Star Trek's Q or Star Wars' The Force

For those who didn't exactly knew what a Q is, here's an info:

In the fictional Star Trek universe, the Q are a race of near-omnipotent, near-omniscient god-like beings from a parallel existence called the Q Continuum. They are largely indifferent to the affairs of the non-Q beings living in normal space, with a few exceptions. The most notable of these is Q as played by John de Lancie, a mischievous Q who periodically harasses the crews of the starships Enterprise-D and Voyager.

Other members of the Continuum featured on the series are Q's wife Q, their son q (called Junior by his father, and signified by a lower-case q in writing), Q2 who is a friend of Q, and Amanda Rogers who was raised like a human but eventually discovered her true identity. Fans have speculated that Trelane from the original series episode "The Squire of Gothos" was also a Q (see below).

Some episodes have suggested that the Q had evolved to their current state over time, that possibly they were much like humans. Q once suggested that eventually the humans might even advance beyond the Q.

Q is one of the most beloved recurring characters on Star Trek: The Next Generation, in large part due to the comedic and dramatic chemistry between actors John de Lancie and Patrick Stewart (who plays Picard, captain of the Enterprise).

Since I am giving out infos, I would post this definition of The Force:

"The Force" is described as being an energy field that is generated by all living things and permeates the universe and all the things in it. Its principles resonate with those of some real world religions like the shinto religion of Japan and certain Celtic, druidic concepts. As explained in the movie Star Wars: Episode I, Jedi get their ability to understand the Force from a symbiotic organism in their body called midi-chlorians (an obvious play on mitochondria.) The higher the midi-chlorian count in their cells, the stronger the Force is with the particular individual. Anakin Skywalker had a reading of over 20,000 which was even higher than master Yoda's.

This infos came from en.wikipedia.org.

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Well if theyre in the SW galaxy, then the Force is stronger, because it permeates all life...even the Q

 

The Force.

Nuff said.

 

Star Trek is a bunch of crap. None of it can match up to Star Wars whether its this Q vs the Force or an Imp Star Destroyer vs. the Enterprise.

Star Trek is a bunch of crap, c'mon phasers? Phasers stun how could they be effective in a space battle against the turbolasers of an Imperial Star Destroyer?

A lightsaber could take out all the combined fleets of Star Trek. Hell Jar Jar could do it.

And as for this Q, well the Q race may be god like but who cares. The ability to be a god on a crappy TV/movie series is insignificant next to the power of the Force.

You wanna talk a god, talk GL, why? Well God created earth and then GL created SW. How about GL vs. Gene Roddenberry?

R.I.P.
Gene
*makes fart noise*

 

_Xanatos_ sumed it up for me.

Nuff said

 

How about GL vs. Gene Roddenberry?

Only one way to settle this down... RUMBLE!!!

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Me and my friends used to get into nerd arguments over which vessels would come out on top. We'd always be trying to compare technologies (turbolasers vs. phasers, shield sysyems) seeing who would survive. I've always argued Star Destroyers (or Mon Cal cruisers) would win because of their sheer size, but my friends claim phaers would just tear through their shields.

 

Interesting pics. As for the Q, they all need to just die. I'm pretty sure that, as "god-like" as they are, they'd be nothing compared to the power of the Dark Side of the Force. Vader would Force-choke that arrogant SOB until his face was purple. And as for the debate, there's no possible way that any Star Trek ship with the possible exception of the Borg Cube could beat anything more than a Corellian Corvette. The whole idea of the starship Enterprise versus a Star Destroyer is ridiculous. Star Destroyer would only lose if the Enterprise pulled an Arvel Crynyd on their bridge.

Oh, and no, the phasers wouldn't rip through their shields. No contest at all.

 

Star Trek is a bunch of crap.

Tuvok, throw this man in the brig.

None of it can match up to Star Wars whether its this Q vs the Force or an Imp Star Destroyer vs. the Enterprise.

I'm inclined to agree, but I still think ST is great.

Star Trek is a bunch of crap, c'mon phasers?

30 lashes for redundancy.

Phasers stun how could they be effective in a space battle against the turbolasers of an Imperial Star Destroyer?

You can set them to kill or stun. And aren't you forgeting photon torpedoes?

A lightsaber could take out all the combined fleets of Star Trek. Hell Jar Jar could do it.



