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ST Rise of Skywalker Director’s Cut

Discussion in 'Sequel Trilogy' started by smudger9, Dec 22, 2019.

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  1. smudger9

    smudger9 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Just saw the film and really enjoyed it. It was really fast moving, and whilst I’m sure it will feel slower on repeat viewings (like Rogue One did), I would love for Disney to give us an extended cut.

    There were a lot of quick cuts and rapid scenes that I’m sure were created to keep runtime down, but at the expense of the film itself.

    Let’s start a campaign!
     
  2. Lord Jocusta

    Lord Jocusta Jedi Padawan

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    I think there will be one for sure. Wouldn’t surprise me if after it crosses $1B that it gets released to bring us all back or some tie in to an extension on Disney+ subscription. But it’s going to happen.
     
  3. Daxon101

    Daxon101 Force Ghost star 6

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    When has a star wars movie ever got a directors cut? and the Special editions do not count really. they ain't seen as directors cuts.

    I don't think they will make a directors cut for this movie.
     
  4. Darth Smurf

    Darth Smurf Small, but Lethal star 6

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    I want George to add Babu shouting MacLunky 12 times!
     
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  5. Lulu Mars

    Lulu Mars Chosen One star 5

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    The director's cut is the one we've seen [face_beatup]
     
  6. smudger9

    smudger9 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I didn’t even consider doing it cinematically. I’d definitely see it a couple of times if they did.

    I suppose Disney did this with Endgame to kick it over the line.

    It would certainly add to the BO, which would be very welcome!
     
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  7. smudger9

    smudger9 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    We dont know that. JJ may have had a maximum film length dictated to him.
     
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  8. chris hayes

    chris hayes Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I think there will be plenty of deleted scenes in the Blu-ray special features.....
     
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  9. Glitterstimm

    Glitterstimm Force Ghost star 6

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    My guess is that there was A LOT of material shot for this film that we haven't seen. It feels like there are many story lines happening concurrently and we only see an abbreviated version of them. The question is whether Disney wants to keep it under wraps because it will show totally different outcomes to those story lines. For example, I would not be surprised if there were scenes shot where Rey is revealed to be Luke's daughter, not Palpatine's. Also, I bet they shot an alternate scenario where Ben is the one who kills Palpatine and gets killed himself, and then Rey is the one to sacrifice herself to bring him back to life. There is probably more Jannah/Lando/Finn stuff, and more Poe/Zorri stuff too. So much of the film feels truncated.

    However, I seriously doubt we will ever see an official director's cut or extended edition of any kind.
     
  10. Ricardo Funes

    Ricardo Funes Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I think it is possible, but it depends if they finished the special effect for the cut content.

    In Rogue One, for example, they included the removed scenes in the Blu-Ray, but they were in various levels of incompleteness.
     
  11. jeangreyforever

    jeangreyforever Jedi Master star 4

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    The film is doing well at the box office but still slightly below projections, even behind TLJ, and I imagine that the critics reviews exacerbated this. I can definitely see Iger feeling that a theatrically released extended edition would boost the film's box office to more desirable numbers and address some of the issues that fans and critics have had, such as with pacing. If Endgame could get a re-release with an end-credits scene that amounted to nothing, substantial new material would be a much bigger box office draw especially if marketed as answering all unresolved questions or fixing whatever fans had grievances with.
     
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  12. MaverickJedi85

    MaverickJedi85 Jedi Knight star 2

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    I think we'll get a bunch of deleted scenes, not an actual longer film.
     
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  13. Darth__Lobot

    Darth__Lobot Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    SW generally doesn't do that.... and let's just say that the alterations that have been made were a very mixed bag (ROTJ - I'm looking at you.... Nooooooooooooo)

    That being said - this movie and ROTS both could have used an extra 30-60 minutes (or not have the rest of their trilogy waste so much time on pointless plot arcs).
     
  14. Starwarsfan9000

    Starwarsfan9000 Jedi Master star 3

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    Well whether or not this is true. And I'm honestly not sure whether to believe it there very well could be. But like the supposed Snyder cut we may never see it.




    I don't know if it would have been better really I don't know what would have been better. I didn't talk about it and I haven't talked in awhile on here but I thought it wasn't good. I liked some things on a superficial level with somethings I found funny though most of it wasn't intentional I'm sure and some of my audience seemed to agree. I heard audible laughing at the Reylo kiss. It was a mix of reactions to say the least.
     
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  15. jeangreyforever

    jeangreyforever Jedi Master star 4

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    This sounds like a conspiracy theory for those demanding a Lucas cut.
     
  16. Darth Buzz

    Darth Buzz Jedi Master star 4

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    I hope someone from the cast/crew/story group comes out one day and tells the true story of what happened with this film. It’s just blatantly obvious that this thing got hacked in post production, and ideas for the story were very different across Lucasfilm
     
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  17. TripleZero

    TripleZero Jedi Knight star 1

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    If anything, I think we will get a "director's cut" in some capacity for this entire trilogy. Given the lack of cohesiveness, I could see there being a recut for all three films, adding some previously deleted scenes, removing other scenes, etc to mask the inconsistencies.
     
  18. Blame_It_On_Lucas

    Blame_It_On_Lucas Jedi Grand Master star 3

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    Its in my opinion that the reddit post is absolute garbage. Please its not like JJ hasn't done a film with fan service before that backfired. Can't believe people are enabling this guy by actually giving him attention.
     
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  19. jeangreyforever

    jeangreyforever Jedi Master star 4

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    They wouldn't be alterations though, but additions. Much needed additions that fix up plotholes and adjust the pacing.

