Ahsoka Should the Ahsoka series have told a different story.

Just a thought that has been bouncing around in my head...

From what we have seen with Ahsoka season 1 we are getting a retelling of the Heir to The Empire story with the OT heroes replaced with Ahsoka and the Rebels characters...as well as some new characters.

But should they have gone in s different direction with a new story and building on Zahn's work with the new Thrawn books with a threat from the Grysk?

Open with Ar'alani and Eli Vanto reaching out to Hera or Sabine about what happened at Lothal and have a story that involves the New Republic and Chiss Ascendancy having to work together to fight against the Grysk with a side mission that involved the search for Thrawn and Ezra.

 

I can’t stand Zahn’s writing and worldbuilding, so absolutely not. I like the direction they went in. The final act could’ve been better executed, but otherwise, it worked for me.

 

Aside from some creative choices...I loved Ashsoka. I am just saying that maybe an original story instead of rehashing HTTE and the Imperials being the bad guys might have been interesting.

 

Absolutely. Anything would be more interesting than Filoni's utter redundancy and absolute lack of creativity. He took us to another galaxy only to do nothing new with it: he brought back Nightsisters we had seen before (who are all supposed to be dead), he wants to bring back the Ones of Mortis that had already died and that we'd seen before, all-new Galaxy is entirely bland, inhabited by boring cutesy toy-bait creatures and wanna-be Tusken Raiders. The fact that he never explained what happened between Ezra and Thrawn, and the fact that he did not take the obviously interesting route of them having to work together, something that would create tension and conflict with Ahsoka and Sabine... The fact that he did nothing with Sabine undoing Ezra's sacrifice, not even addressed it... The fact that Sabine and Ahsoka's entire "relationship" was established completely off-screen... It's like he actively chose to make the story worse and made the worst possible storytelling decisions on purpose.

 

I don’t think it was on purpose, but IMO the story is indeed really bad.

 

It's not as hilariously incompetent as the Obi Wan Kenobi show. It's just really bland

 

Ahsoka's story was Rebel's story; the need to find Ezra, ensure Thrawn does not return. It was Ahsoka and Sabine's mission for years. For many fans out there, this was a story that needed telling. The fact it set up so many other storylines is almost justification in and of itself.

There is more to the story than just finding Ezra and Thrawn. Even in Rebel's it was clear Ahsoka needed to deal with relationship with Anakin, which I think Ahsoka did brilliantly. Even better, the Mortis gods story is also Ahsoka's story.

So no, I don't think Ahsoka should have been anything other than what it is.

 

I can kinda see the rationale. In fairness, I'm not very familiar with Zahn's work, but I think taking the HTTE route and substituting protagonists works with being a follow-up to Rebels and partly TCW, getting at what Bibliora said about the characters. Basing more on the newer Thrawn books would change that focus and the introductory work needed. It would also likely alter Chapter 13 of Mando.

 

It needed to do more. Up until the end of the Anakin episode, it was going great, I was hooked and then it just spun its wheels to get to what seemed to be a pretty obvious and drawn out ending. The zombie storm trooper thing just seemed really stupid to me as well. If they have already defeated these guys at normal speed, how is defeating them at half speed going to be any hindrance whatsoever?

 

Ahsoka's first attempt and failure at training Sabine sounded far more compelling than anything that actually occurred in the first season.

 

It could have been better, the writing got a bit thin in places (especially with Sabine, and the heroes conflict with Thrawn at the end), but I liked what we got. It was Rebels season 5 with a greater focus on Ahsoka, and that was fine for me. Going forward I hope they iron out the kinks, but I’ll still be there for season 2.

Also… from the moment they showed off Thrawn in the Rebels Season 3 trailer, it was plain as day that they were going to do a version of Heir to the Empire and that only became more obvious when Filoni kept the character alive after the show ended. I’m into it, personally.

 

Sabine was the biggest writing failure, I think. I also believe showing Ashoka’s failure in training her would have made a lot of sense. Either in the main narrative or in flashbacks. And then the conclusion was too thinly drawn.

That said, I liked the show more than most here, it seems. There was indeed a quietness and meditative quality to it unusual for Star Wars, but I appreciated that. And then the eerie introduction to Peridea was novel for Star Wars, with a look and atmosphere that really did feel out-of-galaxy and out-of-time. There had been nothing like it up to that point.

 

Sabine being Force sensitive...and the drama of Ahsoka and Sabine butting heads over the training...was really the main negative for me.

 

That was one of the few things that gave the character story depth, though. It wasn’t a problem as a concept. It was the execution.

 

Sabine isn’t force sensitive. The force is in everything so Sabine used it. Filoni was just exploring that question.

 

This is basically a damned if you do, damned if you don't type of situation

 

For someone who isn't Force sensitive she sure does seem to be Force sensitive by using the Force to bring her lightsaber to her and push Ezra up to the Chimaera.

 

The show pretty much makes it clear she doesnt have the talent. The talent being the force sensitivity. Ahsoka suggests that its still possible for her to tap into the force because the force is in everything.

I feel like if she was force sensitive they wouldn't have downplayed her chances in the show of being able to do it. Which they did. The droid said it was a waste of time trying, Sabine said it was a waste of time trying. Ahsoka just had faith that it was possible.

Id say Filoni just opened a can of worms on this one. One you ain't really meant to think about too much.

 

Bendu showing up when she was first training with the dark saber is all I needed to believe that Sabine can use the force.

 

It was good for what we got and this show is telling us Han Solo could have been a Jedi if a jedi like Ahsoka wanted to train him. Baylan Skoll and Shin Hati are one of the best new characters we have gotten in this new era.

This story was teases since Rebels ended. Timothy Zhang would never be the one to tell creatives to follow his books, and his sense off story would not fit the show Filoni wanted to tell. This show is not about two warring alien factions, but about the return of The Empire and its Grand Admiral and the dangers around it and tease this old god like mythology from Baylan Skoll

 

I still don’t get the love for Shin Hati, she just stood around most of the show. I get t for Baylan, he seemed layered and was after something interesting but she…was just also there. Maybe I missed something that made her memorable.

 

Same as with Maul,they are the silent Assassin characters until something happens to them that forces them to be developed. Maul's legs and Shin's abondonment by her master

 

Force sensitives are not necessarily all as powerful as Luke or Yoda or Anakin or Sheev. In Legends this was a more prevalent thing. Tionne was not all that powerful in the Force...but became a Jedi Master more based on knowledge as opposed to power level Tyria Sarkin from the Wraith Squadron books as well...she had low level Force abilities but became a Jedi Knight through self teaching.

So...just saying "she's not Force sensitive...but anyone can use the Force" just doesn't make sense to me.

 

Well thats how legends took it. But in Canon anyone can use the force and be strong just takes mutch longer training.the comic with Luke training jedi explains this.so Han Solo could be on Obi Wan Kenobi level