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Say what you want about Hayden and Natalie's acting. . .

Discussion in 'Archive: Attack of the Clones' started by stacysatrip, Nov 21, 2002.

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  1. stacysatrip

    stacysatrip Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I think a lot of people are/were down on Natalie and Hayden's performances in AotC. Yes, they were a bit lackluster in parts of the film, but overall I think those two have enormous chemistry together. The wedding kiss looked so absolutely convincing--the look on Hayden's face when the kiss was over--you could see all over that face Anakin's love for Padme. Well acted.
     
  2. AAMD11

    AAMD11 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    indeed!
     
  3. jedi_master_ousley

    jedi_master_ousley Force Ghost star 8

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    Hey, I'd have that look too, if I just made out with Natalie Portman! ;)

    But I think Natalie did a good job, but Hayden stumbled over sentances a bit much for my taste, even for Anakin.
     
  4. TheVioletBurns

    TheVioletBurns Jedi Master star 4

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    I thought Hayden was solid, and Natalie was decent... she's certainly not as bad as people make her out to be. She's a friping former queen doing her best to squash her feelings for this rampant 20-year-old Jedi. I thought she came out a lot during the end of the film, which was incharacter, having finally given in to Anakin... what a thought.

    OK, I'll come straight out with it... it's BECAUSE Hayden was so solid that I'm so in love with AOTC. He carried the movie for me.

    Those who didn't like his acting... their loss. BIG loss, IMO. He embodies Anakin Skywalker.
     
  5. bjbrickm

    bjbrickm Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Please provide examples where Hayden stumbled over his sentences. Note I'm not saying Anakin, there were a few times when he was intentionally supposed to stuble, such as his first line to Padme. I'm talking Hayden. When does he stumble when his character is not supposed to? Give an example, if you can find one.
     
  6. Sophita

    Sophita Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    fully agreed. In particular, I think Hayden was excellent-Look at him going from the nervous and innocent little boy to the dark and dangerous man we all know...It's really remarkable acting, especially concidering how hard it is to play a role that four other actors besides you have done. 0_0

    I think Natalie's acting is pretty good, too, although unfortunately she's a bit more uneven than Hayden. I also have to say Ewan McGregor does an excellent job-Especially considering he's acting with CG characters through most of the movie.
     
  7. wallflower77

    wallflower77 Jedi Youngling

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    I had no problem with their acting at all...certain scenes made me squeamish, but the acting worked for me.
     
  8. CarbonKnight

    CarbonKnight Jedi Youngling star 4

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    Hayden = excellent performance
    Natalie = should stick to being a fanboy's wet dream
     
  9. Quixotic-Sith

    Quixotic-Sith Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Eh, I wasn't terribly convinced by either of them, and if there was chemistry between them I didn't see it. But hey, if it worked for some folks, more power to them.
     
  10. foxbatkllr

    foxbatkllr Jedi Knight star 6

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    You can't say there's no chemistry between them because the picnic discussion showed amazing chemistry. That's where I was truly won over and found the love story believable. Without that scene, the love story doesn't work for me.
     
  11. Quixotic-Sith

    Quixotic-Sith Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    You can't say there's no chemistry between them because the picnic discussion showed amazing chemistry.

    If it was there, I didn't see it. I saw a lot of acting that felt forced, so I didn't buy into the scene. My .02.
     
  12. royalguard96

    royalguard96 Jedi Knight star 5

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    Say what you want about Hayden and Natalie's acting. . .

    OK, I will :) Natalie was the most improved actor from TPM, and Hayden gave the second-best pure acting performance we've had in a SW film, after Harrison Ford in ESB.

    In my opinion ;)
     
  13. NORTHSTAR

    NORTHSTAR Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Say what you want about Hayden and Natalie's acting. . .

    ...As a matter of fact I will. Hayden is average to below average with his part. His lack of experience is more than obvious. George really blew it in this guy. When all you can say in a scene is "Yes Master"..."Ok Master" "Yes Master" "Don't say that Master"...Terrible acting, horrible writing, not worthy of the STAR WARS name.

    Natalie Portman - The worst actress/Actor in the history of Star Wars. Worse than Hayden and even Jar Jar. That stupid Looking confused moose look on her face evey time she is suppose to act serious about something. Hey Portman - learn to hold a blaster! It's not a wet sponge. Every time I watch Padme fall off the ship at 200 Mph I pray that her character will be dead. But everytime I watch it she still gets up and runs off the desert like an uncoordinated clutz.

    Star Wars is Dead

     
  14. foxbatkllr

    foxbatkllr Jedi Knight star 6

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    Star Wars is Dead

    Then why do you still worship it?
     
  15. MikeSolo

    MikeSolo Jedi Padawan star 4

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    sounds like someone in here needs a bottle and maybe the baby will be quiet.
     
  16. Palpateen

    Palpateen Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Gee Northstar, did you get up on the wrong side of bed or something? Hayden and Natalie were great...an incredibly attractive couple at the center of a great film. They did just fine by me.

    To quote Northstar:
    Every time I watch Padme fall off the ship at 200 Mph I pray that her character will be dead. But everytime I watch it she still gets up and runs off the desert like an uncoordinated clutz.

