Amph She Didn’t Kill Sparky Too: Marvel's Agatha All Along [Disney+]

Unfortunately, I have no memory of what she was saying last week so when it happens in the future it will fall on deaf ears.

Secondly, if people are enjoying it, then maybe those people will give it a re-watch but I'm not in that group. I really enjoyed Andor, like most, but haven't gone back to it for a second viewing. The only episodes I've watched more than once was Loki s1 episodes 1 & 2, a handful of early Mando, and a few episodes of X-men '97. I don't see myself revisiting Hawkeye, Falcon & Winter Soldier, Obi-wan, or any show that's been on D+.

 

Something tells me when they get to the episode explaining it, it will be covered in the recap before the episode airs.

 

Yeah, that happens in GOT and HOTD a lot. Remember Arya's death list? Here's a reminder of that list in the recap. Then later in the episode when some guy shows up and he says his name we're like "OMG, he's on her list!"

 

I'd say it's a combination of both - time and interest. I'm the type of guy that likes to watch a refresher video before diving into a show. I watched ScreenCrush's Agatha recap that gave the full MCU history which combined 17 hours in 21 minutes. It talked a lot about the infinity saga which I didn't need. I probably needed more of a WandaVision recap but with that show I actually cared about Wanda and Vision and a little bit about their kids and especially very little about Agatha. The only part of "Dr. Strange...Madness" that I liked was when Wanda realized she was scaring her boys and awoke to the error of her ways.

 

I wonder if they’ll mention Sparky… and whatever happened to Ralph Boner, wasn’t Agatha’s house actually his?

 

32 minutes

 

And yes

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questions, questions, questions, questions, questions and no answers

 

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After last weeks rock ballad Witches Road the Evil Dead homage was dope but I'm still listening to that version on a loop.

Why would Billy help Agatha, didn't she try to string him up? Also did he jump in from a different reality? Is he from the one in MoM where he was real? So I guess if this version of Agatha never tried to kill him that gets a pass

 

Well,

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It was Wiccan all along.

I mean, we all knew it was Billy.
Curious to see what's going on here and whether the darkhold has a hold on him. Where did Rio go?
Poor Alice! I hope she and Mrs. Hart come back by the end.
Also, Agatha impersonating Mrs. Hart was pretty funny. Sad it was a fake out.

I don't think the Salem Seven are much of a threat though if Wiccan is powered up. Wondering if it's one of them controlling him? Guess we'll find out.

Darkest Hour/Wake thy Power

So Wiccan has been awakened.

Or....he's been possessed by Nicholas Scratch.

Or...he's been pulling the strings from the beginning- which has always been a possible option.

 

So after thinking about it:

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Lilia gave us the clue.

She mentions in this episode about "the first time" She confirmed that it's a common misconception that she talks to the dead- that was just her scam.
Her real power is time. So we gathered she was seeing into the future. We also know she yelled out "Alice! No!"
So, Lilia had been through this trial more than once.

Billy may have just pressed reset on the trial in order to try and save Alice. Maybe also to save Agatha?

The real question is whether Billy has been playing us all along.
1) Rescues Agatha
2) Begs to go on the Witches Road
3) Recruits the coven
4) Seems to be the one to see the trials and seems to be the one that starts them.

As to what he wants if he already has power? His mom maybe? His brother?
Or maybe just answers in general?

 

Well that episode might have been short, but it seemed like 2 episodes packed into one!

A couple things resolved... but more new things unresolved. And a couple surprises.

This has taken a few U-turns, not sure where it goes from here.

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The quicksand definitely didn't kill them unless they'll now be hanging out in Mephisto's realm.

But did anyone notice that Rio wasn't there?

I'm also confused about why he tossed in the 2 remaining witches. Is it just because they also valued power over lives?


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Also, Agatha did seem to truly not have control, and initially show regret... but then decide to embrace it all again??

And how did she figure out it was Billy?

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I'm 99% sure this is "our" Billy.

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I don't think it's a reset.

But it was a surprise he had his powers unlocked all along.

If he's come back, maybe similar to the comic version, I think Tommy already has too.

This is about Wanda.

But I just knew from the first episode that, Billy or not, he was hiding things all along. Maybe he even put the sigil on himself.

I'm just unsure how much he truly cared about Agatha... all along.

 

And the hard line of the episode:

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"You were born evil. I ought to have killed you the moment you were born."

Ouch.

 

When you log onto the Marvel Unlimited app first thing you see

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read all about Wiccan, son of the Scarlet Witch

 

Damn that was good.

More please. Immediately, not next week.

 

Thanks to this thread, the internet, and other social media for confirming what I didn't think the episode made clear at all as I don't know the comic book references. I will give the latest episode props for the cool Evil Dead references but that's about it. I tried to stay spoiler free but oh well. Since I was spoiled, I watched a ScreenCrush video explaining the references but like it was said above it creates more questions that I don't really care.

When I heard the name Nicholas Scratch in the episode, my brain changed Scratch to Sparks after the novelist and then I remembered the dog from WandaVision was Sparky and I thought that's a cool connection! Agatha named her son after the dog and then killed the dog! Nope, I'm dumb and it's just another character from the comics that I know nothing about.

 

I'm losing interest. I don't like or care about any of the characters, and they're killing off the ones I dislike least.

 

"That is not dead which can eternal lie / And with strange aeons even death may die"

This show is probably the least likely for "being dead" to matter. I'd be very surprised if we don't see Mrs Hart/Davis, Alys, and several others actually dead, again. We did just have our first ghost, after all. Actual mentions of Mephisto. I'm sure we will see Nicholas Scratch and Wanda at some points.

 

presumably we will get this answer soon, otherwise it makes no sense that a person who never really existed now suddenly exists in that reality

 

I'm also not sure how Wandavision Billy age matches with Teen because I think it has only been a year in universe? Unless we're doing sitcom/Rocky movie kid aging rules

I'm fairly well versed in Marvel lore and the "Nicolas Scratch" reveal didn't do anything for me because, like the Mephisto reference, it's somewhat random and hasn't been mentioned before so who cares?

I do think the reveal of Teen's parent and who he is worked well though because this is a sequel to Wandavision (and also Multiverse of Madness) and directly reference what happened in those things.

Anyway yeah the Evil Dead stuff was gold

 

Three years.

 

Midseason trailer confirms the thing

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I was just coming to post that! Some interesting teases…

 

That was slow and very very long, but at least it was boring.