Republic Starfighters

Does anyone know what the Republic military uses for starfighter to starfighter combat? I know about the Jedi fighters, but there have been some mentions about fighters in action where there weren't any Jedi, like in Shatterpoint.
There's also been mention of a type of fighter called a TIE, Twin Ion Engine, that might be in development for the clones, but aren't ready yet... I wonder where that will go...

 

IIRC there is some kind of Lambda-like starfighter appearing in the Clone Wars cartoon.

 

Any pictures yet?

 

We have the "Cord" class fighters, mentioned in Crossfire.

 

the lambda like fighter seen in the cartoons has 3 folding wings/fins that all end up pointing downward in one mode (hover/park mode).. the dorsal fin-wing flips around the back of the craft to the downward position.

 

You have to realize that they're just inventing fighters, they havn't had any for 1000 years!

 

Actually there have been quite a few different fighters existing in the republic before TPM, and AOTC, E.A.S.(prototype X-wing). Z-95 headhunters, naboo fighters, bombers, Orbitblade 2000, etc, etc.

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Yes they have. The Jedi used to have a starfighter corps. They had gunboats. Jedi Justice Cruisers . They were a lot more formidable than The aethersprites.

They also had some powerful fighters in the Star Hyperspace War.

 

just because the republic doesn't have a standing navy of its own doesn't mean that they would have to invent fighters from scratch. they could easily use plans from the local planetary fleets of any member world. Since the republic had its own fleet in the short period of the Stark Hyperspace War, they could have based their Clone Wars era ships off of that, at least..

also, Naboo was a planet of peace and yet they had starfighters in an era of peace.

 

Keep in mind that the 'Jedi Starfighter' we see in Episode 2 is really a Delta 7 Aethersprite. This starfighter is technically a light interceptor. The numeral 7 is a clue that six prior models exist. The Delta 7 model was introduced a few months prior to the Battle of Geonosis. Hints are we will see a Delta 8 model by the time of Episode 3. Of course the 'Sie-TIE' starfighter will eclipse the Aethersprite. Most likely the 'Sie-TIE' is the fighter being mass produced for the clone army pilots. Other starfighters used on a regular basis by the Old Republic are Judicial Lancets, Galan class fighters, and Z-95 Headhunters.

 

"The numeral 7 is a clue that six prior models exist."

So there were actually 16 models of the F series jets, F-16, F-15, F-14, to F-1? If so can someone send me to a link of pictures of each model?

This also means that the R-22 "Spearhead" (nicknamed A-wing by it's pilots), had 21 previous R series models?

It should also be noted that there were actually 3 models of the Delta 7, a standard model, one with experimental "Fight Mode"(Dark Horse/TRU #1 "Full of Surprises", Hasbro's Jedi Starfighter), and one with a experimental onboard-hyperdrive(Holonet News Network, Lucasart's Jedi Starfighter).

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It may include design models I think who never see actual production

 

That's very possible, IIRC, Adi Gallia tested all the earlier prototype models of the Jedi Starfighter.

Here is the holonete news article notice how it refrences the Delta 7 with the onboard hyperdrive seen in Jedi Starfighter game;

New Jedi Starfighter Unveiled


KUAT NODE - In a closed testing range at the Kuat Drive Yards, Jedi and Republic officials were on hand to inspect the performance of the newly modified Delta-7 Aethersprite light interceptor, the latest instrument of peace in the Jedi arsenal.


(L to R) Jedi Aayla Secura, Senator Risi Lenoan and Jedi Adi Gallia commemorate new starfighter.


Project Engineer Lead Walex Blissex, Kuati Senator Risi Lenoan, and Jedi representatives Adi Gallia and Aayla Secura lauded the small interceptor's performance under controlled conditions.

"Kuat Drive Yards has a proud heritage of serving the Republic, and the new Delta-7s we have specifically prepared for the Jedi order will continue that tradition," said Senator Lenoan. Performing an ancient Kuati nautical tradition, Senator Lenoan used a gilded blade to cut a symbolic tether attached to the prototype's landing gear. In a similar show of protocol, Gallia and Secura extended lit lightsabers in salute to the Kuati dignitaries.

"She is a remarkable vessel," said Blissex. "With the engineering breakthroughs we tackled developing her, she's just the start. She's a real sign of things to come."

At eight meters in length, with a cross-span of under four meters, the Delta-7 would ordinarily be too small to support hyperspace travel. The Jedi starfighter now features a built-in astromech to provide damage control, power regulation, and nav-computer capability. The standard upgrade includes docking clamps and data-feeds to a separate hyperdrive booster ring, subcontracted to TransGalMeg Industries, Inc. of the Rayter sector.

A Delta-7 advanced model, whose specifications remain classified, has been confirmed to carry an onboard hyperdrive and does not require the booster ring. It is unknown what percentage of the Jedi starfighter fleet will consist of Delta-7 advanced.

Following the successful test, the starfighter is now operational, and shipments of the craft are being delivered to the Jedi Temple at Coruscant, and the Jedi Training Center on Kamparas.

