Skywalkers, Genetics, Twins, and the Chosen One(s)

Fact: Anakin Skywalker was created by the Force (or Darth Palagieus)

Fact: Anakin Skywalker fathered twins, Luke Skywalker and Leia Organa

Fact: Luke Skywalker has outperformed his sister in terms of Force abilities

Fact: Leia Organa mothered twins, Jacen and Jaina Solo

Fact: Luke has fathered a single child, Ben

Fact: Jacen has fathered a single child, Allana

Fact: Jacen has outperformed his sister in terms of Force abilities

Theory: What if being the chosen one is genetic? The Force wanted Anakin Skywalker to be created so he was conceived. He grows up and conceives a child, Leia. The Force then creates Luke to be her brother and twins are born. A generation later Leia conceives Jaina, and the Force creates Jacen to be her brother and twins are born again.

Maybe the gene is expressed by the males and carried by the females (after Anakin who was the origin of the gene). In turn, Jaina will have twins, the male will be extremely powerful in the Force and the female will grow up and have twins to continue the cycle.


Could Kol Skywalker have a sister? Does Cade have a Jedi aunt with twin children?

Does the future of the Skywalker line lie in Jaina and not Ben? If Jaina and whoever finally get together they NEED to have twins IMO.



-The Rebel Gungan

 

I noticed the pattern, but don't see anymore to it than that.

 

How is that genetic? That would be completely mystical.

"Anakin concieves Leia, then the Force creates Luke" Etc, etc.

Besides, SotE establishes that Leia has exactly the same amount of potential as Luke, so...

Interesting ideas though, I'll give you that.

 

Well maybe not strictly genetic. But certainly given the link between The Force and midichlorians there could be some kind of Force link that is best represented by a genetical analogy?

-The Rebel Gungan

 

But what's the deal with Anakin Jr.?

And why are they continuing to be chosen?

Ani Sr. was to bring balance to the Force. Luke was the catalyst for Ani to rebalance it. Jacen? Jaina's son? Jaina's daughter's son? Jaina's daughter's daughter's son? Kol's father? Kol? Cade?

 

Well it would all depend on the relation between Kol and the current generations. It seems like my theory is basically flawed because Kol and Cade both exhibit the Skywalker surname. However, it doesn't seem like Kol was a chosen one caliber Jedi (he could be, we don't have enough of a picture to be sure) but what if Princess Fel was the female descendent of Jaina and the possibly mother of the next Jedi in line to be strongest of the order.

-The Rebel Gungan

 

So, the 'Chosen One Gene' skips a generation? Or the Force grants these guys extreme power in a pattern that cannot be coincidental (there is no such thing as coincidence, according to Jedi philosopy) for no reason?

 

Why do you say it skips a generation? What if Cade was adopted by Kol after the death of Kol's cousin? What if Cade has a sister out there somewhere?

I am just saying that its interesting that the male son of twins of the Skywalker line is always more powerful. Granted this is also operating under the marketability of male Jedi vs. female Jedi.

All of this is without Ben's legacy and Jedi Knighthood (if he survives LOTF) and without full knowledge of how the characters of Legacy are related to the current generation of characters.

-The Rebel Gungan

 

Jaina & Leia definitely have the potential of their brethren. Luke and Jacen simply honed their skills more. Think about it --- by Return of the Jedi, Luke had had enough training to defeat Darth Vader in lightsaber combat (albeit by brushing the dark side, but nevertheless). Thirty-one years later, he's done more than any Jedi in history, and Leia at last begins her formal training.

As for Jacen & Jaina, Jacen's had more diverse training over the years than any Jedi in history (a pattern! Yes!), while Jaina has spent a lot of time flying X-Wings and such. It's all about upbringing, not genetics. Which makes me want to read Junior Jedi Knights, as it may hold the key to why Anakin kicked so much arse...

 

Naw, Anakin just kicked so much arse in general. He was the Kyle Katarn of his generation (except, unlike Kyle, Ani Jr. was sadly mortal)

 

Kyle Katarn is the Kyle Katarn of every generation.

 

Just because Jacen's getting so much more attention doesn't mean he's more powerful than Jaina.

I'm still hoping she'll be the one to take down Darth whatever Jacen calls himself.

 

Since the Solo family is looking pretty empty right now, I wouldn't mind it at all if Jaina had triplets to be honest.

 

I'd be good for just 1 kick a*# chick out of this!!!

 

Amen to that brother!

 

i agree... especially since Jaina (and to Leia now as well) is being a full fledged Jedi. it was one thing for Luke to be the Jedi, Leia the politician who can defend herself, different roles but equally important. but if the girls are gonna be full blown Jedi, they should be more or less as capable as the guys... so hopefully Jaina at least does well against Jacen in their eventual duel, even if she doesn't actually get to kill him (which i thnk we all know will have to be Luke or Ben's task).

i think Allana may end up being the most capable female in the line, due to her very matriarchal upbringing and lack of any brother to compare to (so far). if all goes well she'll be trained in Dathomiri, Hapan, and Jedi skills like Tenal Ka, but with all the Skywalker potential. assuming she gets to have some adventures while TK is still on the throne, she'll be quite the heroine. all this assumes Jacen doesn't completely lose his last shred of humanity and kill his own "wife" and daughter.

 

I agree with others' points. Firstly I don't believe that Luke or Jacen have more latent force potential than their female twins. It's a matter of plot development; Luke choosing to be a Jedi where Leia did not for a long time, or Jacen choosing to spend five years doing nothing but studying arcane force arts where Jaina did not. Why it is that the boys are always chosen to play that role is another question and one it's probably better not to go into.

