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Speak backwards in The Clone Wars too much, does Yoda.

Discussion in 'Star Wars TV- Completed Shows' started by Alpha-Red , Oct 19, 2009.

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  1. Alpha-Red

    Alpha-Red 17X Hangman Winner star 7 VIP - Game Winner

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    Notice the absurd amount of backwards speech from Yoda in TCW, do you? Overdone this is, I believe! Even in the original trilogy, do this so often in mundane speech he does not. Speak plainly Yoda does in many instances prior to his portrayal in Clone Wars and the prequels. These examples, I give you.

    AOTC: "Around the survivors, a perimeter create!"
    CW (old): "Like fire across the galaxy, the Clone Wars spread. In league with the wicked Count Dooku more and more planets slip. Upon the Jedi Knights falls the duty to lead the newly formed Army of the Republic."
    TCW: "At ease, be. Within range we are not."
    TCW: "A disturbance in the Force....intruders there will be....in this temple!"

    ESB: "I cannot teach him. The boy has no patience."
    ESB: "A Jedi's strength flows from the force. But beware the dark side. Anger, fear, aggression. The dark side of the force are they. Easily they flow, quick to join you in a fight. If once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny."
    ROTJ: "One thing remains....Vader. You must confront Vader."
    ROTJ: "Do not underestimate the powers of the Emperor, or suffer your father's fate, you will."

    Too lazy to find more examples, I am. But get the picture, you do.
     
  2. brainwash

    brainwash Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Yeah, and sometimes the backwards speech gets to the point that if you flip the sentence around, it still wouldn't make any sense, and always with Yoda, sense you could make.

    Here's a culprit from "Holocron Heist" - 'More to add, do you?'
     
  3. Drewton

    Drewton Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Indeed, I've found that Yoda has become more stupid and geared for kids since 2002.

    Some of his statements from TESB would sound ridiculous in the backwards-talk.

    "Remains, one thing does...Vader. Confront Vader, you must."
     
  4. MercenaryAce

    MercenaryAce Chosen One star 6

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    I think they have a trope for that....Flanderisation I believe. Not just him, but his whole species, so much that people were surprised when Vander in KOTOR talked normally.
     
  5. Qui-Gon_Reborn

    Qui-Gon_Reborn Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I noticed it, but it doesn't bother me. That is, it hasn't gotten to the point where it's terribly annoying or ruining the integrity of the show, so I don't have a problem with it. Also, Yoda obviously communicates using a different grammatical structure than you and me, so the same grammatical standards logically shouldn't apply to him. Make sense when his sentences are restructured, he should not. ;)
     
  6. CloneUncleOwen

    CloneUncleOwen Jedi Master star 4

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    The problem with Yoda's character on SW:TCW is not how he talks,
    but what he says. The demands of episodic writing call for a great
    deal of transitional dialogue, and Yoda has become the transitional poster
    child. Instead of exposing Jedi philosophy, he delivers tie ins like a greek
    chorus... "Go to Naboo, you must" or "Approaching, the enemy is". He also has
    the dubious task of closing soliloquies... "Let down our guard against the Sith,
    we should not" or "Grievous again you shall see, I fear". Yoda's quirky grammar is
    being used as a device to obfuscate the fact that he's not saying anything relevant
    at all.

    It's a shame. You don't need Yoda to deliver this dialogue; anyone can give directions,
    rubber-stamp other character's suggestions and point out the obvious. You might as well
    leave Yoda out and write in a droid.

     
  7. cwquest

    cwquest Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Couldn't agree more, the talking backwards pales in comparison to the fact he has NOTHING
    useful to say EVER, he simply states the obvious. Is this really befitting of the grand master
    of the jedi order? He's supposed to be the wisest guy in the universe.

    Im gonna get myself a rep for being the wisest guy at work by walking in in the morning and saying
    "wednesday it is, from 9 till 5 we shall work"
     
  8. Drewton

    Drewton Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I agree completely.
     
  9. DjangoNero

    DjangoNero Jedi Youngling

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    I've definitely noticed this, and unfortunatly Yoda is becoming an annoying character to me.
     
  10. MvG-88

    MvG-88 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I've had problems with this since I saw Ambush, but I've kind of started to ignore it lately.

    Incredible how the dudes that created him don't notice he speaks wrong o_O

    Or maybe he's supposed to... for some odd reason, maybe to appeal to a younger audience or fit better into the expectations we have on him nowadays :confused:

    In any case, I don't like it. It's no major issue, but I don't like it.
     
  11. XCell

    XCell Jedi Padawan star 4

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    They could stand to have him talk straight more. I think him stating the obvious is sort of for dramatic effect, with his backwards talk and having the oldest/wisest Jedi say what's happening. Having things spelled out is nothing surprising given how the show seems to be aiming more for kids. Funny how the same voice actor also serves as the narrator.[face_thinking]
     
  12. redxavier

    redxavier Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Agree completely, but it's no surprise. The Clone Wars follows the prequels, which feature an exaggerated version of Yoda speak (since it was all written by GL who very likely hadn't written any of his dialogue in ESB and ROTJ).
     
  13. Darth_Gamek

    Darth_Gamek Jedi Master star 6

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    Yeah, I find it really annoying. But at least it's better than


    Actually, that would be pretty cool...
     
  14. Ambassador Cara Jade

    Ambassador Cara Jade Jedi Knight star 6

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    I don't think it's just limited to the Clone Wars, but the Prequels in general. They really cranked up the Yoda-syntax, like it was his gimmick or something.

    And as funny as it is, sometimes it just sounds wrong. Like wrong for Yoda. :p

    But it doesn't diminish my enjoyment of them at all.
     
  15. GGrievous

    GGrievous Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Notice this, I do. ;)
    Yes, I would agree that TCW overdoes the Yoda dialogue. If watching him in TCW isn't enough, go head and play Republic Heroes. heh
     
  16. Todd the Jedi

    Todd the Jedi Mod & Bewildered Conductor of SWTV Lit &Collecting star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    Maybe one of the lessons Qui-Gon's ghost gave him in his twenty-two years of solitude was in grammar. :p
     
  17. EHT

    EHT Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    See, I do, the point that in the prequels, Yoda's unusual speech patterns more prevalent than in the OT, were. But also, I think, having Yoda say silly or useless things more often, TCW does.
     
  18. fanboyskywalker

    fanboyskywalker Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Nah. Yoda's pefect.
     
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