And as for this Q, well the Q race may be god like but who cares. The ability to be a god on a crappy TV/movie series is insignificant next to the power of the Force.



How about GL vs. Gene Roddenberry?

I dare you to start that thread in the YJCC.


Oh, and to stay on topic, I completely agree with Emperor_Windu's post.

 

Never have I seen a more geeked out thread than this one.















Besides....Q's power is far greater than the strongest force-user.

 

I feel like such a nerd for even reading this thread.




Q's would win - not even a contest.

 

they said Star Trek ! (grrrrr) By the way the Force

 

Even as a SW fan, I will try to view this in as objective way as possible.

The Force is an all powerful energy feild. However, it needs people to manipulate it. The Q, on the other hand, are the manipulators. Therefore, a fairer fight would be Q vs. Jedi, in which case the Q would win. I base this on the fact that the Q can manipulate people, space, and time, and make them bow to their whim. The Q are all powerful, thus indestructable.

In terms of a fight between SW ships and ST ships, Imperial ships would clearly destroy ST ships for the basic reason of purpose. Federation ships are built to "explore strange new worlds, to seek out new life and new civilizations, to boldly go where no man has gone before." Imperial ships on the other hand are designed to "crush the rebellion with one swift stroke." The ships of the Empire and the Rebellion are clearly designed to destroy, and they will do so in a conflict.

A ST fan might argue that the ships of the Klingons and Romulans are built for war, but SW then has the afforementioned advantage of sheer size. A Klingon Bird of Prey is 678.36 meters long with 1500 passengers and crew. Imperial Star Destroyers are 1600 meters long with 5000-37085 crew and 9700 passengers. I beleive that this spells out a clear victor.

One species which may have an edge over SW is the Borg. Their methods and tactics are rather unothodox by most standards, and their collective consciencness may overpower the Empire. A Borg Cube, however, is still no match for a Death Star (but seriously, what is?). Borg sheilds can adapt after a few shots, and block all future shots on that frequency. Death Stars only need one shot, though. The rigid, militeristic nature of the Empire will eventually allow them to previal.

That's my argument take it or leave it.

Warrior_of_Mandalore Strikes Again!

 

a bunch of folks are saying that Star Wars will win because of the sheer size of the Star Destroyers.

Hello, people have you totaly forgotten that: SIZE MATTERS NOT!!!

 

Hello, are you forgetting that more size means more space for guns?

Warrior_of_Mandalore Strikes Again!

 

The Death Star would only be able to destroy one or two borg ships. After that...the rest of the borgs would be unaffected by Imperial weapons.

 

Looking at this objectionably, Star Wars technology is primitive compared to Star Trek technology. There are episodes in Trek where you will hear them analyze the offensive capabilities of their opponents. Whenever "lasers" are brought up the villains get dumped into the "insufficient offensive capabilities" category. So it's highly doubtful that a Star Destroyer would pose much of a threat. Not to mention that Star Trek ships are capable of performing warp maneuvers in a fight. Whereas Star Wars ships are unable to use hyperspace travel in combat. And then there is the tactical advantage that can be taken from their Transporters. Even their phasers are far superior to Star Wars blasters. In the old show They could have their beam widened to take out a bunch of guys at a time. They could also be set on overload and creat huge explosions.

As for the Force vs Q. When the Force can rearrange an objects molecular structure, create pocket dimensions or create people out of thin air then it might have a chance against the Q. Till then it's no contest.

Now that I've gotten sucked into this, someone please shoot me.

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*Points gun at you*

I can't do it, man.

*Puts gun away and pulls out phaser and sets it to stun...shoots you with it*

There...thats better.

 

seriously, i only consider the kirk movies canon. the rest gets pretty lame.

 

If there was to be an all out war between SW and ST I think the only threat to SW would be the borg. Their tuff guys. Q is an idiot. Well he acts like one anyway.

 

SW is a bunch of crap that is nothing more than a fanfic author's dream, to have everything and everybody uberfied from lifegiving missiles to superbeings to, well, Mary Sues and Gary Stus.

 

^^
Isnt that what all science fiction really is?

 

Thats all many things are....sci-fi, anime, etc

 

Well I dont care what it is, as long as its good. And it must be, look at the fanbase of both SW and ST. And many other things.