So, where is Mar Tuuk?

Unlike the "So, where is Fisto?" thread, this a question out of mystery and not a fan outcry. I truly wonder why this villain of all get-away villains has not appeared since the Season 1 Finale.

Mar Tuuk was a Nemoidian Captain that led the Separatist Blockade over Ryloth. During the occupation on Ryloth, Tuuk received his orders from Sep. Council Member Emir Wat Tambor.
Upon the takeover, Tuuk's forces eliminated the Republic Fleet led by Amiral Dao and the possibility of Twi'lek aide became almost impossible. Eventually, the clone forces led by Jedi General Ima-gun Di were overrun on the planet below.
The Blockade was eventually defeated by the tactics of Anakin Skywalker and his padawan, Ahoska Tano. Tuuk fled in an escape pod.
It is currently unknown as to what happened to Tuuk after his defeat...

Tuuk led the Seps in space there so why didn't he appear in Supply Lines? Why did TX-20 look almost nothing like TX-20?
Where is TA-175? Where was Tambor in Supply Lines?

Discuss this issue and provide any speculation as to whether we can see this brilliant Neimoidian again. Especially since he drew so many fans on his first and only appearance.

 

He was brilliant in Storm over Ryloth. The first srs bsns Neimoidian we have seen. And yes, he should have had a cameo in the Supply Lines. Just giving one command before Dao's ship explodes ("I do not feel like taking prisoners today" or something) would have done it. But it's again those cursed 22 minutes. They could perhaps have sacrificed one round of Bail/Dod debate for Mar Tuuk/Wat Tambor conversation and space battle.

For lack of later appearances explanation is of course that the team "rescued" him from the death late on production. At that moment they were propably already scripting season 3, so he couldn't possibly get more than perhaps a cameo somewhere (like Embo, who propably shares this fate).

 

Yes. It is one thing to highly promote a character and give him few appearances (like Kit Fisto) but it is another to not give a character the star-time he should have had.
Production order or not, death or no death, Tuuk still should have had appeared in Supply Lines. Embo made it into Sphere of Influence.

Where are those Tuuk fans? Trick-or-treating?

 

Kit Fisto has not been highly promoted.

 

False. Kit is on much promotion for TCW. He is the most promoted minor Jedi and has received more appearnces on book covers, Site advertisements, and Video Games than characters by the likes of Padme, Dooku, Jar jar, Sidious, Battle Droids, most Clones, and anyone else from below the bar.
Characters with plenty of promotion include:
-Anakin
-Obi-wan
-Ahsoka
-Rex
-Cody
-Basic Clone Troopers
-Indivdual clones including Jek, Rys, the Coruscant Guard, and Gree
-Grievous
-Ventress
-Cad bane

Kit being highly promoted is a fact. Especially with TCW Team's bragging over LOG. Lucas couldn't keep his mouth shut about LOG and guess what? It's already pass by with no votes for fan favorites. Exxagerted.

Can we get back on topic now? This isn't a Fisto topic. He was just an example. Take it or leave it.

 

Was thinking about this guy. I think he has been exaggerated.

Was Mar Tuuk really a brilliant strategist? Ever since "Storm over Ryloth", people have said so. But what did he do? Going by what I remember from the episode. The Republic was suppose to lose the first battle so Ahsoka could feel bad about not following orders, and then she could turn around and be the hero 22 minutes later. It didn't feel like a battle, more like a fake wrestling match.

The Republic attacked with only 3 Star Destroyers (Jedi Cruisers) and one squadron of fighters led by Ahsoka. Why only 3 capital ships for a planet wide invasion? Why weren't Anakin and Ahsoka leading squadrons of fighters and Y-wing bombers against the Separatists? All Mar Tuuk did was call in reinforcements, and all they did was shoot at what was in front of them. There was no real strategy or battle formations. The Republic attack just fell apart. The Republic didn't even try to counter attack or launch more fighters. They just "sat there" allowed themselves to get defeated, then retreated. And you can't use the excuse, "The Republic was caught off guard". The Republic was heading into battle. To a Separatist occupied world. Did they not expect the Separatist to shoot back and bring in reinforcements to defend their position. It would have been different if this was suppose to be a scouting/reconnaissance mission. And later, Mar Tuuk allowed Anakin to crash a damaged Star Destroyer, right into his command ship. Then the last surviving Republic ship attacked with all the fighters left and destroyed the rest of the Separatist fleet. The same fleet that held off 3 Star Destroyers in the beginning of the episode.

