Should Obi-wan have had a Green Saber?

People have said that Luke's green saber in ROTJ is based on Yoda's saber. Except Yoda lost his saber in ROTS, and Luke never witnessed Yoda using a saber during their training. I think that if Obi-wan's saber had been green then it would have made sense that Luke was wielding a green saber in respect to his deceased mentor.

 

The first thing one has to remember is that the only real reason it was changed to green is because the blue saber blade did not show up very well with the Tatooine background.

Now with that out of the way, Luke having a green blade rather than blue also symbolized him becoming his own person, developing s it were on his own. He was his own man no longer under the tutelage of another. There is a 'retcon' that I like where Luke made the saber out of spare parts that involved bits left over from Qui Gon's saber. I can't recall if that's official or not.

 

Exactly.

Luke's green lightsaber blade symbolized his coming into his own as a Jedi. It illustrated Luke's independance as a Knight of the Jedi Order and let the audience know that Luke was not just a farm boy anymore. He was a trained Jedi Knight now who was not a clone of Obi-Wan Kenobi or Yoda. He was Luke Skywalker. His own Jedi.

 

I agree with you two. It symbolized that Luke was his own Jedi and it shows that he's the first of the new and really his own kind of Jedi if you take as only with the OT. However with the PT that doesn't work the same.

I do sometimes wonder what it'd look like if Lucas had stuck to all Jedi with blue sabers and all Sith with Red.

 

I know this is EU, but Luke I think constructed the lightsaber in Obi-Wan's old hut on tatooine. I'm not sure if it was based on Obi-Wan's design though. I don't even know where he got the green crystal, but maybe it was the only color he could find?

 

It's based off Obi-Wan's and the crystal is synthetic, made by Luke

 

Oh ok, thanks for the information.

Then that case, I agree with the others, he made it to show he is his own Jedi.

 

Well to me saber colour has never meant anything special. The only rule as far as I know is that Sith use Red and Jedi use Blue, Green or Purple (according to the movies and that is what I defines star wars to me. not the EU) so wether Kenobi has a blue, green or purple saber doesn't really make any difference, except that Blue has just always been Kenobis colour I think.

 

I realize the hilt is based on Obi-wan's, but I read somewhere that the blade color was in respect to Yoda. I'm talking strickly Star Wars Universe, not technical aspects Lucas considered while making the movies.

 

Darth Vader actually commented on the fact that Luke had constructed his own lightsaber. I believe his words were that his skills were now complete.

 

I thought that Obi-Wan should have had a green saber after he loses his in TPM (modeled after Qui-Gon's saber). I'm still not a fan of the blue vs blue duel in ROTS, and a green vs blue duel would have worked better IMO.

 

Perhaps this is taking us slightly off track here, but I think the blue vs. blue duel in ROTS was the way to go. Obviously, a simple plot device could have been concocted to make it blue vs. green or blue vs. red. At first I thought that Obi-Wan vs. Anakin should have been blue vs. red, like in ANH. After seeing the film many times, I think that not only does the blue vs. blue look better in the Mustafar environment (appearance on film being the reason green was chosen in ROTJ to begin with), but that symbolically it works better too. We got green vs. red with Yoda and Sidious. But Obi-Wan and Anakin's fight is very much conflicted, two brothers fighting.

So I think that "maintaining" blue was the right choice for Obi-Wan.

 

Although Ben's saber being blue in ANH makes more sense, I would personally have liked it to be green, although that would have caused lots of plot holes.

 

like some others i didn't care for the blue vs blue duel in RotS as much as i would have liked to have seen different colors.

i think it would have been better to have had Anakin use a blade given to him by Sidious after the 'reveal' scene and Anakin pledging himself to Sidious.

Think how powerful it would be to see Anakin use a red saber in the scene with the younglings in the council chamber. Just an aside but that lead up to the duel at the end and how it would have looked at the end would be really quite something.

still i think Kenobi should have had the same blue saber he had all along.

I think we should have seen Kenobi somehow recover his blue saber in AotC, though i can't think of a way that would work without it being silly and contrived.

Luke is Luke, he breaks every rule and succeeds for it.

He's the idiot savant of the jedi, minimal training yet hugely powerful and masters techniques far beyond his experience.

Luke is so special in the history of the Jedi he could have had a poka dotted saber and it would still work, but his green blade seems more to symbolize to me a connection to Yoda/Qui-Gon than anything else.

