so was anakin skywalker a product of palpatine's experiment or what?

i know that shmi was his mother, but it turns out that it was an immaculate conception. i read that he was a product of midi-chlorians and that shmi was just basically the incubator, so what are your thoughts?

 

Yeah, but it was Plagueis (sp?), not Palpy.

 

This topic has been done to death before.

There is no definite canon answer to this. There's many implications that Plagueis created Anakin, although the original Revenge of the Sith draft had Palpatine as Anakin's 'father.' I personally prefer the theory that Plagueis created Palpatine as the ultimate vessel of the dark side, and the Force created Anakin to create balance, the Ashla to Palpatine's Bogan.

 

It was the will of the Force.

If Plagueis created anyone through midichlorian manipulation, it was Palpatine.

 

Dude, that would be scary. A genetically-created being that turned out to be one of the most powerful Sith in history O_O

EDIT: Wait, so was Anakin.... Meh Palpy was so much more powerful than him anyway....

 

No. Until otherwise stated.

 

This is what I'd wish were the cannon answer but alas the details surrounding Anakin's conception and birth will be one of the few things that will forever remain unknown in SW, just like Palpatine's back ground and Yoda's species are

 

heh heh oops, silly noob!

 

"was anakin skywalker a product of an experiment?"

Yes.

 

Just to be clear, Anakin was born 4-5 years after Plagueis died. So Plagueis couldn't have done it. Palpatine might have, but there's no way of knowing as of yet.

Though I submit the possibility that it was the Will of The Force that a Sith create The Chosen One, thus bringing down the Sith through their own machinations. Palpatine being defeated by his creation, all being part of a grand scheme prophesied long ago.

 

I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss the idea. The Revenge of the Sith draft actually has Palpatine come out and say he is basically Anakin's father. This was then changed to a subtle implication in the final script.

It would certainly make Palpatine even more scary and powerful, if he was literally the embodiment of the dark side of the Force, created through twisted and unnatural Sith magic. He had a perfect body, created by Plagueis' midichlorian manipulation, and Anakin, the being the Force created to be the balance against Palpatine, destroyed it, and thus Palpatine had a hard time after that, with his clones rapidly decaying, and thus also making Anakin's killing of Palpatine more important against Dark Empire. That's how the theory goes, anyway.

I think the correct answer would be quite possibly. We have no way of knowing for sure, and there's plenty implications supporting all ideas.

Sadly, that's probably true.

The thing is, if Plagueis created Palpatine then why was he still trying to create another being, which caused Palpatine to off him?

My idea is this: Plagueis created Palpatine as the Vessel of the Dark Side, the ultimate Sith, but Plagueis was still trying to perfect the whole immortality thing, so he decided to try and create a perfect body to house his spirit. Palpatine, who had no intention of serving an immortal master, killed Plagueis, and then, separate from all that, the Force created Anakin as the light to Palpatine's dark. Palpatine then sought after Anakin so much because he knew Anakin was the embodiment of the Ashla, and if he could twist him into the embodiment of the Bogan, the light would forever be vanquished. Of course he didn't crush the light in Anakin enough, and Anakin killed Palpatine's perfect Plagueis-created body, breaking the hold of the dark side on the galaxy and thus achieving balance.

 

And who is providing said clarity?

If Plagueis' death has an official date now... then THAT clearly is revisionist history because at film-release, there was no such date of death. And the first drafts clearly stated that Anakin was made by the Sith. The GFFA's creation of man story didn't change until Georgie's "friends" talked him out of it.

No reason to submit anything. Your POV lines-up with all that was said and done on-film AND it makes complete sense. Good call.

 

The date of death (46 BBY) is from The New Essential Chronology. Released at roughly the same time as ROTS (like 6 months later).

Thank you

 

Let me preface this by saying that I have not milled through the EU for any evidence in this matter.

The reason I've stayed away from any outside-film explanation of this is because I love the vagueness of it in the prequels. There's not enough of that in any sort of storytelling these days, and it can be effective -- especially in sci-fi/fantasy when used properly.

To answer the main question ... no -- I simply believe Anakin was a vergence in the force. I think it's a simple, but elegant point of interest in Star Wars.

 

"or what".

It's not been stated and it has not been discounted, and Fandom is pretty much evenly divided and entrenched about what is true or not.

 

I say no..with a capital NO!!! he was just the will of the Force..

Anakin's story is supposed to mirror Christianity's story of the TRUE CHOSEN ONE...to say Anakin was not a "Chosen One" but "Pre-Chosen One" (from Plageuis) would SITH/KARK on the whole entire premise of Star Wars itself!! Somebody agrees with me!! and yeah i'm mad cause this has been debated to death..

Shadojoker

 

Bear in mind, George Lucas had Palpatine create Anakin in the Revenge of the Sith draft.

 

oops i totally forgot about that..yeah then again a stormtrooper was the first to be using a lightsaber..how backwards would that have been.. Luke & Obi-wan with blasters against Stormtroopers w/lightsabers...TK-141 woulda OWNED them!!

thanks for the reminder though..

Shadojoker

 

Anakin's creation was the will of the Force, which can be interpreted in several ways, in my book. First, the force created him on it's own. Second, Plaugies did it and the Force allowed it to happen(and didn't kill baby anakin in the womb), because the Force works in mysterious ways. I'm leaning more towards the first option, but their is nothing stopping anyone from believing either option or a combination of the two.

 

Yeah, but 1. Stormtroopers weren't the only ones to use lightsabers 2. These were REALLY EARLY drafts, when George Lucas was still making the Star Wars universe itself.

The ROTS draft is when everything has already been established, including Anakin's mysterious origins.

 

point made..but i still stick to my version..

Shadojoker

 

Oh, don't get me wrong, while I like the idea of Anakin being created by Palpatine and/or Plagueis, my favorite theory is that Palpatine was the dark side embodiment created by Plagueis and Anakin was the balance to that created by the Force.

 

Early drafts are canon, now?

 

No, but it supports the Palpatine-created-Anakin theory. It means it was George Lucas' original intention.

Again, I don't support that theory myself.

 

Drafts are canon now?
About time...

Hmmm. Then that mirrors the second draft where Palpatine claimed: "You could almost think of me as your father." Throw in what hasn't changed; that Plagueis taught him everything he knew and then got whacked for it... and NEC lines up nicely.

Maybe it took 48 months for the midichlorians to get going, or something.