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So Humans and Twi'leks Can Interbreed

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Robimus, Feb 7, 2010.

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  1. Robimus

    Robimus Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I'm not entirely positive that this is news, but it was news to me. I had not before this seen a confirmation of breeding between humans and non-humans.

    Flipping through the latest Star Wars Insider I then noticed an interview in the "Ask Lobot" section of the magazine. Leeland Chee's exact words are:

    "Some older images from the EU depicted female Twi'leks with human-like ears. We originally considered this as non-continuity, but there is a possibility that they are part human.(Yes, you heard right. Twi'leks and humans can interbreed)." - Leeland Chee from the Star Wars Insider #115, page 57.

    This opens up a slew of possibilities does it not? Talon could be carrying Cade's lust child with this revelation?:confused: :p
     
  2. RebelGrrl

    RebelGrrl Jedi Master star 4

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    Season 2, Episode 10 "The Deserter" seemed to strongly imply that the clone's children were his, biologically, by his own words and their appearance. They were a mottled blend between human coloring and their mother's coloring.

    However, it does generally take several... erm... attempts... to conceive. While it is technically possible to do it with only one attempt or a series of attempts all on the same night, usually it takes more than that.

    While Darth Talon could have potentially conceived, I'm tending to think that she wouldn't unless she wanted to, and she wouldn't bear it to term unless the Sith decided it would be advantageous. Pregnancy would tend to interfere with her duties as a Hand.

    Personally, I think canon allows for a few too many blends that shouldn't be possible without a petri dish and some bio-engineering.
     
  3. Robimus

    Robimus Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Yeah, but as has been pointed out in LACWAC, those kids in Deserter seem aweful grown up for a Clone to have fathered them at the start of the war.

    Now why wouldn't Talon want to have a child of the Skywalker bloodline? Wouldn't that be a longterm coup for the Sith?
     
  4. RebelGrrl

    RebelGrrl Jedi Master star 4

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    Well, the clones were tinkered with for accelerated aging and we really don't know how much of that was genetic and therefore inheritable.

    A Cade/Talon child would take several years to have any real use to the Sith. These Sith did seem to take the long view under Krayt. However, with Krayt dead, what use do they now have for Cade and Cade's abilities, much less waiting for almost two decades for them to develop fully in a child? The only point I could see would be counting coup for being defeated so often at the hands of Skywalkers.

    They seem to be pretty powerful without Skywalker blood in them, and Cade's a few generations removed from The Chosen One.

     
  5. Barriss_Coffee

    Barriss_Coffee Chosen One star 6

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    Oh Leland. What will you think of next?
     
  6. Plaristes

    Plaristes Jedi Master star 4

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    The episode guide for that TCW episode explicitly states that the kids are not Cut's; he adopted them.
     
  7. Rogue_Follower

    Rogue_Follower Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    And the mottled color has been seen before, on other Twi'leks (in the Ryloth episode, IIRC.)

    Plus, the kids are four and five---too old to be his.

    EDIT: Seriously, Leland? Human-like ears? Really? o_O

    Bib Fortuna had Human-ish ears in RotJ. This is a well-established Twi'lek species trait (for males, at least.) Which has been followed in TCW and the PT.

    So I guess all male Twi'leks are human-Twi'lek hybrids, now? :rolleyes:
     
  8. Point Given

    Point Given Manager star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    If Talon was carrying a love child, I'm pretty sure that fetus now has a lightsaber hole in its head.
     
  9. Havac

    Havac Former Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you the man in charge of canon. Behold. Behold and despair.
     
  10. Barringer

    Barringer Jedi Knight star 2

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    Well, didn't the Dark Jedi exiles and the Sith species interbreed? Or was that accomplished by using Sith Alchemy?
     
  11. blackmyron

    blackmyron Chosen One star 7

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    Leland's probably just softening the impact of another "Lucas" idea appearing in a future episode.
     
