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Punisher - RADICAL LEFTIST COMMIE

Discussion in 'Archive: Your Jedi Council Community' started by KaineDamo, Jul 29, 2004.

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  1. KaineDamo

    KaineDamo Jedi Youngling star 5

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    I'm a big fan of the Punisher, always thought he was a cool character. But i never got into the comics really until fellow Irishman Garth Ennis started writing the comic books. Ireland's proud of ya, Garth!

    Article here

    Hate America "Superhero"?
    By Michael Lackner
    FrontPageMagazine.com | May 12, 2004


    The Punisher, Marvel Comics? avenging vigilante, has become a radical. As well as taking out organized crime kingpins and thugs, he?s now taking on U.S. Intelligence and undermining support for the War on Terrorism. The publication of these comic book polemics coincides with the April release of the feature film ?The Punisher? starring Thomas Jane and John Travolta.

    Leftist propagandizing is not new to Marvel, nor to the author of the Punisher series, Irishman Garth Ennis. Two months after September 11th, the Punisher was featured threatening the life of President George W. Bush. The story portrays the President as a slobbering belching incoherent drunk, gleefully itching to launch nuclear missiles. The Punisher breaks into the Oval Office, tosses a nine-millimeter bullet before the President and warns ominously, ?I can get in anywhere ?Nine millimeters. I?m never further away than that.? Yes, you?ve got it right ? Marvel published a threat to assassinate the President of the United States, only weeks after September 11th. Even viewed as sick humor, the tenor and timing of this piece was inexcusable.

    Michael Medved and I addressed the issue of anti-American comic book propaganda in an April 2003 white paper for the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies. Marvel is now using its most recently spotlighted icon, the Punisher, to spread the same message of self-doubt and self-hate, this time published under its new MAX (explicit content) label.



    In the new series, U.S. intelligence agents are vilified as the bad guys, selling heroin from Afghanistan to covertly finance assassination squads. Ennis shamelessly writes that ?the smack comes packed in body bags along with dead GI?s.? A CIA operative tries to convince the Punisher to ?hunt Bin Laden.? In response, the Punisher crudely spits back: ?F-ck you.? [fully spelled] None of us realized that the Punisher was actually a closet leftist until, for Garth Ennis, we hear him inarticulately condemn the War on Terrorism: ?Fighting for the people who run the world gets you stabbed in the back. You fight the wars they start and feed. You kill the monsters they create. You die from handling depleted uranium, while they get rich on oil. I?m not going back to war so Colt can sell another million M-16s. I had enough of that in Vietnam.? He then desecrates the memory of the 60,000 brave Americans whose names are carved in the black wall of the Vietnam Veterans Memorial, by stating that they bear silent witness to this twisted viewpoint.



    Marvel and Ennis don?t stop there. In a just released special one-shot story, this comic book franchise is used to denounce America?s pursuit of the War on Terrorism. In ?The Punisher ? The End? we find our hero in an America totally devastated by nuclear war caused by ? of course ? American militarism and corporate greed. We are treated to a pedantic ?Progressive? discourse by the enlightened Punisher: ?Once upon a time there was a bunch of evil f-cks. [fully spelled] Hardly anyone knew, because they were so good at keeping it quiet. But these particular evil f-cks owned the world. And they made the world a cruel and terrible place. They ran the great industries that poisoned the air. Their businesses turned whole countries into slaves. ? They made puppets out of presidents and started wars for profit. Eventually, they came to believe that there was nothing that they couldn?t do. And so one day ? inevitably ? they pushed the planet?s luck too far.?



    The Punisher explains how the end will come, ?Ten bad years. Iraq was one thing. North Korea. Even Pakistan. You shout War on Terror at the Chinese and they laugh so hard the world blows up in your fac
     
  2. wild_karrde

    wild_karrde Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    I love Punisher comics. Especially the new MAX series.
     
  3. SithApprentice11

    SithApprentice11 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

    I do NOT think it is appropereeit for a superHERO to profane langoage at THE presidant of the united stats!!!!!!!! [face_not_talking]

    Hey what though you know punisher movie IS good, that you CAN NOT DENY. :) :) :)
     
  4. wild_karrde

    wild_karrde Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    Punisher isn't a superhero, he's a serial killer.
     
  5. SithApprentice11

    SithApprentice11 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    uh yah sure whatever you say [face_not_talking]
     
  6. KaineDamo

    KaineDamo Jedi Youngling star 5

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    Exactly, karrde.
     
  7. DarthNomis

    DarthNomis Jedi Knight star 6

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    Never care for the Punisher.

    But if you want to balance the "left wing" politics of the Punisher I suggest you go and get Mike Grells' excellent "Jon Sable, Freelance" from the '80s because it was considered "right wing" propaganda when it came out by critics.

    [image=http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/sable1.jpg]


    Jon Sable really wasn't but the critics who wanted it to be said that it was, just like this guy calling the Punisher "left wing" commie.
     
  8. wild_karrde

    wild_karrde Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    Main Entry: 1se·ri·al
    Pronunciation: 'sir-E-&l
    Function: adjective
    1 : of, relating to, consisting of, or arranged in a series , rank, or row <serial order>
    2 : appearing in successive parts or numbers <a serial story>
    3 : belonging to a series maturing periodically rather than on a single date <serial bonds>
    4 : of, relating to, or being music based on a series of tones in a chosen pattern without regard for traditional tonality
    5 a : effecting a series of similar acts over a period of time <a serial killer> b : occurring in such a series <a serial murder>
    6 : relating to or being a connection in a computer system in which the bits of a byte are transmitted sequentially over a single wire -- compare PARALLEL


    He murders criminals. Over and over again. For 30 years. He is a serial killer.
     
  9. JediWarrior

    JediWarrior Jedi Knight star 6

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    Al Qaeda is a left-wing socialist party now? :confused:
     
  10. Qui Gon Jim23

    Qui Gon Jim23 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    No wonder you Irishmen keep blowing each other up.
     
  11. Qui Gon Moon

    Qui Gon Moon Jedi Master star 5

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    Normally I would consider this pure drivel but then I realized that it's just a comic book.

    [face_cowboy]QGM[face_cowboy]
     
  12. Balrog_Paradox

    Balrog_Paradox Jedi Master star 5

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    Perhaps he trying to get people to realize that, brace yourself for this, even government acencies are corruptable? :eek: Perish the thought!

    Besides, its just a Comic.
     
  13. KaineDamo

    KaineDamo Jedi Youngling star 5

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    I wouldn't say it's just a comic book.

    A fine piece of literature, yes, with a great deal of social commentary. I don't see why the guy expects people to be so shocked by this comic book. I just laughed when the article guy wrote "**** you (fully spelt)". A fully spelt curse word?? Dear god!!
     
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