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Discussion in 'Literature' started by Hamtaro, Aug 26, 2002.

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  1. Hamtaro

    Hamtaro Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Maw Installation
    Center of the GFFA
    Anoth
    Csrilli(chiss world)


    any more ideas, plaease post
     
  2. MynDonos

    MynDonos Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Its a big galaxy, there are countless planets that are too remote to even name that you could choose from. Make up a name, or a catalogue number, and I can garuntee it describes some planet somewhere. Its not necessarily to list them all really.
     
  3. GrandAdmiralSam

    GrandAdmiralSam Jedi Youngling star 1

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    It's said that Yoda was able to hide on dagobah because the cave nearby that was full of the darkside or however you want to put it, cancelled out yoda's "light" powers. So I guess that would be the best way to hide....but then again maybe any remote world probably could as well. Obi wan on Tatooine, Joruus C'Boath on Wayland<thats not the right spelling...
     
  4. Sinje_Gawa

    Sinje_Gawa Jedi Youngling star 2

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    In plain sight.

    If you can hide from your hunters in plain sight, then you can hide anywhere. The Jedi that did survive the purge didn't seem to do anything all that spectacular. One of the greatest things they had in their favor was that it is a very big galaxy (full of sentients) and Jedi are, in comparison, very small.

    Do you really think that the name Ben Kenobi is going to fool Vader, that he won't realize it's Obi-Wan Kenobi? Or the name Luke Skywalker, who is ward of Owen and Beru, on Tatooine? Especially when it is probably appearing on dozens of Academy application forms from which the Empire plucks up the best pilots for service? (I have to agree with Corran Horn on this one, in "I, Jedi" in that I'm not entirely convinced that Ben was hiding Luke so much as setting a trap for Vader, one which Vader didn't walk into.)

    Elegos' Jedi uncle evaded the Jedi hunters in the galactic core, and settled on Alderaan of all places. Of course, he got blown up when the planet did, but he did survive the purge.

    So most of the survivors didn't do anything all that special.

    In something the size of the GFFA, individual beings are less than motes of dust. Try finding 10,000 or more of them when they scatter and coming up 100% successful.

    If you're smart, cautious and able to mask yourself well from other force users (and don't go whipping out your lightsaber) your chances of survival will increase dramatically in the short run.
     
  5. Hamtaro

    Hamtaro Jedi Padawan star 4

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    how about Caamas, most people arent there anymore.
     
  6. GrandAdmiralSam

    GrandAdmiralSam Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Sinje_Gawa your definitly right with all you said about how easily they probably could have hidden themselves. I'll be curious to find out how Palpatine and his "followers" manage to hunt out and kill thousands of jedi....
     
  7. DarthKarde

    DarthKarde Jedi Knight star 5

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    Sinje_Gawa your definitly right with all you said about how easily they probably could have hidden themselves. I'll be curious to find out how Palpatine and his "followers" manage to hunt out and kill thousands of jedi....

    I suspect that by the end of the clone wars there won't be thousands of Jedi left.
     
  8. Hamtaro

    Hamtaro Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I satrted this fourm for Ideas about places to hide not about: "There are millions of planets"
     
  9. DarthKarde

    DarthKarde Jedi Knight star 5

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    Looking at the map of the Galaxy.

    Bakura
    Endor
    Ison
    Hoth
    Bespin
    Varonat
    Dagobah
    Sluis Van


    All are a long way from the YV invasion path.
     
  10. Hamtaro

    Hamtaro Jedi Padawan star 4

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    For the time being.............
     
  11. Breako

    Breako Jedi Youngling star 1

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    The Jedi could hide on Endor and if the Vong or anyone else come, the Ewoks can whoop 'em like they did to the Empire.
     
  12. Sinje_Gawa

    Sinje_Gawa Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Is the goal of this exercise to hide trained Jedi, or the young students? Since we're talking about the Yuuzhan Vong conflict, I don't really think that Jedi Knights have any business hiding themselves when there is so much at stake and they should be united. They shouldn't expose or sacrifice themselves needlessly, but hiding is a victory for the Vong in and of itself, because then the Vong have taken away what is at the heart of the Jedi - defending those who cannot defend themselves.

    The students... well, I wouldn't hide them on a planet, that's for sure. The Vong seem specialized in taking on planets and twisting them to reflect their image. They're not nearly as impressive in space once you can counter their technology.

    So if you're looking for a location, my suggestion would be on a ship, in deep space, perhaps wild space or beyond. When the Rebel Alliance had no where else to go, they went to the galaxy's edge (it seems that way, as in the end of ESB). It's easy to get lost in a vast and unmeasurable tract of nothing. I think they were on the right track hiding the kids on the Errant Venture.

    Hiding on a planet in the Vong conflict would be an invitation for the Vong to take that planet next.
     
  13. JediHobbit

    JediHobbit Jedi Master star 5

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    Just put them on the Errant Venture and go off into some vast region of empty space.
     
  14. Hamtaro

    Hamtaro Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I know one thing though, Cheklev dont hide from noone, nowhere.
     