  12. Hydralisk

    Hydralisk Jedi Youngling star 1

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    To be fair, its been noted by many that male Twi'leks have always had human-like ears while females almost always have ear cones barring a few sources here and there. Leland points out that it is these rare females with human-like ears that may be potential hybrids, not that males with human-like ears are hybrids.

    So, males with "human" ears = baseline Twi'lek, females with cones = baseline Twi'lek, females with "human" ears = not baseline Twi'lek/potential hybrid

    Yeah, its a bit complex, perhaps needlessly so, but no more so than three or four different types of Aqualish or magically morphing Mon Cal feet...
     
  13. Xicer

    Xicer Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Leland Chee...what the hell, man?
     
  14. Darth_Zandalor

    Darth_Zandalor Jedi Master star 4

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    Ooksy then Leland. Have fun with that.
     
  15. Gratulor

    Gratulor Jedi Youngling star 2

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    That would still not explain why they seem to be 6-9 years old. The war is in it's 1st or 2nd year, so if he had deserted during the start of the war it still wouldn't be enough time. If they had been born with the accelerated ageing, they wouldn't be older than 2 years. Unless the tinkering mutates, but that wouldn't be very good because the parents would both outlive them.
     
  16. Zorrixor

    Zorrixor Chosen One star 6

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    Well, obviously! Clearly true Twi'leks are like the Asari: they only come female. The males must all be hybrids. :p

    As for the kids in The Deserter, like Plaristes said: they're adopted, not the clone's kids. See the Episode Guide on the OS:
     
  17. CeiranHarmony

    CeiranHarmony Force Ghost star 5

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    then what the hell is Orn Free Taa? who did his partent Twilek breed with? a Nautolan?
     
  18. CeiranHarmony

    CeiranHarmony Force Ghost star 5

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    ps: female twileks have ear cones, males have ears. yet Orn Free Taa has his ear cones as long as a second pair of lekku. weird
     
  19. DarthYan

    DarthYan Jedi Master star 2

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    Lealand Chee, YOUFAILBIOLOGYFOREVER.
     
  20. Barriss_Coffee

    Barriss_Coffee Chosen One star 6

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    [face_laugh] Don't give them ideas...

    Yeah, seriously. This is either convergent evolution to the max, or they're almost the same species. If their children can have children, then they ARE the same species technically. Anyone know of any human-eared Twi'lek with kids? Because then the species guides all lied to us and Humans and Twi'leks are both subspecies of Homo sapiens.:p
     
  21. Malachi108

    Malachi108 Jedi Master star 3

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    Oh, come on people, don't be too harsh on Leeland for that. In fact, I find the idea incredibly amusing. Thinking of all the possibilities... :p
     
  22. Robimus

    Robimus Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Yes, normal rules of biology must apply to the Star Wars universe. Thats a reason to slam Leeland [Insert Sarcasm Icon Here]:D
     
  23. jSarek

    jSarek VIP star 4 VIP

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    And if we're going to be pedantic about our biology, Humans and Twi'leks share too many parochial characteristics (i.e. characteristics that are unlikely to arise as the result of convergent evolution, and thus are likely to indicate evolutionary relationships) for them to NOT share a recent common ancestor.
     
  24. Ulicus

    Ulicus Lapsed Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I. AM. A. HUMAN. TWI'LEK. I. AM. YOUR. FUTURE!
    [image=http://nous.name/files/human_dalek.jpg]

    Lol.

    Glad to have GTKO.
     
  25. Taral-DLOS

    Taral-DLOS Jedi Master star 3

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    That's not strictly true. I've heard the theory that the "humanoid" body plan (two arms, with digits and opposable thumbs, two legs, all the sensory organs concentrated at the top/front, a centralized nervous system protected by a skull and spinal cord, etc.) is among the most efficient body plans available evolutionarily. And as a result, the humanoid form is more likely to arise than more alien plans. So Ryloth, with its relative similarities to Earth (especially now that it rotates), then it's possible that a humanoid form evolved there too, despite few to no relations to the Humans of Notron/Coruscant (According to this theory).
     
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