    Kylo knows about the Dyad in the final film but it couldn't have been Palpatine who told him since Palpatine doesn't realize that Rey and Kylo are a Dyad until the very end. The Oracle scene that was cut from the beginning would have told Kylo this.

    Then the Lando-Jannah subplot featuring the stolen children of Rebellion heroes from the Resistance was entirely cut meaning that the Lando-Jannah scene at the very end suddenly comes out of nowhere and people wrongfully assume he's flirting with her.

    On Leia's deathbed she has Han's medal in her hands which Maz ends up giving to Chewie at the end. However, the medal isn't very noticeable in the scene with Leia so most people are probably going to miss that it was Leia's intention for Chewie to have it and just assume that Maz is the one who wanted to give Chewie the medal. The shot of Leia holding the medal from the teaser was cut so likely there was a buildup to that scene. Plus it's been confirmed that some Leia scenes were cut.
     
  20. smudger9

    smudger9 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    That would be amazing if it happened. I’d even pay to watch that whole trilogy in the cinema.
     
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  21. icqfreak

    icqfreak Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Wasnt the mortis son killed by Anakin though?

    I did love the fan idea of rey and kylo replacing the brother and sister on mortis. With anakin or luke (preferably anakin) taking over for the dying father.

    Would have confused general audiences, but would have been a better ending for hardcore fans I feel like.
     
  22. Starwarsfan9000

    Starwarsfan9000 Jedi Master star 3

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    Again I'm not believing it a 100% there's always a chance it is false and it probably is. But this is often a recurring thing now with the internet following films that are not well received upon release. Often fans will speculate and can tell even if this wasn't the full story something was up behind the scenes. Sometimes people will dance around the issue and never directly address it but then start giving information that basically they are saying something went wrong like the Snyder cut for Justice League campaign (Another co-written by Chris Terrio script so it wouldn't be the first time it happened) and then stories where they say there were problems outright once the film is out like Men In Black International, the Amazing Spider-Man series (which did come as a result of a hack into Sony mostly but the point was it was true) and Tim Miller confirming he fought with James Cameron on Terminator Dark Fate once it bombed.

    The internet can be wrong but it also can be right as was proven by how information on this film came out easily through leaks which you think they would try harder to keep. Some say these leaks go back even further then the few days or weeks I forget how it was before the film's release. The internet is always on the move and while people are trying to prevent it information is somehow getting out more. Whether some are false and some then turn out to be true something seems to constantly be amiss among many Hollywood productions that nobody wants to talk about. And this isn't new it's been happening for years but now thanks to the internet and people being aware now of behind the scenes information before a film or show's release the secrets are getting harder to contain. And the rumour of Matt Smith being there and then a removal sounds strange since even official sites were at first behind it before Abrams then said he wasn't. And when I learned about the Sith Dagger and saw what it looked like it reminded me of the Mortis Dagger but the Wavefinders also remind me of Holocrons.

    I'm not saying this was the plan but there was something different no matter how much people will try to claim this was the plan from the start as Colin has said he had no plans for Palpatine. We'll never know for sure unless more people give corroborating evidence that suggest things people are now speculating were definitely false or definitely true both from production and the actors. They'll say otherwise now but I imagine in a few years when things die down they will start talking about things cut out and regrets they had. If we heard something from Matt Smith himself it would lead to some answers. I don't fully endorse conspiracy theories because I'm not the one with the supposed information but if something did happen I wouldn't be surprised. Troubled productions are easier to spot now more than they ever have been. I imagine this will lead to more possible screw ups as people try to fix them. If they succeed it will be a testament but somehow I doubt they'll fix things the way they did with Star Wars itself originally when it started as a troubled production and stuck the landing.

    Also confusing general audiences was a thing I thought of too. Before Solo that is. Bringing Maul back pretty much throws that out the window. Some characters you could have maybe gotten around of. Rex could be any Clone who works with Anakin in the way Cody did in Revenge of the Sith that's easy to understand. Ahsoka's a little more complicated. You could say she was an important Jedi but never reveal she was Anakin's apprentice. But something about how they would address would make it sound like's bigger than any normal Jedi so something would sound off to a casual audience goer.

    Revenge of the Sith was just on TV and I finished watching it just there and I said this when I re-watched it during the lead up to Force Awakens and maybe it's just me and I know you can't avoid it since Sith came first but elements from Sith and Clone Wars don't add up and not in a way you could dismiss it I felt taken out of certain things. Random character lines and moments or worlds and also Ahsoka as Anakin's apprentice and being granted the rank of Master it didn't play for me knowing what came later. People don't like edits to the movies I know but I think Ahsoka should retroactively be acknowledged in someway to better line up. I don't need a shot of her on Mandalore by any means but her being a part of Anakin's turn I'm starting to think should be acknowledged in a film. Maybe it's just me I don't know.

    But Maul coming back does negate that argument pretty much. Even if you assume what we know he somehow got robotic legs you would be unsure of his motivations unless you knew because of Clone Wars he was building a crime power base. And his personality and demeanour is obviously Clone Wars/Rebels inspired with Witwer providing the voice. People who only knew him as the silent warrior who had three lines of dialogue would be confused but I guess that didn't matter. Now it does apparently if this is true. Are they catering to casuals, hardcore fans or trying to create a middle? It seems the last one but it doesn't gel.
     
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  23. Christopher Blair

    Christopher Blair Jedi Master star 4

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    True and since this is the last movie in the trilogy and supposedly the Saga, I guess you could consider those deleted scenes Canon lol
     
  24. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    No. Deleted scenes unless referenced elsewhere are not canon.
     
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  25. Christopher Blair

    Christopher Blair Jedi Master star 4

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    Don't be surprised if at least some of those deleted scenes end up in the novelization somehow
     
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