I really hope it IS Jaina that gets to off Jacen. Luke gets to off everything, Ben's too young and has time to develop, and Jaina...deserves it. It would be an appropriately horrific ending to this horrific tale.

Also, Sephy raises an interesting point - how does Anakin Solo, who displayed more force potential than either of his siblings, figure into this equation?

Though to agree with you on one point - I like the idea that Jaina also ends up with twins. It would be a nice nod to tradition, and in as far as Star Wars is ever required to play along with real-life science (as in, never) a tendency towards conceiving fraternal twins is a genetic trait carried only by women. So Leia inheriting it from Padme and Jaina inheriting it from Leia makes sense.

 

Luke didn't outperform Leia. Leia never really performed except in DE and a few of the novels( which annoyed the hell out of me for years). She went through a cycle of being a Jedi, then to slacking on her training, over and over until recently. I wish they would make that Tales story The Other canon.

If Leia had actually stuck with her training way back in the day, she would be just as strong as Luke, or easily the 2nd most powerful Jedi in the Luke's order.

Indeed..

 

So.. let me get this straight:

If you are a Skywalker, and you have a boy, he grows up to be a mediocre Force user.
If you have a girl, the Force throws in a boy for good measure. The girl again grows up to become a mediocre Force user, but the boy grow up to become a Force-god.

It would certainly be a reasonable in-universe explanation the the thick male fixation that's clogging Star Wars.

It would also explain why Anakin jr. died, he wasn't a Force changeling like Luke and Jacen, and didn't have neither unlimited Force-god powah or the Force to watch his precious back like the other boys did.

But all this of course begs the question: why in the nine hells does the Force only make boys into Force-gods. Why didn't it make Leia a Force goddes, rather than a birth-machine with political ambitions? And why does it seem to think that girls are so pathetic, that it ought to throw in a boy, so as to not dissapoint the parents?

The answear is simple, if not exactly reassuring: the Force is male chauvinist!!! OMG!!!!!111

Oh, how horrendous!

I like the ideak Ackbar, it explains the embarrasing bias of the majority of writers. It's just not very flattering to the Force.

 

Anakin was the strongest of the Solo children bud..

 

They don't have more potential. They have more DRIVE, more desire.
Jaina and Leia are just lazy

 

from what i've read, he wasn't. he was the best overall Jedi (balance of thinking and fighting, most heroic, etc...) of the three by far and he was Luke's heir apparent. but in terms of potential/midicholorians/etc... it seemed about equal, as best as we can tell without on screen bloodtesting. in fact all the heirs of Anakin Skywalker should be identical in Force potential, since Padme didn't affect it, so Han and Mara and Tenal Ka shouldn't affect it either.

Anakin=male, Sidious=male, Luke=male, Yoda=male, etc... and most important of all Kyle=male... it's so obvious, why didn't we see it sooner??

 

I'm sure it was more-or-less established before the NJO that Anakin had the most potential of all the Solo children. That's how I remember it anyway. However, I think they've brushed that aside and gone for "All the Solo kids had the same potential" now... which just so happens to be the SKYWALKER potential.

However, since I don't like the idea of every person* descended from Anakin having this uber potential, this is my preferred take on how the SKYWALKER potential works, using very elementary/basic/possibly disproven genetics stuff:

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Key:
S = Skywalker Sensitivity. Super Dominant
s = Force sensitivity. Roughly the average of the parent's counts. Dominant in all cases except when coupled with S
n = No sensitivity. Recessive
L = Luck . Special, does not overrule and is not overruled by anything (I gave Anakin SL as opposed to Sn to acknowledge his 'special' status amongst the Solo kids)

(Whoops. Jagged should be nn on that.)

Obi-Wan Kenobi: The Emperor knew, as I did, that were Anakin to have any offspring, they would be a threat to him.
This indicates, to me at least, that it didn't matter who Anakin reproduced with - his kids would always have the same sensitivity to the Force as him.

Hethir:As I hoped. As I expected of the Skywalker line
"Hoped", I'm taking this to mean that when we get to Luke and Leia's offspring, there is a degree of uncertainty. They COULD produce kids without the Skywalker sensitivity.

Obviously a lot of that family tree is speculation but it shows how it would be possible for Cade to retain the Skywalker Sensitivity whilst being four generations removed from Anakin, whilst Allana (for the sake of the argument) is only two generations removed from Anakin, yet doesn't have it.

Likewise, it means that we don't have a situation where we end up with hundreds upon hundreds of uber Jedi running around the place. I threw in an "imaginary Skywalker", Kol's brother, to demonstrate not only how you could get a Skywalker descendant who wasn't sensitive to the Force at all, but that their sibling could very well still have the super potential.

Note: I don't think that the above is the be-all-and-end-all. The Force doesn't HAVE to pay attention to genetics, and it CAN randomly manifest in people... I just think that such events are *incredibly* rare, and that usually Force sensitivity is passed down through the genetic code.

 

Well from a literal standpoint, it might be interesting to see that all of the Skywalkers have the same potential as Anakin so the idea of being a "Chosen One" (especially in terms of power) becomes very diluted.

 

I maintain that the Jedi misread the prophesy and it instead referred to a "Chosen Line" that would be concieved by the Force to protect (rather than restore forever and ever) the Balance of the Force. Sure, it goes against Lucas, but it works a lot better with C-Canon.