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JCC Census Santa Clause and Baby Jesus Christ

Discussion in 'Community' started by Jedi_Sith_Smuggler_Droid, Dec 24, 2022.

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Yes or No: You like Santa Clause Visiting Baby Jesus?

  1. NO

    10 vote(s)
    58.8%
  2. YES

    7 vote(s)
    41.2%
  1. Jedi_Sith_Smuggler_Droid

    Jedi_Sith_Smuggler_Droid Force Ghost star 6

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    What is your opinion of Santa Claus visiting Jesus Christ as a baby at the scene of the nativity?

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  2. AutumnLight91

    AutumnLight91 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    As a Christian I must say I like the image cause it puts things in proper perspective and order. Too often it feels like Christmas is more about Santa than Christ for what the holiday is supposed to be about. We've basically made Santa a god and deity to worship. I'm not kidding, read to the lyrics of Santa Claus is coming to town.

    "He sees you when you're sleeping, he knows when you're awake, he knows if you've been bad or good.."

    Does that not sound like a god thing? And people use that on their kids all year to "be good or they'll get nothing from Santa".

    So yeah. For me, put CHRIST in CHRISTMAS first.

    Thank you.
     
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  3. Rogue1-and-a-half

    Rogue1-and-a-half Manager Emeritus who is writing his masterpiece star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    No. Get your kitschy Coca-Cola pitchman out of my religious observance.
     
  4. Darth_Duck

    Darth_Duck Chosen One star 5

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    No, get your baby Jesus out of my gift-receiving day. Santa shouldn't be stopping to visit Jesus, he should be bringing me stuff
     
  5. DarkGingerJedi

    DarkGingerJedi Chosen One star 7

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    Why not. They're pretty much the same mythological figure. Both are omnipotent demi-god beings with long VIP lists, watching over us and give us presents if we're good, and crap if we're bad. One is for kids. The other for adults.

    Mix it up. Have fun.
     
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  6. MotivateR5D4

    MotivateR5D4 Force Ghost star 5

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    Christmas is a time when people of all religions come together to worship Jesus Christ.

    - Bart Simpson

    I assume that applies to Santa as well.

    Aren't we forgetting the true meaning of this day?

    The birth of Santa.

    - Also Bart Simpson
     
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  7. Point Given

    Point Given Manager star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    I like it in the sense that it raises questions about Santa's origin as he is way over 2 millennia old. He may be an elder god or some eldritch being.
     
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  8. Lord Vivec

    Lord Vivec Chosen One star 10

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    In the Dresden Files, Odin has an alter ego as Kringle
     
  9. Rylo Ken

    Rylo Ken Chosen One star 7

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    The holy quaternity

    in Austria baby Jesus is already doing Santa’s job, bringing the tree and presents through the keyhole of your door. Cause he’s a baby and small. Thank you baby Jesus for the new ski boots. I love them!
     
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  10. Bacon164

    Bacon164 Chosen One star 8

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    Christmas is a pagan holiday.

    Christmas tree > Santa > Jesus
     
  11. Jedi_Sith_Smuggler_Droid

    Jedi_Sith_Smuggler_Droid Force Ghost star 6

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    My biggest questions: What was Santa doing before Christ and Christmas as a gig?

    If Santa visited Christ’a birth where is Santa Claus for the crucifixion and resurrection?

    What do people at Christ’s birth make of Santa’s clothes? He’s wearing some things that won’t be invented until roughly until the 19th Century.
     
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  12. Rogue1-and-a-half

    Rogue1-and-a-half Manager Emeritus who is writing his masterpiece star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    If I saw Santa Claus at the Nativity, I'd assume he had traveled back in time to attempt to kill Jesus so Christmas would be his alone.
     
  13. mnjedi

    mnjedi JCC Arena Game Host star 5 VIP - Game Host

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    Yes, that’s my assumption as well, he feeds off of the joy of children. Which as far as eldritch abominations go is actually a pretty good deal for us. Especially since he territorially defends his feeding grounds from other more malevolent entities.

    Somebody write this screenplay btw.
     
  14. blackmyron

    blackmyron Chosen One star 7

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    Strictly speaking, considering a Saint is strictly a Christian thing, so his appearance at the Nativity is an anachronism.

    But personally speaking, he should be present because we need at least one CHRISTIAN there for CHRISTMAS.

