Randals Starwars theory (Clerks)

This has probably been discussed before, But I was just wondering what all you guy's thought of the 'Independent Contracters on the Death Star' scene in 'Clerks'.

I love the film and this scene in perticular, being about SW.

(If you haven't seen this Film, I highly recommend it)

 

Kevin Smith certainly has a unique take on things. I love that scene. It's so funny and cool.

GL even mentions it during the AOTC dvd commentary.

 

really, i missed that. what does he say?

 

Lucas actually botches it completely -- he thinks it's Jay and Bob discussing the contractors, and also, he's referring to the first Death Star, while Randal is referring to the second.

Still, it was absolutely awesome to hear the shout-out on the AOTC DVD. I am a huge Kevin Smith fan, so it absolutely made my day.


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I am a Kevin Smith fan and think Clerks has to be his best film. No Holliwood stars, made on a shoe string, but hillarous!!!

I'm gonna put my AOTC DVD on, what part of the film does Lucas mention it????

(Funny to hear he messed it up)

"I'M NOT EVEN SUPPOSED TO BE HERE TODAY"

 

I think it's during the Battle of Geonosis... I believe around the time Dooku gets on his bike to go to the hangar, but I could be wrong. Shortly after the time the Death Star plans make their appearance. I think.



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Clerks is great, but its not the only Kevin Smith film with Star Wars references. Dogma- Jay says (not exact quote) "I'm obi-wan kenobi, your han, and he's ******* Chewie" (somethin like that). Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back (Fairly obvious, with Mark Hamill, Carie Fisher cameos, "Blunt Saber" Battles, and of course, the title) and Mallrats, Silent Bob uses the "Jedi Mind Trick" (even thought its the force push he uses)

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All KS flicks thus far reference SW.

(The film you missed -- Chasing Amy has the immortal Star-Wars-is-racist speech.)

(You also missed a few of the references in JSBSB, but I digress.)

Finally, the line in Dogma, I believe, is: "I feel like Han Solo. And you're Chewie. And she's Ben Kenobi. And we're in that ******-up bar!"

Man, Kevin Smith dialogue just loses all its punch on family-friendly boards.


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What is Randal's theory?

 

Oh, for shame! Go rent Clerks now!

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RANDAL: Which did you like better: Jedi or The Empire Strikes Back?
DANTE: Empire.
RANDAL: Blasphemy.
DANTE: Empire had the better ending: Luke gets his hand cut off, and finds out Vader's his father; Han gets frozen and taken away by Boba Fett. It ends on such a down note. And that's life-a series of down endings. All Jedi had was a bunch of Muppets.
RANDAL: There was something else going on in Jedi. I never noticed it until today.
DANTE: What's that?
RANDAL: All right, Vader's boss...
DANTE: The Emperor.
RANDAL: Right, the Emperor. Now the Emperor is kind of a spiritual figure, yes?
DANTE: How do you mean?
RANDAL: Well, he's like the pope for the dark side of the Force. He's a holy man; a shaman, kind of, albeit an evil one.
DANTE: I guess.
RANDAL: Now, he's in charge of the Empire. The Imperial government is under his control. And the entire galaxy is under Imperial rule.
DANTE: Yeah.
RANDAL: Then wouldn't that logically mean that it's a theocracy? If the head of the Empire is a priest of some sort, then it stands to reason that the government is therefore one based on religion.
DANTE: It would stand to reason, yes.
RANDAL: Hence, the Empire was a fascist theocracy, and the rebel forces were therefore battling religious persecution.
DANTE: More or less.
RANDAL: The only problem is that at no point in the series did I ever hear Leia or any of the rebels declare a particular religious belief.
DANTE: I think they were Catholics.
BLUE COLLAR MAN: Are you open?
DANTE: Yeah. Come in.
RANDAL: You know what else I noticed in Jedi?
DANTE: There's more?
RANDAL: So they build another Death Star, right?
DANTE: Yeah.
RANDAL: Now the first one they built was completed and fully operational before the Rebels destroyed it.
DANTE: Luke blew it up. Give credit where it's due.
RANDAL: And the second one was still being built when they blew it up.
DANTE: Compliments of Lando Calrissian.
RANDAL: Something just never sat right with me the second time they destroyed it. I could never put my finger on it-something just wasn't right.
DANTE: And you figured it out?
RANDAL: Well, the thing is, the first Death Star was manned by the Imperial army-storm troopers, dignitaries- the only people onboard were Imperials.
DANTE: Basically.
RANDAL: So when they blew it up, no prob. Evil is punished.
DANTE: And the second time around...?
RANDAL: The second time around, it wasn't even finished yet. They were still under construction.
DANTE: So?
RANDAL: A construction job of that magnitude would require a helluva lot more manpower than the Imperial army had to offer. I'll bet there were independent contractors working on that thing: plumbers, aluminum siders, roofers.
DANTE: Not just Imperials, is what you're getting at.
RANDAL: Exactly. In order to get it built quickly and quietly they'd hire anybody who could do the job. Do you think the average storm trooper knows how to install a toilet main?
DANTE: All they know is killing and white uniforms.
RANDAL: All right, so even if independent contractors are working on the Death Star, why are you uneasy with its destruction?
DANTE: All those innocent contractors hired to do a job were killed-casualties of a war they had nothing to do with.
RANDAL: All right, look-you're a roofer, and some juicy government contract comes your way; you got the wife and kids and the two-story in suburbia-this is a government contract, which means all sorts of benefits. All of a sudden these left-wing militants blast you with lasers and wipe out everyone within a three-mile radius. You didn't ask for that. You have no personal politics. You're just trying to scrape out a living.
BLUE COLLAR MAN: Excuse me. I don't mean to interrupt, but what were you talking about?
RANDAL: The ending of Return of the Jedi.
DANTE: My friend is trying to convince me that any contractors working on the uncompleted Death Star were innocent victims when the space station was destroyed by the rebels.
BLUE COLLAR MAN: We

 

I love that scene.

I've never stopped thinking about that since.

 

Adambertocci,


Great scene, But I have never seen the bit you put in there about religon. Any version I have seen, Randal just talks about the Contracters and destruction of the death star. Where did you get this script from????

 

I believe I got it from the shooting script, not a transcript of the movie.


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I have to let this out... I don't like Kevin Smith's movies at all. I guess you've got to give the guy a little credit for at least being a Star Wars fan, but beyond that...

 

Jabba, have you seen Clerks?

 

KEVIN SMITH IS GOD!!! THE NEW JERSEY CHRONICLES ARE THE BEST!! GREEN ARROW IS THE BEST!!!! DAREDEVIL (comic, not the movie) IS THE BEST!!!!

KEVIN SMITH AND FRANK MILLAR RULE!!!

 

The religion speech was a deleted scene in Dogma. Matt Damon was telling J&SB about it.
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I've seen Clerks, but now everyone can figure out what the theory is.

As far as the theory goes, it does not hold weight with me. If anything they were casulties of war and the Rebels could not afford to wait so they can get outta the way.