ST Rey & Kylo 'force child' theory, what do we think?

Whatever your opinion is of the Last Jedi it’s widely accepted that the strongest part of the movie is the force connection and relationship dynamic between Ben and Rey.
The throne room scene in particular left me wanting to punch the air in triumph at the unification and balance of the light and dark sides of the force and the subsequent fall out between our two protagonists was agonising to watch and lit with emotion.

However in retrospect the scene that I think that will ultimately become the most poignant between the two takes place in the hut on ach-to where the duo finally find a point of mutual respect, trust and understanding as they connect in a profound manner.

There’s smouldering romantic tension as Rey and Ben drop the facades and rigid ideological standpoints set out in their previous encounters and allow themselves to be empathetic with each others struggles and show a vulnerability with each other that their trepidation in touching suggests is unique to their relationship.

interestingly it’s Luke entering the hut that breaks the connection between Ben and Rey. Luke seems highly concerned at this unification however it’s never really explained exactly why Luke reacts in such an extreme manner at what appears at face value to be an innocent moment of connection between two lost souls. I believe that Luke’s concern and corresponding reaction is born from the sexual subtext to this scene.

Speaking about the scene in question Mark Hamill described this moment as “erotic” – Is it possible that Luke was walking in on an intimate moment between the two?

Rian Johnson has revealed that while discussing motivation for the scene Adam Driver asked if Ben had “ever even kissed a girl” this question only serves to reinforce the idea that maybe something bigger was happening than it first appears to be on the surface of things.
In addition to these comments Johnson has also stated that the scene is "the closest thing we'll get to a sex scene in a 'Star Wars' movie."

So if Rey and Ben have done the Jedi equivalent of the no pants dance what does that mean? Is Rey pregnant? Well, possibly?
There is precedent for immaculate conception in the Skywalker lineage. There is very little canonical explanation for the conception of Anakin Skywalker, all we really know is what Shimi herself tells us that “there is no father, I carried him, I gave birth to him, I raised him. I can’t explain what happened”

It's reported that JJ Abrams has stated that the final chapter of the Skywalker saga will “unite the three trilogies together”
Historically George Lucas has made comment about Star Wars working like a “rhyme” describing the repeating beats like “poetry” and alluding to the constant foreshadowing laid out in the saga as being a key to the story itself.

Undoubtedly there will be a plethora of both micro and macro connections in episode nine that string together all three trilogies and offer brilliant fan service but how poetic would it be for the saga to both open and close with an immaculate conception? A rhythmic reframe between the first and last line of the Skywalker saga?

 

I like the idea - but pretty sure they won't go there. I like the idea because I love the fairy tale Beauty and the Beast and Jane Austen's Pride and Prejudice (Wuthering Heights, Jane Eyre, etc.). I think Reylo builds on those archetypes. The prickly, sexual tension between the characters is compelling as is the power of redemptive love/passion. As much as I love Adam Driver's Ben Solo, I think he needs to die a very sad, heart-breaking death in order for the Skywalker saga to end in a way that feels emotionally satisfying. I also don't think Rey should go there. She needs to be Katniss Everdeen not the milquetoast Twilight twinky.

 

I'm with you on the tragic death stuff, failing that maybe some kind of situation where he banishes himself and everyone thinks he's dead? Disconnects from the force and becomes a smuggler in the unknown regions maybe? Something more Solo than Skywalker.

For the record the whole 'force baby' thing isn't my preference but it is an interesting idea, especially with people talking of a 'controversial macguffin'

 

So a force baby as a byproduct of forced intimacy with Kylo that Rey never signed up to have or risk having, non-consensually bonding her to Kylo again for life? Man the you-know-what parallels would be exploding out of this trilogy if that happened. Sounds a lot like something LF would consider. I voted no even though I don’t think it’s impossible. More like heavily implausible.

 

This reminds me of those hilarious theories back when ROTS came out that Luke and Leia were going to be test tube babies.

 

No.

 

I don't think that will happen...
The only reason I could find for that would be to make up some way to continue the blood line, without actually having Kylo have a child with someone (the "normal" way) or make Rey a Skywalker, and apparently maintaining the bloodline is not a priority to the film makers, so...