    BTW, one of the Apocrypha (books of the Bible that were rejected by committees and such for your laymen) is about Jesus as a child and man, he's basically like the kid from The Omen.

    "... he went through the village, and a child ran and dashed against his shoulder. And Jesus was provoked and said unto him: Thou shalt not finish thy course (lit. go all thy way). And immediately he fell down and died. But certain when they saw what was done said: Whence was this young child born, for that every word of his is an accomplished work? And the parents of him that was dead came unto Joseph, and blamed him, saying: Thou that hast such a child canst not dwell with us in the village: or do thou teach him to bless and not to curse: for he slayeth our children.
    And Joseph called the young child apart and admonished him, saying: Wherefore doest thou such things, that these suffer and hate us and persecute us? But Jesus said: I know that these thy words are not thine: nevertheless for thy sake I will hold my peace: but they shall bear their punishment. And straightway they that accused him were smitten with blindness."
     
  15. Jedi_Sith_Smuggler_Droid

    Jedi_Sith_Smuggler_Droid Force Ghost star 6

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    Was kid Jesus on the naughty list?
     
  16. DarkGingerJedi

    DarkGingerJedi Chosen One star 7

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    According to Anne Rice’s kid Jesus novel…yeah, He’s a little prankster w gods powers,
     
  17. Jedi_Sith_Smuggler_Droid

    Jedi_Sith_Smuggler_Droid Force Ghost star 6

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    Anne Rice’s Kid Jesus Vampire Hunter.

    I like the sequel when the resurrected spirit of Jesus shows up in 1880s America to hunt vampires with a resurrected Abraham Lincoln.
     
  18. Luke02

    Luke02 Chosen One star 6

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    Yeah I like Baby Jesus. Lying there in your little ghost manger just looking at your Baby Einstein developmental videos learning about shapes and colors.



     
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  19. Jabba-wocky

    Jabba-wocky Chosen One star 10

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    This is of course very stupid. This kind of thing is the reason the Puritans strongly opposed Christmas. To be seriously religious-minded is most often to frown at this kind of thing. Which is pretty revealing about the chest-thumping morality of the "conservative" party that fixates on this kind of idiocy as the most important cultural war when the kind of figures they claim to admire wouldn't even have supported it in the first place.
     
  20. Bacon164

    Bacon164 Chosen One star 8

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    Puritans were right to eschew Christmas, because it has everything to do with paganism and nothing to do with Jesus Christ. It is time for pagans to reclaim Christmas.
     
  21. Jabba-wocky

    Jabba-wocky Chosen One star 10

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    Praisegod Barebones, eat your heart out.
     
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  22. Bacon164

    Bacon164 Chosen One star 8

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    A reminder to sign up for speed dating if you’re single and ready to mingle
     
  23. Ramza

    Ramza Administrator Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    It’s an abomination, unlike a Catalonian man taking a ****, which is in keeping with the proper spirit of the season.
     
  24. Rogue1-and-a-half

    Rogue1-and-a-half Manager Emeritus who is writing his masterpiece star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Yeah, those Puritans had some names, didn't they? Madlib kind of thing going on. Is there a Puritan name generator online? There should be. Everybody in this thread pick a Puritan name. Mine is Eatbread Godstooth.

    EDIT: There is a Puritan Name Generator.

    Best one in my initial batch of ten: Faint-Not Mildmay.
     
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  25. Jedi_Sith_Smuggler_Droid

    Jedi_Sith_Smuggler_Droid Force Ghost star 6

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    Im assuming you mean the depiction is stupid and not this thread.

    Personally putting Santa at the birth of Christ for me is the same thing as depicting C-3PO & R2-D2 visiting or Superman, the Pope, Donald Trump, Snoopy, Dinosaurs, a TV news crew, or robotic wisemen whose databanks contain all knowledge.



    I guess the early Christians realized right away there was no way they could get the European Pagans to give up their Solstice celebration. So the Catholic Church decide if you can’t beat’em join’em and adapted their religion for the holiday.

    It reminds me a little of the Roman Planet Star Trek with a Sun god who turns out to be the Son of God. Solstice is a Sun based holiday determined by actual nature. It’s not simply a date decided on my humans. Here we have Christians swapping the Sun starting over its cycle with the north of the sun of god.

    Also the entire Catholic idea of saints is technically sacrilegious as is devotion to the blessed mother. It should be just the one true God people pray to. And that’s even murky with the one god being three gods.