins of ep1, ep2s events shouldve happend instead, godfather 2 did it the right way.
     
  18. Indigo_Jade

    Indigo_Jade Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I have to agree with most points being brought up here; I imagined Anakin as a noble, honorable and older person, and that him and Obi-Wan were very good friends, at the least. Not the "teen angst" that we have seen so far.

    And I have to agree; nothing about Anakin so far has really made his eventual fall to the Darkside "tragic" or heartbreaking. Maybe this is because we know that is what is going to happen eventually anyways, but I really don't have a whole lot of empathy for the current Anakin. Not to say that Hayden has done a bad job, it's just that as a character, Anakin doesn't garner the same compassion from me that Luke did.

    If Luke fell to the Darkside, it would have been earth shattering in a "movie" sense, as he was the cornerstone of the Rebellion and one of the more important figures. If Anakin falls, "movie" wise; so what? Eventually we know from EP IV that he is going to help wipe out the Jedi, but from our viewpoint right now, it really isn't a big deal. There are 1000s of Jedi to take his place. Dooku's fall didn't matter. And at this point, neither does Anakins.

    Basically I guess I just thought that Anakin would be more important to the Galaxy as a whole, and that he would be a respected man, both from a personal and military standpoint. In the movies, that just isn't so right now...

    Hopefully EP III will change all that... :)
     
  19. Rebel Scumb

    Rebel Scumb Jedi Knight star 6

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    even though we know that he turns to Vader, if Anakin had been more likeable and more empathetic it would of only been more tragic.

    We would watch this guy we love knowing where he is headed, futily in our minds hoping that maybe some how it wouldn't happen.

    "and isnt excaclty a hero, and a "FALL FROM GRACE" shouldve been something giant and meaingful, as meaningful if say Luke DID turn to the darkside in ROTJ, imagine how that wouldve been"

    Exactly
     
  20. Lt.Cmdr.Thrawn

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    Actually, Boba is not the last Mandalorian- there are others (plus the inhabitants of Mandalore itself).

    Crap, I forgot about Dala and Shysa.
     
  21. DarthBoba

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    Bah, hero or no, I'd say Anakin's fall is still going to be one of the most heartbreaking things we'll ever see.

    I didn't really have too many opinions of Anakin. All we really knew of him wasn't very much.

    He was a great pilot.
    He was strong in the Force.
    Luke was his son.
    And until the end of TESB, Darth Vader had betrayed and murdered him.

    IMO, this is the impression we're going to get from Anakin's turn: that his baser emotions rose up and destroyed the basically good man we're familiar with.

    The story really isn't about Anakin from a certain point of view. We'll see Anakin making bad decisions, and then we'll (at least, the five people who haven't seen the OT yet) see his son and worry for him.

    And at the same time, we'll hope Anakin can come out of the hole he's dug himself into.
     
  22. Ganwick_Trag

    Ganwick_Trag Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I had no preconceptions about Anakin before the PT.
     
  23. That_Wascally_Droid

    That_Wascally_Droid Jedi Knight star 6

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    I had only vague mental pictures of Anakin Skywalker before the PT.
    No personality traits were given to him in my mind.
    Well, from clues in the OT, I should have expected him to be a pilot, impatient, reckless, but good somewhere inside. But I didn't.
    My only perception of Anakin was a bulky man in his fourties, with an Obi-Wan haircut and beard, only darker. Not taking into consideration that he should've been considerably younger than Obi-Wan :p He was on a cliff in Obi-Wan Jedi robes swinging a blue lightsaber.
    I much more like the deep, fleshed out character George gave us with more layers than just 'whiny and angsty' that people can't seem to get over.
    I like him, because in many ways I can relate to him and see a lot of me in him. Similar as children and young adults, with similar desires but not knowing when to draw the line to achieve was is in essence a noble cause: to help those he loves. So we do get a bit of nobility there, it's just not in-your-face 'look, he's Mr. Noble' nobility which I like.
    He's a very human character with both strengths and flaws.
     
  24. HanSolo29

    HanSolo29 RPF/SWC/Fan Art Manager & Bill Pullman Connoisseur star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    I've always pictured Anakin older and less whiney than he was in TPM and AOTC. He fit more along the lines of Luke's line in ANH: "...a navigator on a spice freighter." I think it would have been more interesting if the Jedi came across him in his 20s while he was working within the confines of a freighter. With these settings, he would have also been able to learn the art of piloting fairly easy.

    That's my take on it anyway...
     
  25. -E-

    -E- Jedi Master star 3

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    I always saw him as attractive (he had to be, for the contrast), physical, and ...vulnerable; he had to be.
    I think a lot of females picked up on something in Ep.II that others missed - he's already creepy. Hayden played him as a stalker. The fireplace scene freaked us out; someone actually shouted in the theater,"Run, **t**!" to Padme. That was a telling contrast to the "whinyness" in other scenes.
    Just wait for the next film. I know you don't do spoilers, but from what I read here, I bet ya'll will like it!
     
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