Sifo Diaz

Who is Sifo Diaz? Which novel is he in? Is he Paplpetine?

 

The whole thing is basically explained in the novel Labyrinth of Evil.

 

Sifo Dyas was a jedi master who was friends with Dooku. He knew that the Republic would eventually need an army so he ordered it. Dooku killed him to prove he was with Sidious. He was in Labyrinth of Evil.

 

Sifo-Dyas is mentioned in LoE. He's long dead at the time of the story.

 

Yeah that's what I meant.

 

He supplied the blood tranfusion to Grevious to. (Depending on how much of Star Wars: Visionaries you consider cannon)


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Sifo Diaz was the first Latino Jedi to achieve the rank of Master.

 

(Depending on how much of Star Wars: Visionaries you consider cannon)

Some parts of the collection were written to be in-continuity and some were not. The Grevious stuff is meant to be in, where as "Old Wounds" is not.

 

"Sifo Diaz was the first Latino Jedi to achieve the rank of Master."


You stole my thoughts DV

Actually, I was going to go more along the lines of him constantly nagging Yoda to rename the Jedi Temple, the Jedi Barrio.

 

so is sifo diaz affiliated with the dark side in any way shape or form? if not, why not tell anyone about the army. also, i'm assuming that order 66 was placed into the clones' programmng all along so would that be the work of sifo diaz?

 

Personally, I think the order is something that came later. The clones were engineered to follow the Republic's commands and protect it. Yes, the Jedi were members of the Republic and the generals, but look at whose on top of the Republic heirarchy during the Clone Wars. Palpatine. He could have talked with the commanders and told them to pass on to the troops what the order would mean when it came. So if the order says their now a threat, the clone's will treat them as such.

 

Sidious assumed the role of Sifo-Dyas after Dooku killed him, so I'm sure that Order 66 was hard-wired into the clones on his order after the order for the clone army was made.

 

I thought Dooku took on the role of Dyas? I thought he told Dooku, and then after consulting with palpie, Dooku killed him and assumed the role

 

Master Sifo-Dyas foresaw the coming Separatist crisis (or at least, some kind of crisis that threatened to pull apart the Republic) and took it upon himself to order a clone army for the Republic to defend itself with. Sifo-Dyas told his friend Dooku of his plan, but when Dooku joined the Sith, he informed Sidious of Sifo-Dyas' intention. Sifo-Dyas managed to place the order, but was unable to bring in a clone template before Dooku killed him as a test of loyalty to Sidious. Darth Sidious allowed the Kaminoans to process Sifo-Dyas' order, and had Dooku find a worthy DNA template (see Bounty Hunter). Dooku ensured Kamino was erased from the Jedi Archives (but, as per Sidious' wishes, left the evidence of the planet's absence behind so that the Jedi could eventually locate the army). Sidious no doubt had Order 66 installed in the clones - Cody had knowledge of Order 66 programmed into him even before he became aware - since there was enough time between Sifo-Dyas placing the order and Jango Fett starting the cloning process to make a few amendments to the deal.

 

thanks for clearing that up Kwenn. that was my assumption as to what happened but it's nice to have it all laid out. where was all this info given? i understand that LoE touches on the subject but is the rest specifically stated or is it something you inferred on your own like myself?

 

LoE and the RotS novelization lay it all out, skunkpunk1.

 

ah, i see. maybe i should start reading the movie novelizations, they seem to have a lot more info than i thought they would.

 

The whole Sifo-Dyas thing is unnecassarily confusing, especially when it comes to the similarities in names between S-D and Sidious. Seems to me that there were many ways that GL could have simplified it all, but whatever. Its all been cleared up by LoE and the RotS novelization, but still...

Oh, and I agree that Order 66 was probably hardwired into the clones at some point, if only because they didnt seem surprised at all by the order and had no qualms at all carrying it out.

 

maybe i should start reading the movie novelizations, they seem to have a lot more info than i thought they would.

Oh man, definitely. They include all the info from things cut at the last minute and such, and give details you might have missed from initially watching the movie.

Oh, and I agree that Order 66 was probably hardwired into the clones at some point, if only because they didnt seem surprised at all by the order and had no qualms at all carrying it out.

Well, there's a clear cut answer, but it's very spoiler-ific. Wait a couple of hours until it's officially Monday and I'll reply again with an excerpt from the RotS novelization.

 

Its Officialy Monday

 

Ah, correct you are.

From the novelization, Page 344-345 (after Commander Cody gives Kenobi back his lost lightsaber):

"Yes, sir." A silent buzzing vibration came from a compartment concealed within his armor. Cody frowned. "Go on ahead, General. We'll be right behind you."

That concealed compartment held a secure comlink, which was frequency-locked to a channel reserved for the commander in chief.

Kenobi nodded and spoke to his mount, and the great beast overleapt the clone commander on its way down into the battle.

Cody withdrew the comlink from his armor and triggered it.

A holoscan appeared on the palm of his gauntlet: a hooded man.

"It is time," the holoscan said. "Execute Order Sixty-Six."

Cody responded as he had been trained since before he'd even awakened in his creche-school. "It will be done, my lord."

 

wow i always skip over the Movie Novelisations but i geuss they do give some info that goes missing in the tranision to film.

 

Yeah, novelizations are awesome companions to the movies. And not only for information, but also for entertainment-- take for example what Cody says after that (giving Kenobi his lightsaber and then being ordered to kill him)...

Cody responded as he had been trained since before he'd even awakened in his creche-school. "It will be done, my lord."

The holoscan vanished. Cody stuck the comlink back into its concealed recess and frowned down toward where Kenobi rode his dragonmount into selflessly heroic battle.

Cody was a clone. He would execute the order faithfully, without hesitation or regret. But he was also human enough to mutter glumly, "Would it have been too much to ask for the order to have come through before I gave him back the bloody lightsaber...?"

 

"The whole Sifo-Dyas thing is unnecassarily confusing, especially when it comes to the similarities in names between S-D and Sidious. Seems to me that there were many ways that GL could have simplified it all, but whatever. Its all been cleared up by LoE and the RotS novelization, but still..."

It's my assumption that Lucas purposely intended the names to sound similar to promote this kind of debate. Else he himself wasn't sure who Sifo-Dyas was going to be at the time, but the connection was there even in earlier drafts of AotC: here the character is named Sido-Dyas.

 

I read that part in Labyrinth of Evil that explans Syfo-Dias, too. But I have a different take on it.
I just can't imagine one Jedi Master taking it upon himself to order a clone army without any discussion with the council or senate and based soley on a whim or even forsight that the Republic was going to war. I think this country's going to crap. I'm not going to, nor would I have the money to (like Syfo wouldn't) creat a army to defend the country from future robot army's when our toasters revolt against us.
My take is that the explanation that is given in LoE is just what Sidious TOLD Dooku and not neccessarily the truth. I think, Sidious himself ordered the clone army as part of his grand scheme to start a war, using the name Syfo-Dias, and then had Dooku kill the real Syfo (as a test of loyalty) to quiet him.
I think if Syfo-Dias himself ordered the army his character would be a big intrigal part of the movies and not just someone mentioned once or twice in one movie and then sorta explained in one novel.
But if his identity was all that was used I can see all this happening (but I think he still should have been explained more in EpII or III).