    Number one, if you hate it so much why do keep watching it? Something of a masochist, are you? If you're that masochistic, go watch those scenes in the new Harry Potter movie where Dobby the annoying elf self-flagellates himself a bunch of times. That'll set ya free! That's pretty kinky stuff for a kid's film if you ask me, but since you're into punishing yourself, well, it seems like something you'd enjoy. :)

    Number two, I feel confident in telling you that no matter how many times you watch it,
    she's not going to be dead. I know you're "Praying" for it as you say, but it's highly unlikely it's gonna change. To use your word "everytime" she is going to get up and run off. She's not going to be dead Northstar, count on it! Watch it 10,000 times and she won't die. LOL, I guarantee it! :p

    Move along.
     
  17. Darth-Mule

    Darth-Mule Jedi Padawan star 4

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    You can't blame Natalie or Hayden. The problem is George Lucas. I don't know whether he's so distracted with what ILM is doing that he doesn't really pay attention to what his actors are doing or what. I mean, watching him in the DVD's 'Puppets to Pixels' feature, he nitpicks about the tiniest things, Yoda's ears wiggling too much, not enough, etc... why can't he be as attentive to his actor's performances.
     
  18. Armand_Stormchaser

    Armand_Stormchaser Jedi Youngling star 1

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    why can't he be as attentive to his actor's performances

    Because, despite all the credit he deserves for dreaming up Star Wars, he isn't that good a director. I shouldn't even have to say this, but just viewing TPM and AOTC shows this quite clearly. He got lucky with the original Star Wars; nothing like it had ever been seen before on the cinematic screen. But viewing the PT thus far shows he lacks in the area of screen direction. Sure, he can write up great stories (and not-so-great dialogue), but he can't then translate those stories into a film. He lacks the talent that is present in directors like Francis Ford Coppola, Steven Spielberg, Stanley Kubrick, and Alfred Hitchcock.

     
  19. Starwoman

    Starwoman Jedi Youngling star 1

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    To me it's not the actors' performances that is the problem. It is the dialogue. There is no way getting around some of those lines. Even for the most experienced and trained actor in the world to utter the lines that Hayden had to during the fireplace scene it just would not have sounded right. I mean no disrespect to Mr. Hales or Mr. Lucas, but they could have made some of those lines simpler. I know I'm going to burn for saying this. By the way I liked the movie so I'm not a basher in case someone might think so from what I've just stated.
     
  20. Jedi knight Pozzi

    Jedi knight Pozzi Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    `When all you can say in a scene is "Yes Master"..."Ok Master" "Yes Master" "Don't say that Master"...Terrible acting, horrible writing, not worthy of the STAR WARS name.'

    But that's a script problem then. Not Haydens fault at all.

    `He got lucky with the original Star Wars'

    And American Graffeti?
     
  21. Starwoman

    Starwoman Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Yeah I don't think George Lucas is a terrible writer of dialogue in general. Afterall he did write American Grafitti, one of my all time favorite movies and he did write A New Hope. There may have been some clunky dialogue in A New Hope, at least that's what some say, but in no way can you say that some of the lines in Attack of the Clones compare the same to the dialogue in the original movies in clunkiness. They are worse than clunky. I don't understand why this is so and I'm not a PT basher. I like the PT movies in general, but there a certain areas where I don't. In saying this I also have to say that Ewan as Obi got some of the best lines, so I do think it was just bad luck for Hayden and Natalie.
     
  22. Keyan_Farlander

    Keyan_Farlander Jedi Master star 1

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    Hayden and Natalie's acting was unbelievably bad. While watching the movie, almost every time one of them said something, I cringed from embarrassment for them. These two people are by far, BY FAR, the worst actors in Star Wars, and I have a hard time thinking of too many worse actors period.
     
  23. Starwoman

    Starwoman Jedi Youngling star 1

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    No, I don't agree. I think what some people are cringing at including myself is the bad dialogue. If you watch Natalie Portman in The Professional you cannot say she is a bad actor. I really like her performance in that movie and in a few others, but especially in that one. Maybe she could be a little more spirited or lively in some scenes, but really, I think it's the writing or the way in which her character was conceived that is the problem. As for Hayden, he is a fine actor. Watch Life as a House and you will see what others see and in Episode 2 itself there are some really great moments where he is wonderful to watch. By far though than any other actor in Episode 2 Hayden got the shaft in the dialogue department.
     
  24. yodaschum

    yodaschum Jedi Padawan star 4

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    If you liked it then fine, but for me, I thought it was TERRIBLE. When I saw the "forbidden Love" trailer, I though it was a rough cut of the film! Seriously, I thought those love scenes were out-takes. I didn't think he'd actually use them.
     
  25. Darth_Imran

    Darth_Imran Jedi Padawan star 4

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    ...As a matter of fact I will. Hayden is average to below average with his part. His lack of experience is more than obvious. George really blew it in this guy. When all you can say in a scene is "Yes Master"..."Ok Master" "Yes Master" "Don't say that Master"...Terrible acting, horrible writing, not worthy of the STAR WARS name.

    Natalie Portman - The worst actress/Actor in the history of Star Wars. Worse than Hayden and even Jar Jar. That stupid Looking confused moose look on her face evey time she is suppose to act serious about something. Hey Portman - learn to hold a blaster! It's not a wet sponge. Every time I watch Padme fall off the ship at 200 Mph I pray that her character will be dead. But everytime I watch it she still gets up and runs off the desert like an uncoordinated clutz.

    Star Wars is Dead


    [face_plain]

    *Sigh*

     
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