Specifications
Kuat Systems Engineering Delta-7 Aethersprite
Dimensions: 8 meters x 3.92 meters x 1.44 meters
Maximum Atmospheric Speed: 12,000 kph
Maximum Linear Acceleration: 5,000 G
Cargo Capacity: 60 kg or 0.03 m3
Crew: 1 pilot; 1 astromech
Armament: 2 dual laser cannons (standard)

 

I see . . .

If the full designation is Delta 7 Athersprite, then we shouldn't be calling it Delta. It should be the Athersprite.

After all, we don't say T-65 each time, we say X-wing.

Oh bugger it! I'm going to start drinking . . .

 

Ya, but many sources already call it "Delta-7", I'm assuming because it has less letters, and is easier to type than "Aethersprite", or "Jedi Starfighter"

On earth I see people call the F-16 Fighting Falcon, the F-16, even though it's name is also the "Fighting Falcon", probably because F-16 is much easier to type.

It's largely inconsequential with the X-wing, because T-65, and X-wing, are not much different to type with only 2 extra letter difference.

 

HNN also alluded to the TIE fighter, and I think that there was some mention in Defence of Kamino of a star fighter that was in developement for the clones to use.

 

"HNN also alluded to the TIE fighter"

Well, the "engine" itself was in development IIRC.

 

Val, Jedi Quest has made mention of the Delta-6 Athersprite, which was used both by the Jedi and the rest of the galaxy, so there was at least one pre-7 Delta that was widely used. (According to TimeTales, the Delta-6 also appeared in Star Wars Adventures, but that may just be a typo.)

The Republic probably also used the Y-Wing. Djinn Altis's Jedi did.

TC

 

So there were actually 16 models of the F series jets, F-16, F-15, F-14, to F-1? If so can someone send me to a link of pictures of each model?

This might be of some help, Valiento. It's the USAF Museum's archive on fighters. You'll have to scroll down from the F-80 Shooting Star through thevarious Century series fighters to reach the note below.

NOTE: On 18 September 1962, the USAF and US Navy aircraft designation systems were combined and simplified, resulting in the redesignation of 11 aircraft. (F-1 to F-11) US Navy aircraft listed for continuity only. No information will be presented.

Of course, like it says, it doesn't provide info on Navy aircraft. Nor does it provide images prior to the F-4 Phantom II. It does say that there was no F-13. Perhaps for superstitious reasons.

As for pictures, hows this:

North American F-1 (Navy FJ)

McDonnell F-2 (Navy F2H Banshee)

McDonnell F-3 (Navy F3H)

[image=http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/research/fighter/f4c-1.jpg]McDonnell Douglas F-4C Phantom II

[image=http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/research/fighter/f5a-3.jpg][image=http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/research/fighter/f5b-3.jpg]Northrop YF-5A and F-5B Freedom Fighter

[image=http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/research/fighter/f5e-5.jpg]Northrop F-5 Tiger II

Douglas F-6 (Navy F4D)

Convair YF-7A (Navy YF2Y-1)

LTV F-8 (Navy F8U)

Grumman F-9 (Navy F9F Panther)

Douglas F-10 (Navy F3D)

Grumman F-11 (Navy F11F)

[image=http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/research/fighter/yf12-8.jpg]Lockheed YF-12 (No folks, this is not the SR-71 Blackbird. It's the fighter precurssor to the Blackbird and was developed alongside the CIA funded A-12, which also looks the same)

No F-13 in either the USAF or the US Navy

[image=http://www.military.cz/usa/air/in_service/aircraft/f14/pics2/f14topdes.jpg]GrummanF-14 Tomcat

[image=http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/research/fighter/f15c-8.jpg]McDonnell Douglas F-15 Eagle (Pic is actually F-15C since I didn't like any of the pics before that one)

[image=http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/research/fighter/f16a-12.jpg]General Dynamics F-16 Fighting Flacon

Since you basically listed the F-1 through F-16, I won't continue on to the F-17 through F-23.

 

Wow, reminds me of the various differences in the various Z-95 designs we've seen.

Also the earlier ones don't seem to look much like prototypes of later models, but different companies original designs.

Oh, and go ahead and list the f-17 through f-23.

 

I really do like the Delta 7 Aethersprite.

(dreamy look with big smile)

According to spy reports an Aethersprite with a TIE's ball cockpit exists. How can this be? Aethersprites are built by Kuat. TIE series craft are built by Sienar. Kuat and Sienar are rival companies. My guess is this hybrid craft will be a second 'Ugly' built by Anakin and not a Delta 8 model or the 'Sie-TIE'. The first'Ugly'being the craft used by Anakin in the Clone Wars cartoon series.

 

Where would the TIE cockpit fit?

 

it might just be using the engines as part of the hybrid. Personally, I think that that idea is pretty dumb-- anakin's starfighter looks like crap.

The TIE engine was announced on HNN, but in Defence of Kamino, there was a reference to starfighters being built for the clones. Put the two together, and you have a TIE fighter. The HNN article even explains the reasoning behind the lack of shields and life support-- it claimed that it would make the fighter too costly.

 

Will the old skool TIEs used by the clones look like this:

[image=http://www.darkblade.freeserve.co.uk/coreimages/craftimages/republictie.jpg]

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