Shatterpoint: Good lord...

I knew Stover was awesome, but didn't think he was that awesome. How you can make a jedi that badass and still be a jedi...

How is this novel regarded by most of the EU community? It's a bit bloody for a Star Wars book, and I don't think I have heard sex mentioned much less rape implications. So was it considered too dark?

 

Most people I know never even finished it.

It's one of the few PT era books I own, I never got page 100 in 3 tries.

Just never got me hooked.

 

It's generally well regarded, but I think it's the weakest of the 3 Stover SW novels. I still really enjoyed it; the worst of Stover is still really damn good.

 

The only time I have ever liked Mace Windu.

 

First time I tried to read it, I gave up; to me, it just wasn't Star Wars. But once I'd read Traitor, I *got* Stover's style, and found Shatterpoint to be pretty darn awesome. It's great to find some relatively original takes on the Saga. 'Course, Shatterpoint pales in comparison to the RotS novelization -- but then, what doesn't?

 

I didn?t like it, as I only like books with fuzzy care bear robots and cozy tea parties and frolicking adventures through bubble fields of joy and love.

 

I found it to be one of the best SW novels I read in the PT era. I haven't read all of them. But of all the ones I read, I found it extraordinarely good...

It gave me a whole new appreciation for Mace!


Also, the perspective he brings to the CW is superb in bringing us deeper into the root causes of the war and palpatine's strategy for taking the Empire.

A+

Shatterpoint rules!

 

It's Apocalypse Now with lightsabers, what's not to like?

 

Yeah, I liked it a lot. While it was Stover's weakest to date, it was still great, and it was nice to see the Shatterpoints come into play once again in the ROTS novel, also by Stover.



And it was a lot more fun to read than Heart of Darkness

 

I loved it, I would still put Traitor and RotS above it, but then again, I'd put them above pretty much all the EU novels so that doesn't really mean too much.

I'm a huge Stover fan both EU and otherwise, I really like his style, it is very gritty and can sometimes be brutal, but it is his psychology and his ability to get right inside characters heads that I really love. Also, something that doesn't get mentioned so much, but his fight scenes are great as well, maybe it is because of the way he portrays his characters and gets into their heads, but you can really feel the effects of the battles both physically and psychologically.

 

that"s precisely what i loved about the novel: it digs down into the character's heads.


Also, as first CW novel, I really feel it sets the tone for the beginning of the dark times.

Ain't read RoTS yet, but can't wait to, I wonder how he potrays the Palp vs Windu battle from Mace's perspective in light of Shatterpoint.

 

I used to be a Big Anti-Stover fan.

Then I read Shatterpoint and Revenge of the Sith.

What I love is the fact that he utterly contrasts Vegere/Jacen against Mace Windu.

They have the same thoughts, ideas, and problems with the Force.

....And come to utterly different conclusions.

 

I also loved Shatterpoint, with a passion!

It's much too often that reading SW EU feels like I'm reading Superman comix. The Jedi are cool & all, but I just can't really relate to these fantastic force powers they have, so it's why I gravitate towards books like Shatterpoint, SotE or the RC books. Shatter does a nice job of giving me the average citizens PoV of the SW galaxy & Stover is such a good author. Loved it man, too much love!

 

I really liked it, it was one of my favorite SW novels actually.

Q.F.T. One of the most accurate statements I've ever heard.

 

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Ahh if Excellence were about, he'd tell you that the mere two pages spent on the Yoda/Sidious fight is laughable.

But seriously, it was nice to see a Jedi that isn't tearing through hordes of enemies page after page. It humanised THE prequel trilogy character that needed it most. There wasn't enough about him explored. Facts and folklore, but no deeper characterisation.

 

Shatterpoint made me like Mace Windu.

 

Shatterpoint for me was Stover's best work without question. Sure ROTS is good but it pales to the impact Shatterpoint had. This book shows exactly what the Clone Wars exist to do, how and why yet also affirms why the Jedi do what they do. They lose? Of course they lose, the game was set so they could only lose. Shatterpoint was the 1st Clone Wars book, it had to set the standard and it did - too bad the rest of CW never matched it. It also took the realistic style being deployed by DR to its ultimate extension, after Shatterpoint anything would pale in comparison.

JB

 

I can't stand it. I was expecting Full Metal Jacket or Apocalypse Now with lightsabers and I end up with nothing like it. It just felt limp and I was thoroughly disappointed.

 

What's really weird is the former is exactly what we got....

....and which was surprising because I never thought for a second they'd publish anything like that.

 

If I were trapped on a desert island and could bring with me but one Stover novel, it would be a toss up between Shatterpoint and Heroes Die.

Stover is the most entertaining writer ever. If I could write like him, I would sit at home and write stories just for myself.


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Ex hates Shatterpoint with a passion, mention him we will not. I find his lack of faith disturbing.

Shatterpoint rocks! IMHO it's one of the most violent EU books as well as one of the most profane. What about all those Mace Windu cowboy scenes, he all but says "This planet ain't big enough for the two of us."

I love Nick Rostu, he's actually a lot like a guy I iknow who is also named Nick and hasn't read Shatterpoint.

 

I just love Mace's line at the end of the final fight.

"It seems that I'm the last one standing." Or something to that effect.

Me too. He's got one of my favorite writing styles. His books are violent, but his almost poetic writing style seems to balance out the more bloody parts.

I've went looking for some of his other novels, but none of the stores I visit have any of his stuff.

And, IIRC, Stover's the only SW author to use the word crap. Useless tidbit there.

 

He all but uses the 'eff' work as well.