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Serious plot hole in episode II

Discussion in 'Archive: Attack of the Clones' started by ChancellorGoauld, Apr 12, 2004.

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  1. ChancellorGoauld

    ChancellorGoauld Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Anakin says "Well I am a slow learner" to Dooku, and yet in episode 1 the Naboo starship captain tells him "you catch on quick".
    Which one of these truths would George Lucas have us beleive?
     
  2. SLR

    SLR Jedi Knight star 5

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    I think you are being a wee bit nitpicky here.
     
  3. Mr_Burns

    Mr_Burns Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Anakin became a teenage slacker.
     
  4. JohnWesleyDowney

    JohnWesleyDowney Jedi Master star 5

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    First of all, that's not a PLOT HOLE!

    In the fight with Dooku, Anakin is being SARCASTIC when he says he's a slow learner.
     
  5. Garth Maul

    Garth Maul Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Yeah, that's a pretty "serious" plothole alright. 8-}

    I think Anakin was being sarcastic - you have to say SOMETHING when the bad guy insults you. [face_laugh]
     
  6. JohnWesleyDowney

    JohnWesleyDowney Jedi Master star 5

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    Great minds think alike! ;)
     
  7. AdamBertocci

    AdamBertocci Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    This is the funniest thread in a while. Kudos. [face_laugh]



    (And if this isn't a parody thread, I say it should be.)



    Rick McCallum loves you!
     
  8. GriffZ

    GriffZ Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Once again George Lucas has raped my childhood. :(

     
  9. Azanulbizar

    Azanulbizar Jedi Master star 1

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    I do think Anakin was being a bit sarcastic there. However, I think both statements are also true. Anakin does catch on quick; he's a skilled pilot and probably picked up Jedi skills just as quickly because of his strength in the Force. Yet Obi-Wan reminds him that he still has much to learn; he's impulsive and a bit immature at times.
     
  10. I_AM_A_CLONER

    I_AM_A_CLONER Jedi Padawan star 4

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    ^^What he said.

    The Cloner
     
  11. Sithman

    Sithman Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    Yup, he's a 3SAer.
     
  12. cooker

    cooker Jedi Youngling star 2

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    \ POP /
    - [face_shocked] -
    / -|- \

    This movie is now dead to me.
     
  13. fosh-bantus88

    fosh-bantus88 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    ive noticed that too, but it isnt that "serious"

    anakin's quick thinking allows him to catch on pretty quick at operating starships, while his stubborn arrogance makes him a slow learner in tactical combat.
     
  14. Garth Maul

    Garth Maul Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    No no no no!

    I can imagine the OT DVD: Ulimate Uber-Edition with extended scenes with Obi-Wan explaining things to Luke.

    "I thought I could train him as well as Yoda. But I was wrong - I quickly lost patience with his ADD and his stupidity - he couldn't seem to comprehend the most basic concepts. But he caught on pretty quick that I didn't like his style, so he began wearing eye makeup and dressing in black. He was seduced by the Dark Side of the Cure".
     
  15. vacantlook

    vacantlook Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Having just watched TPM again, I think an example of Anakin's ability to learn can be seen in his operation of the Naboo fighter. He quickly was able to ascertain what controls worked for what. So, in this instance, he was a quick-learner. On the other hand, parts like his, "Ok, let's go left," statement and his aimless firing the ship's weapons right after R2 is able to get the ship's power back after they burned out inside the droid control ship show Anakin having a bit of weakness in learning to quickly develop strategies. It is this such slowness of wisdom that can be referenced as Anakin being a slow-learner. He's quick to pick up skills, just not application.
     
  16. Obi_Frans

    Obi_Frans Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Once again George Lucas has raped my childhood.


    LOL, this made me spit out my cornflakes!
     
  17. MeBeJedi

    MeBeJedi Force Ghost star 6

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    "Anakin says "Well I am a slow learner" to Dooku"

    I thought that was the best line in the movie! [face_laugh]

    It's only a "plot hole" to people who didn't get the joke. ;)
     
  18. JediTrilobite

    JediTrilobite Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    He was being sarcastic
     
  19. MeBeJedi

    MeBeJedi Force Ghost star 6

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    I guess Anakin isn't the only "slow learner". [face_laugh]
     
  20. NiktosRule

    NiktosRule Jedi Padawan star 4

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    This is a hilarious thread. The joy you can get when people don't catch on to sarcasm.
     
  21. obi_wanmeister

    obi_wanmeister Jedi Youngling star 1

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  22. ChancellorGoauld

    ChancellorGoauld Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    A lot of you guys are brighter than some of the latest thread topics in this forum seem to indicate :D Nice going
    Now excuse me while I submit this to the 'favourite plot holes' thread. ;-)
     
  23. MeBeJedi

    MeBeJedi Force Ghost star 6

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    "The joy you can get when people don't catch on to sarcasm."

    Were you being sarcastic there? [face_mischief]
     
  24. Darth_Meul

    Darth_Meul Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Anakin says "Well I am a slow learner" to Dooku, and yet in episode 1 the Naboo starship captain tells him "you catch on quick".

    If Ric Ollie is the teacher, everyone could catch on pretty quick. "Look there, my finger!"
     
  25. bburditt

    bburditt Jedi Youngling star 5

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    LOL, this made me spit out my cornflakes!

    That made ME spit out MY cornflakes.
     
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