 

^Mar Tuuk believed Anakin gave up and decided to let him bring in the ship as a way of surrender. It was only later that a Battle Droid reported that Anakin was the person on the vessel. Mar Tuuk wouldn't have understood Anakin's recklessness, as no one ever does in this show.

Mar Tuuk also likely had no idea that Anakin had a padawan. Not much of suprise considering that she isn't nearly as famous or really even matters as much as Anakin. How was Tuuk supposed to identify her?

The strategy that Tuuk pulled off at the beginning was actually a really good one. Even if Ahsoka followed orders, the Republic would still have to temporarily withdraw.

In the end, it was Anakin's recklessness that caused Tuuk's Blockade to fail, even after Tuuk read up on his opponent (which was actually a really smart move. I don't see the other villains doing that. Not even Trench did that.)
Trench sucks, actually.

Lets not forget that Tuuk did destroy Admiral Dao's forces.

 

This is probably a stupid question, but what is LOG?

 

This makes Mar Tuuk look like an idiot to me. Why would Anakin go back to Ryloth to surrender? He had Hyperspace away. If the ship had a damaged Hyperspace engine and was stuck there in the Ryloth system, then maybe this would work. And he can see the Star Destroyer moving closer to him. Tuuk had plenty of time to destroy it. He had the firepower. They had already destroyed one ship. The only thing reckless Anakin did was use a false surrender tactic. The danger of using this is now the Separatists will be justified in not allowing Republic forces to surrender to them, fearing a trick.

To me, Mar Tuuk was no different than General Grievous (as he is portrayed in TCW). In fact you could have replaced Mar Tuuk with General Grievous and nothing would really change about the episode.

Now I feel like I'm stealing this thread from the original topic. Will Mar Tuuk be back? I'm sure he will. And he will probably have an action figure soon. The episode will probably be Mar Tuuk trying to get revenge on Anakin for embarrassing him.

 

Well, not a genius, but he has a basic grasp of military tactics, which makes much better than most villains. His plan is simple but effective: keep most of his forces in reserve to reinforce any gaps in his line, or to hit the Republic where they are most off guard. Not to mention luring the Republic fleet into a battle where they thought they could win, until his reserves were ready to strike.
Plus, using kamikaze attacks on the Republic fleet. It deals the maximum amount of damage in the shortest time. Course, normally it leaves the fleet without a fighter escort, but he knew the Republic didn't have any reinforcements to spare, so it was the risk.

Tuuk also deserves props for bothering to research and understand his opponent. Plus, he did figure out the trick in time to escape.

PS-They latered the episode specifically so he could live, so I am sure they will use him down the line.

 

It is true that originally they had him die but obviously he didn't which does give a valid point that they did it to bring him back. He was a great character, and he probobly made the episode for me by how well he was portrayed.

According to the offical episode guide for Season 1:

His death scene was a memorable one. He calmly sat in his commander chair as a battle droid asked, "What should we do"?

Tuuk's answer "We die".

Now for them to give up a pretty cool scene, for Tuuk surviving probobly means that we'll see him soon. Hopefully the won't waste him in a needless role.

 

Was this thread created to drag me out of lurking?

If you count recycling his character model, they already have.

 

I know where Tuuk is -he is in The Force Unleashed 2 - in holographic advertisement table found on Cato Neimoidia- he has role of "separatist warcriminal" in that table- so apparently he has became some sort of actor or then simply captured during the war and pictured as stereotypical "bad seppie alien" Anyway i lolled so much when i spotted him there- but you're right they should bring him back in this season... perhaps he is in the Battle of Sullust... if we will even see it in the series... but there is some spacebattle seen in which has trifighters and Ventress with her fanblade....

Anakin was there to help twi'leks whose supply lines have been cut -it was logic for him to return when attack failed and try to negotiate instead-

Grievous couldn't have been there because he cannot meet anakin yet

And Trench is still great- i don't think he died in Cat and Mouse- i would love to see Trench and Tuuk together tearing apart Republic fleet...

And there is no source it was Tuuk who defeated Dao- probably- but not necessarily we didn't see him or hear about him in Supply Lines....

