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Question of colour: blue vs. green

Discussion in 'Archive: Attack of the Clones' started by Dyas_Sifo, Jan 3, 2003.

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  1. Dyas_Sifo

    Dyas_Sifo Jedi Youngling

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    I apologize if this has been talked about before(I'm sure it has in some form or another)however I shall ask anyway. Is it coincidence that the padawan, or in the case of Luke in ANH & ESB, has a BLUE lightsaber and the more experienced jedi green (Luke in ROTJ, Qui Gon, Obi Wan in AOTC)?
     
  2. LottDodd

    LottDodd Jedi Master star 4

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    Obi-wan never uses a green saber in AOTC...
     
  3. Dyas_Sifo

    Dyas_Sifo Jedi Youngling

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    You're right!! I was thinking about the arena, but he still has blue doesn't he.

    Anyway, do you think there is any significance in the colour, aside from purple for Mace?
     
  4. Darth_Goofy

    Darth_Goofy Jedi Master star 4

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    Nah, I don't think so. It probably just depends on whatever crystal they get for it. Kinda a luck of the draw thing.

    In other words, Mace is really, really lucky. ;)
     
  5. DarthWeenie

    DarthWeenie Jedi Padawan star 4

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    There certainly is an importance attached to lightsaber color.

    But, there appears to be no difference between whether someone uses green or blue. They are equal.

    However, as you know, only a sith could use red.

    Only jedi use green and blue.

    Only Mace uses purple. This is also significant, but we wont know exactly why until it is revealed in ep3. Its not simply because Sam Jackson asked for it.

    Anyways, the reason for the two different jedi colors is because GL wants his movies to LOOK a certain way.

    He devised a plotpoint which made Anikan need to use a green saber. Why? So there wouldnt be 2 blues against one red. Because GL will never have two lightsabers of the same color in one fight. Hes very careful to color coordinate things in that way.

    If there are three people in a fight, GL wants them all to have different color lightsabers. Thats just the way it is.

    Even if you look in every arena battle scene, there is rarely two sabers of the same color in the same shot. Obviously there must be some exceptions to this. But in the background, if one jedi is on the left of the screen, and one is on the right, chances are that they do not both have the same color.

    Also, Im sure you guys are all familiar with the fact that Dooku was supposed to wield Anikans blue one in addition to his red, in the fight with Yoda. There are multiple pics of this. Why was it cut? Why was it not even included in the DVD deleted scenes, at least?

    Because seeing a Sith hold a blue wouldnt fit GL's color scheme laws. We were deprived of a sweet fight sequence just for that. But thats GL.

    So the reason that jedi have two different colored lightsabers is no more than this:
    So when there are two on one fights, everyone will have their own color.
     
  6. DarthWeenie

    DarthWeenie Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Hey BTW,
    In ROTJ, Luke was supposed to have another blue saber. The only reason he didnt, is because it blended in with the background against Tatooine's blue sky in the Jabba fight. So they gave him green.

    I get the feeling that GL would have rather had all good guys have blue, and all bad guys have red, if not for that problem occuring in Tunisia. Im glad he changed.
     
  7. DamonD

    DamonD Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Yeah, the green lightsabre blades are my favourite.
     
  8. DarthWeenie

    DarthWeenie Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Perhaps there is significance to the saber color - green or blue.

    Have you guys ever heard of the "cursed blue saber" theory? It states that no blue saber can ever win a fight. It doesnt mean that green ALWAYS wins, it just means that ONLY a green could possibly defeat a red.

    It definately works so far.

    Think about it...
     
  9. Darth_Deagol

    Darth_Deagol Jedi Master star 2

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    Perhaps Mace has the purple blade because GL will have four sabers going at it at the same time in Ep III.
     
  10. DarthWeenie

    DarthWeenie Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Good point.

    So simple I wouldve never thought of it.
     
  11. DarthBoba

    DarthBoba Manager Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Weenie: Yeah. It makes sense to me: Blue, while being opposed to red, is still cold, technological. Green is not-it's 'living', as it were. And we all know how much GL likes having biology triumph over technology.
    Thoughts?
     
  12. Guy DuBlanc

    Guy DuBlanc Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Prior to AOTC, it was the theory of some that blue sabers were for apprentices, and green for "masters."

    In ANH, Ben had blue but he never achieved rank of Jedi Master.

    Luke has blue as an apprentice to Ben and Yoda, but in ROTJ he has green, representing the fact that he's become a "master" (maybe not technically but for our purposes he is).