 

No hell no. Nuff said.

 

Yeah, its just his sweet little innocent nephew. He never hurt anyone and respect his father and uncle. Very good student also.

As for the question, its a no for me.

 

It’s not going to happen. Not even close.

 

uh,no.The darkside is a corruption of the force aka cancer.

 

I bloody hope not.

 

No baby or a wanted one, please! I think Adam asked Rian if Kylo had ever kissed a girl only because he needed to know how virgin he was.

I’m personally done with the immaculate conceptions: we have Virgin Mary and Schmi, that’s more than enough.

 

Either Rey would have had involuntary sex with Kylo (that's called rape) or voluntary meaning that she had willful sex with a murderer. There's controversy and then there's CONTROVERSY. The ramifications would be incredible, especially when you consider that Disney is about to open a part of their kid-centered theme park.

 

No thanks.

 

It's a very romantic moment, but nothing more. The key scene there is what Rey saw and how it differs from what Kylo saw. Only one can be right.

 

In the show Xena, Xena was impregnated by her former archenemy Callisto who was now an angel (returned to the light, so to speak). Callisto as an arch-enemy had murdered Xena's child to get revenge on Xena for killing her parents. Angel Callisto wanted to give Xena something back for all she'd taken from her, so she gave Xena a child. But oh it goes beyond that as she actually reincarnated *herself* into Xena's womb (without asking permission I might add!). And then reincarnated Callisto grew into an evil adult (as Xena had been frozen in an ice cave for her entire life, not there to raise her) leaving Xena to face the prospect that she might have to kill her own daughter. Xena prayed for higher powers to save her daughter because she could not save her, and the higher powers answered, redeeming her daughter through spiritual grace (this was because said daughter had an important destiny as a messiah of sorts). Such was the remarkably twisted hero/villain drama in the show Xena, which I found most amusing. Callisto was the villain who just can't "die" as she kept coming back over and over and even when she found her way back to "the light," she managed to inadvertently bring about another dark chapter.

As you can imagine, after this show no magical baby plot can ever be more, well, delightfully convoluted. So one hand touch resulting in pregnancy (conceived through the Force) seems downright simple in comparison.

I certainly do no believe there will be a magical Force baby between Rey and Kylo and not only because magical baby plots are generally not my cup of tea. I just cannot fathom them going here. I just do not see it as this kind of story.

Although it would be hilarious. What if Temiriblagg1 had it all wrong. It was really a dramatic Rey giving birth scene, and she needs Force ghost Luke's help because he's her father! It would really be all these Skywalkers as one magically produce a Force baby in ways hinting at incest (why? I am not sure since it seems like a total divergence... I mean Rey's story would then not be about how she will bring balance to the Force but how she conceived Force Baby who will do it in 20 years?).

Force Baby can be named The Skywalker. More powerful than all the other Skywalkers combined, including Anakin, the birth of Force Baby is essentially the birth of GFFA God, ushering in a new era of monotheism for the galaxy! For those who would abuse the Force, The Skywalker will know, and rain down upon them the fire and brimstone.

 

No. I'm not sure how I would explain that one to my kids.

 

I don't think pregnancy will come from it, but as you said yourself with accompanying quotes, the scene WAS meant to have very intimate and borderline sexual undertones. The writer/director himself said so. That being said, no way it will lead to an involuntary pregnancy for Rey, that would be ridiculous. I do think it will lead to the two of them sharing too much of an emotional connection for the two of them to want to kill each other, which will certainly create drama considering as part of the Resistance Rey is going to be expected to bring him down, same with Kylo and his knights considering Rey is now the last jedi and as such is a considerable threat to the First Order and the fate of the dark side.

 

How many wins does "No" need in order to clinch the title?

 

Good grief, No.

 

"No" has clinched the division title, the conference title, and home court advantage throughout the play offs..

 

Well, it's neck and neck.

"Remember daughter, if you talk to a boy you really like on Facebook, you might get pregnant."