 

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@Mond:
Yeah, it gets pretty annoying when they have to constantly reuse character models for other star-timers as well.
Ima-gun used Windu's model(differently colored)
Lev'loa has Kit's model
Eekar Oki is a complete repaint of Nahdar
That Green Twi'lek Jedi reuses Luminara's model
Mar Tuuk is reused like crazy on Neimoidians such as Sib Canay, the unnamed Pantoran Blockade Captain, and Lott Dod's assistant.
Weequayens are reused like nuts!

I honestly thought there was more Tuuk love on here. Especially since the character's unique design and voice blended well for a proper Sci-fi villain.

 

Are you kidding me? Lazzzzyyyy. So is his model going to be reused as much as Gha Nachkt's was.

Which episode did we see his model reused?

 

Lott Dodd's aides in Senate Spy were modified Mar Tuuk models, IIRC.

 

Yup, you're right.

Really Lucasfilm?

I mean, I understand that they can't afford to make a lot of new models for each individual episode, but this is getting ridiculous.

 

Did you notice that admiral Dao is Admiral Yularens body with Jerec's head- the mandalorian deputy minister i mean- i don't care i'd rather see re-used neimoidians and humans
-than weequays, twi'leks and rodians- those models are overused among "underworld" - nowadays it nearly makes me puke every time i see weequay in the series- i like Hondo and his pirates and Jabba can have weequay-guards but seems that 50 percent of Coruscant underworld's population i either weequays or Twi'leks- which is ridiculous...

Where are all humancriminals?- there is plenty of humans among lowercity-coruscanti in AOTC now there is none in TCW- of course it may be that some areas like that nightclub in Lethal Trackdown- are areas populated by certain species and others like humans may not be welcome there- but real reason is that humanmodels are made only for mandalorians and main characters- still i don't get it why they cannot re-use those models with new simple clothes to be humancriminals in cantinas -smugglers and all- Since they also used them to be uppercity civilians of Coruscant....

Duchess of Mandalore made a new record by showing ithorians everywhere- that has to be some sort of ithorian neighborhood of Coruscant - really there were nearly as many ithorians as rodians there also episode had ridiculously many hooded people making Satine's disguise to look like a latest fashion on Coruscant- it really was "nice disguise" as Obi-wan said- since there was plenty of hooded people around... among with all those ithorians and Twi'leks... also Mandalorian looking people suddenly became common in capital

TCW made new recyclable models in season3- Gotal and Siniteen- good that Bric is different from background siniteens... but according to trailer Greedo is reused in Evil plans as "background rodian" oh yeah- maybe it's that mysterious "Greedo the elder" after all

about neimoidians- Lok Durd's model was re-used in senate spy along with 100 Mar Tuuk clones and all neimoidian guards appears to be based on Lott Dod's face

 

Not Jerec's head. Dao's head is entirely individual.

For those who thought that Ima-gun was reusing the head of the Nikto Guard from Jabba's Palace, well, you're wrong. Ima-gun's head is totally individual like Dao's. So are Ima-gun's boots as well.

 

Yeah Ima-Gun Di's model was almost entirely unique. The head was a new Nikto, and while the body resembled Mace Windu, it was an entirely recoloured one if that's the case. Also, he doesn't wear clone trooper gloves with his gauntlets unlike most Jedi.

What I'm wondering about reused or modified models is what'll happen if they go for a Kel Dor?

 

Episode guide confirms that Dao's head was re-used model of mandalorian - but yes it was modified -you're right it was not similar to Jerec

- but it was mandalorian civilian face with sideburns- i'm sorry i misidentified the model- Jerec was not the basis -but his sideburns caused the confusion

I am happy with both Dao and Di their models didn't disturb me- re-using and modifying models can be ok- if it's not done all the time- now it seems that "Clone Wars" name don't necessarily refer to Jango's clones alone- someone has cloned weequays, ithorians and Twi'leks plus Mar Tuuk -to fill the Galaxy

 

You mean visit Dorin... or just re-use Kel-Dors?- well i think Dave would find idea of several Koons bad and i think Plo's model will never be re-used without several modifications to his mask... still i don't understand why they don't re-use some models more often... jabba's palace in Sphere had not a single gran there even though first gran in saga- Ree-Yees -is seen there in ROTJ...and Bib Fortuna would be easy with all done Twi'lekmodels.... If Sly Moore would have been created for Senate murders- recolored version of her would've been great aide for Mee Deechi.... and this far only appearance of green patterned droidpilot is Ambush.....why is that so?