Really though i think it would have been better to have Yoda use a blue blade in the PT and have the green on Luke weilds later be a direct throwback to Qui-Gon. It would add to the mystique that should have been created by the end scenes of RotS when Yoda is telling Kenobi he has more training for him, it would symbolise Luke mastering the new teachings.

 

I believe Obi Wan should have a Blue saber because the colour matches his personality. Blue represents calm and collective. It can be strong and steadfast or light and friendly.

Green on the other hand represents nature and growth, a colour clearly suited to Yoda (though I was hoping he'd have a gold blade in the PT ). This also suits Luke post ESB, mirroring the growth he undertakes in becoming a true Jedi.

As for ROTS, I agree with the choice made by Lucas to have a blue vs blue fight. Apart from the contrast with the red backgrounds, it does show how personal the fight is between Obi Wan and Anakin. My main saber problem with the PT is the number of sabers that they all go through, takes away the bond between the person and his saber.

 

Well, since we're on this topic, I think it would've been pretty neat if Obi-Wan used Qui-Gon's saber all the way from TPM to ANH.

 

All Jedi using blue sabers would have been dull. I don't even want to think about how it would look like if everyone had blue blades on Geonosis. And Sith already use only red sabers, and if you're thinking about Vader with the blue one in ROTS, that's only because he never had time to build a new red one or replace the blue crystal inside the hilt with a red synthetic crystal. If you think about it, he went from one assignment to the other with hardly any break between.

It's not EU. It's canon. The novelization of ROTJ shows Luke, as a mysterious shadowy figure, in the very beginning of the book doing his last-minute touch-ups on his lightsaber in OB1's hut.

Back to the OB1 argument, the blue saber suits him just fine. First, it is to contrast him from Darth Vader who holds a red lightsaber. Red and blue are opposites, with Red being the color of passion and uncalculated rage and action and blue being that of calm and calculating observation, which suits OB1 perfectly. To further emphisize this contrast, OB1 is dressed in white and Vader in black in addition to them having opposite color lightsabers. It's to show that OB1 is a complete Jedi Master in every possible way while Vader is the epitome of evil, the model Sith Lord. Luke is touched by both influences. Luke's black clothing represents that he is the son of Vader and that he has yet to fulfill his training and go beyond the temptations of the Dark Side, a step Vader had failed to take. His lightsaber is almost the same as OB1's to show that he has also completed his skills and is walking the path of the Jedi, the path OB1 showed him. and the color of the blade showing his growth in the Force and his training under Yoda's tutelage.

 

Then how do explain Anakin using a blue saber?

 

Personally, I believe Anakin selected blue in honour of his master Obi Wan. My above reasoning for Obi Wan doesn't mean I think he went to the saber shop and said, I'm calm and collective so I think blues my colour. It's just my personal opinion that blue suits his character. And as I said, it makes sense for Anakin to have blue paying respect to his master. For all we know the in universe answer could be they ran out of green crystals or that they both like blue.

 

Vader even said something about it during their time together before he brought Luke to the Emperor. He mentioned Luke's newly constructed lightsaber. As far as the color itself, Yoda may have told Luke where to find the colored crystals so he could make a green lightsaber during his training on Dagobah.

 

I am in the camp that doesn't believe "X type of Jedi gets Y Color Blade". The colors are not of any relevance as far as rank, mindset, ability or anything else. I am fine with Kenobi having a Blue blade. I also did like the Blue Vs. Blue fight. Because of the OT, as well as most of the PT we expect to see Blue or Green (Good Guys) against Red (Bad guys). Pretty straight forward concept. In RoTS, we see Blue (Good guys) Vs. Blue (Good guys) and see the craziness of the entire event. I'm glad that Vader wasn't given a lightsaber by Sidious. I'm glad that Obi-Wan dueled against the man and the blade that was at his side for the entire Clone Wars.

Carnage

 

I dont know if this is true, but i heard that the reason Luke's blade was green was because when he went back to Obi's hut to make his lightsaber, a green crystal was all that he could find. I guess Obi had a bag of crystals from Ilium and they were all green. Dunno why, but thats what i heard.
~Azure_Angel

 

Oh, yeah I didn't mean to say that all Sith didn't use Red(Vader in RotS not withstanding and there's a perfectly logical reason for that.) It probably would've been more dull, but it's how it all would've been if Lucas hadn't thought that Luke's blue saber didn't show up against the sky in RotJ. It was even blue in some of the early trailers.

 

obi wans sabre was blue in the pt so why have it green in the ot? green was yodas colour, it would have seemed like he was trying to copy the great jedi master of the time