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Remastered Clone Wars series ?

Discussion in 'Star Wars TV- Completed Shows' started by fett 4, Aug 23, 2021.

  1. fett 4

    fett 4 Chosen One star 5

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    Just wondered if was possible TCW series could be remastered like old computer games for the modern era. With the quality in Animation far superior now than in 2008, I wondered if they could re-release TCW series with updated Animation ?
    Is this doable ?
     
  2. silentfault

    silentfault Jedi Knight star 2

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    Probably not doable, they would have to create all these episodes from scratch then, with updated models, environments, lighting, animation, etc. - they would have to effectively reshoot them altogether and basically make a new show.
    Frankly, I wouldn't want them to. There is a certain charm to it. I quite enjoy the first season of TCW, and despite some of it looking pretty rough at times(Downfall of a Droid comes to mind, it was like the first or second episode in production order, they made it like in 2006 or 2007), it was still quite impressive for TV at the time. And how else would you appreciate the way the show constantly kept improving? On the contrary, it's quite interesting to watch how they handled the limitations and worked their way around it. It's all part of SW animation history and legacy now, I wouldn't want them to touch or alter it in any way, tbh. And starting with season 2 and onwards, it looked great and still holds up today. It doesn't need a remaster, in my opinion.
     
  3. Seerow

    Seerow Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I can get behind remastering some episodes like The Citadel Arc and maybe the S2 Mandalorian arc really just for updated animation. It would be cool to see Phase One clones in the update animation. Maybe stories could be done in alternate POVs. But really the animation is fine. Seasons 1, 2, and 3 are great as they are.
     
  4. fett 4

    fett 4 Chosen One star 5

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    So it's not simply just a case of updating the graphics. Fair enough
     
  5. darkspine10

    darkspine10 Chosen One star 8

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    I'd much rather they just finish the remaining episodes that were never completed. Or, to be a tad more reasonable, finish up Utapau, Bane/Boba, and the first half of Dark Disciple, then do Son of Dathomir and DD part 2. That would be enough for a condensed run, while also saving on a lot work with most of the eps, which were already at animatic level. It would fill most of the gaps that are still missing from the series narrative wise. A lot of 'Season 8' stories would be nice, but also would need more script work, full animation planning, as well as trying to fit in with the completed Siege of Mandalore (Sith Shrine for instance would be very tricky to make work with Ahsoka's situation).

    You could do Bad Batch on Kasyyyk too I guess, that has partial animatics, but they already have their own show, so it would be tough to see what it would bring to the table (though in a perfect world I'd want it of course :p).

    Disney can already do around 20 episodes a year to the quality level of Bad Batch (the show), so diverting a chunk of that into some more TCW would be nice. A man can always hope ;)

    As for remastering the early eps? Nah, they already look fine for the most part, at least a short way into Season 1. Some of the very earliest like Downfall of a Droid have their quirks, but I still think they look fine enough as it is. Sure, it'd be nice to have every ep look as good as Bad Batch, but it's just not realistic to invest all that time and effort to something that already looks decent to my eyes. It wouldn't be very profitable for Disney, compared to something new. There'd be more interest in seeing new stories than the ones we've already seen, and with mostly acceptable visuals (Trespass in Season 1 of TCW for instance has amazing cloth and snow animation, as one example).
     
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  6. fett 4

    fett 4 Chosen One star 5

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    I agree with those choices. Though I'm not fussed if I never see the Bad Batch again, I find them very bland.
    They should've done the Crystal Crisis arc for S7 definitely.
     
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  7. Seerow

    Seerow Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Seeing what The Bad Batch did with Cad Bane makes me believe some of the unfinished arcs are canon and happened off-screen. The Book of Boba Fett maybe half anthology which is where the "book" part of the title comes from so that unfinished arc may get real screentime there. Likewise, the Kasyyyk arc could be treated as an offscreen event if The Bad Batch visits Kasyyyk or Wookies being enslaved. Crystal Crisis would make the most sense to be completed as a special. It's only a matter of time before Maul gets a show. Son of Dathomir and even some of Dark Disciple could be adapted to that. I feel like there are exactly 12 episodes worth of content for something there.
     
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  8. Alexrd

    Alexrd Chosen One star 6

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    It doesn't work like that. Remastering video is one thing, and is not the same as in a video game. For what you want, they would need to do it all over again. In other words, they would need to remake it.

    Besides, other than an handful of episodes early in the production, the animation quality of the series still holds up perfectly fine.
     
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  9. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    No it would never happen nor do I need to
     
  10. Darth Baga

    Darth Baga Jedi Knight star 2

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    I'd much prefer it if Disney used the resources to do this. Or alternatively, started work on a new show set between The Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones.
     
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  11. vong333

    vong333 Force Ghost star 5

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    I don't mind new episodes of TCW like a lost mission 2 or something like that, but remastering and remaking and stuff like that not so much. Let's move forward with new stuff.
     
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  12. Clone Boi Crash

    Clone Boi Crash Jedi Youngling

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    If they did do it, why not focus on the CIS side of things? Portray the CIS as the good guys, and showcase their side of the war. The Clone Wars, like all wars, is not just about one side.
     
  13. Darth Dnej

    Darth Dnej Jedi Master star 4

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    Apparently TCW was about a million an episode, even in the first season. The movie plus all 7 seasons probably cost around $150 million or more (not taking inflation into account).
    It's not feasible at all to recreate some or almost all of the seasons. It's a ton of money and animation labor. If George never sold Lucasfilm, I suppose he could still throw as much money at it as he wants. Disney/Lucasfilm obviously want a return on investment.
     
  14. ZodaEX

    ZodaEX Jedi Master star 1

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    Rendering the older episodes in 4k doesn't cost as much as you think. Hell I could do it myself on my Nvidia video card in less than two months. This would be essentially free for Lucasfilm since I'd be paying for the hardware and electricity myself. They'd just need to supply me the project files which would cost them less than 1,000 dollars for sure seeing as I'd be willing to drive over and pick them up myself.
     
  15. TCF-1138

    TCF-1138 Anthology/Fan Films/NSA Mod & Ewok Enthusiast star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Yes, upscaling to 4K is a relatively simple task, though it might still come with some issues. Remastering it with updated visuals is clearly more complicated than that.
     
  16. Darth Baga

    Darth Baga Jedi Knight star 2

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    Come to think of it, I wouldn't mind seeing them remaster episodes from the 2003 series in TCW style. I'm sure a lot of fans would love that.
     
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  17. TCF-1138

    TCF-1138 Anthology/Fan Films/NSA Mod & Ewok Enthusiast star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Rubbing even more salt in Tartakovsky's wounds. He's been rather bitter about them using his designs in TCW without crediting him.
     
  18. Ahsoka's Tano

    Ahsoka's Tano Force Ghost star 7

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    Which designs were his?
     
  19. Darth Baga

    Darth Baga Jedi Knight star 2

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    Not entirely sure what you mean. What designs? I wasn't aware that he was upset about TCW.

    But I was talking about adapting some of the arcs in that show like Anakin's knighting. Sort of as a tribute and a homage. Of course I think they should credit Tartakovsky for his original stoties. Heck, it would be awesome if they could get him on board in some way.
     
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  20. ZodaEX

    ZodaEX Jedi Master star 1

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    I said rendering, not upscaling. Re-read my post and try again...
     
  21. TCF-1138

    TCF-1138 Anthology/Fan Films/NSA Mod & Ewok Enthusiast star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    OK then, updating the older episodes to a modern animation standard -- which is what this thread is about -- is a lot more complicated than re-rendering old project files in a higher resolution. Happy?