  15. Jedi_Liz

    Jedi_Liz Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Would the Vong really go to the planet Hoth? I bet the wampas would have them for breakfast!


    Well, they need to hide the students....they are the future of the Jedi.....

     
  16. Hamtaro

    Hamtaro Jedi Padawan star 4

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    There are 2 Bothan students , 20 humans, 1 Chiss(no lie), 4 Bith and 1 Rodian.
     
  17. Sinje_Gawa

    Sinje_Gawa Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Would the Vong go to Hoth? Are you kidding?

    In ecology, every species usually has a niche. Very few species choose to live in climates and regions that are inhospitable to them, to grow to fill every available space and conquer it, no matter the consequences. On Earth, humans do this very often.

    In the GFFA, the Vong are much more industrious than us humans ever were in conquering and utilizing every available space they can get their hands on and changing the environment to fulfill their needs.

    Yes, Hoth is a frozen, inhospitable world. But consider what the Vong can do. For their purposes, Coruscant was thousands of times more inhospitable than Hoth - and yet behold now the new homeworld of the Vong! It's the place we once knew as Coruscant. Is there any doubt they could or would do the same to a world that is more of a blank canvas than Coruscant for them to paint their perfect Vong world?

    The Vong shape planets to suit their needs. Putting Jedi kids on any planet would just be all the more reason for them to conquer and shape it.

    The safest place is on a ship in deep space.
     
  18. YoungJedi11

    YoungJedi11 Jedi Knight star 5

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    In my opinion, I say the whole stinkin' Republic should just pack up and move to the Unknown Regions. I bet there's a ton of places to hide there. Or, they could go to the Ssi-Ruuk cluster...Maybe they'd actually HELP this time instead of kill...
     
  19. Lord_Dathomir

    Lord_Dathomir Jedi Youngling

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    I would say aboard the Errant Venture in the Maw instalation or Dagobah.
     
  20. Hamtaro

    Hamtaro Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Sinje, you are a genius. Anoth or the Maw make since to me. They could make Hoth into Yavin or Bespin if they wanted. Hoth has NO strategic value however. The Vong(if they win) will eventually take every planet they can find. But Anoth is unknown. Send everyone there. Once again Sinje, you are a genius.
     
  21. Sinje_Gawa

    Sinje_Gawa Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Um... thank you, but it's not that hard to see really. A lot of people are suggesting the same thing. It just requires a 'certain point of view'. Let's not sing my praises too much, okay? Besides, it probably won't make you very popular in certain circles. I've gotten a reputation for taking things too far around here because I tend to use a lot of examples, controversy and related concepts to get people to think 'outside the box' of the current discussion and I have ruffled a few feathers (or feather-haters). Some people don't plot the course changes I'm making and really think that I sincerely mean everything I say and that I take it too seriously.

    As for Hoth having no strategic value, I beg to differ. It's strategic value is that it has no apparent strategic value, therefore it is a tempting place to hide - and therefore a sensible place to look for those you have driven into hiding. And taking it away would mean fewer such places to hide, fewer places that seem to have no strategic value, limiting the options of the opposition and perhaps even herding them toward a place you want them to be.
     
  22. Voyxn_Killaz

    Voyxn_Killaz Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I personally don't like the maw place. The Vong are extremely experienced in using gravitic forces, and probably would be able to enter the maw in a short time.

    I'd just use a bulk transport and convert it into a gigantic training area. Why stay in a certain place when you fly around the galaxy.

    The problem with a planet is the fact that you are stuck on it (See Yavin IV in the EOV) If you were on a spaceship, you could just run from trouble. Plus also you would not have your supply train give away your position. Merely set up rondeveau points, and send a shuttle to tell them where the actual resupply point is.
     
  23. YoungJedi11

    YoungJedi11 Jedi Knight star 5

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    They should have kept the Lusankya! They could have converted it into a massive Jedi-carrying thingy! It would have enough shields, enough firepower, and be able to carry enough supplies to last them for a very long time. They should have thought about it! Then again, they could just build another SSD...Wait...whatever happened to Kuat and Fondor? Are they taken yet? They could the ships from there...
     
  24. Knight1192

    Knight1192 Jedi Knight star 6

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    Where should they hide? One a worldship the Vong don't know has been hijacked.
     
  25. Charlemagne19

    Charlemagne19 Chosen One star 8

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    Yes the Lord Darth Vader routinely surveys Academy Applications.

    *heavy breathing*

    "B average....no good"

    "This one cheated on a test..."

    "Skywalker...uhhh I'm keeping this one."

    Besides Skywalker is unlikely I think to raise any hackles, my guess is that Darth completely eradicated any remnant of his name, place, and birth from the galaxy as a whole.

    Besides Ben doesn't need to set a trap for Vader, he wants to keep Luke safe. Hence why he rests on Tatooine, the one planet Vader will never visit again after his mother's death....or possibly the third movie.

    Heck for all we know, the lava pit ist there.

    Colonel: My Lord, we've found the droids on Tatooine want to go there?

    Vader: You mean the place I was a slave, my mother was tortured, and the place I got this costume? I'll pass

     
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