    TPM fit this color scheme perfectly, with Master Qui-Gon (green) and apprentice Obi-Wan (blue).

    There was something to this theory I think but now with AOTC it is gone. I think Kit Fisto and Yoda got green sabers because they are green and it looks better.

     
  13. qui-gon-kim

    qui-gon-kim Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    He devised a plotpoint which made Anikan need to use a green saber. Why? So there wouldnt be 2 blues against one red. Because GL will never have two lightsabers of the same color in one fight. Hes very careful to color coordinate things in that way.

    Yeah, notice that Anakin and Obi-Wan never had their original blue sabers ignited at the same time. I wonder why Lucas didn't just give Obi-Wan Qui-Gon's green saber as a sign of respect to his fallen master (as described in Rogue Planet). After all, Luke's second lightsaber is almost identical to Obi-Wan's ANH saber.
     
  14. Otis_Frampton

    Otis_Frampton LFL Artist, Moderator Emeritus star 4 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Lucas most likely had Obi-Wan use blue because that's his consistent lightsaber color, and Obi-Wan is a "stay the course" kind of character.

    Anakin uses green, IMHO, so that we can have this:

    [image=http://www.otisframpton.com/AOTC_AniVader_3.jpg]

    . . another rhyming sequence, a nice one at that.

    -Otis

     
  15. Twelve_Motion

    Twelve_Motion Jedi Padawan star 4

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    George has said that good guys have green and blue, and the sith have red. I don't think the colours have some sort of "hidden" significance, with the exception of Mace.

    The only way to explain Mace Windu's colour without saying, "What Sam Jackson wants, Sam Jackson gets, is so that their is an importance of sorts with Mace Windu, or something to make him appear different than the average joe (jedi).

    edit: agreed Otis!
     
  16. Otis_Frampton

    Otis_Frampton LFL Artist, Moderator Emeritus star 4 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I do find it interesting, though, that the three primary lightsaber colors are also the three Additive Primary Colors:

    [image=http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/icm/addclrs.gif]

    "Additive Primary Colors
    The additive method of color mixing is based on the assumption that you start with black. That is, if there are no other colors present (the image is black) and you add red, the image appears red. If you then add blue, the image appears magenta."

    Curious.

    -Otis

     
  17. dehrian

    dehrian Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    There are actually reasons for the different color blades, but they have nothing to do with Jedi or plot or character:

    Luke got a green saber in ROTJ because the effects guys were having trouble getting the blue blade to show up against the blue Tatooine sky. This may have been the same reason Qui-Gon got a green saber in TPM: in both cases, they had to use their lightsaber against a bright blue sky.

    So, unless you're using a lightsaber under a bright blue sky, you get a blue lightsaber.

    Mace had a purple one because Sam specifically asked for it.

    So the colors have nothing to do with rank or character. It's all decided in post production according to what works best effects wise, or the actor's preference, as the case may be.
     
  18. OceanPacific

    OceanPacific Jedi Youngling star 1

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    In ANH, wasn't the light saber used by Luke and Obi Wan white?

    Also -- why doesn't anyone bleed after being slashed by a light saber? Does it automatically cauterize the cut? People get their hands, heads, arms cut off, and not a drop of blood. Why?
     
  19. weezyslob

    weezyslob Jedi Youngling star 3

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    No, it was blue, and yes it seems to automatically cauterize the wound.
     
  20. CBryMaster

    CBryMaster Jedi Youngling

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    Blue or green huh? I personly like the sith red blade. Also why just limit the sabres to blue or green or red "except Mace's purple blade" why not yellow pink or orange
     
  21. CBryMaster

    CBryMaster Jedi Youngling

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    No Offense Dyas Sifo but Luke's blade in ANH and EBS looked kind of white to me.
     
  22. Lars_Muul

    Lars_Muul Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    It was white in ANH because of the crappy FX. However, in TESB it was all blue!

    Nice theory about a 4-saber duel in EpIII! :cool:
     
  23. qui-gon-kim

    qui-gon-kim Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Yes, also when Luke shoots the blast doors in ANH after Ben is killed, Vader's saber also appears to look white!

    The Saber effects in ANH look really crappy. I hope Lucas fixes this in the Archival Edition.
     
  24. nickhoser

    nickhoser Jedi Youngling

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    Try figuring out why in the Geonosis arena battle Ki-adi Mundi's blade swithes back and forth between blue and green and maybe you will have solved the mystery of the sith.
     
  25. CBryMaster

    CBryMaster Jedi Youngling

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    I played a game where it had a guy use a yellow blade and another useing a red one
     
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