Star Wars scream in LOTR?

I saw The Two Towers the other day and noticed that a guy gets tossed off the edge of the wall in the battle of Helms Deep and screams, it sounds a lot like the infamous scream that's been used in Star Wars(episodes 2 and 4)Indiana Jones, and many others.

Does anyone know what I'm talking about? Is it the scream from Star Wars?

 

It's known as a Wilhelm and is an old sound effect that is used by a lot of sound designers as a tradition of sorts. Do search on Google for "Wilhelm scream" and you'll probably turn up an article describing its origins.

 

Thanx!

 

Yeah, I noticed that right away, too. Maybe it was a nod to Lucas or at least editor Ben Burtt.

 

[color=336699]No...it wasnt any sort of nod to Star Wars, Lucas, or Burtt...like Durwood said it is a sound that has been around for a LONG time and has been used by many, many sound editors. If you do look it up you will find that it has interesting origins and has been around for quite some time




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The Legend of the WILHELM Scream

A series of short painful screams performed by an actor were recorded in 1951 for the Warner Brother's film "Distant Drums." They were used for a scene where a man is bitten and dragged underwater by an alligator. The recording was archived into the studio's sound effects library -- and it was used in many of their films since.

"Star Wars" Sound Designer Ben Burtt tracked down the scream recording - which he named "Wilhelm" after a character who let out the same scream in the film "Charge at Feather River." Ben has adopted the scream as sort of a personal sound signature, and has included it in many of the films he has worked on. He and a small circle of sound effects people, including Richard Anderson and Steve Lee, continue the crusade to keep Wilhelm alive. The Wilhelm Scream continues to be heard in new films every year.



Here is a growing list of Wilhelm's appearances....



"Distant Drums" (1951)
1) Three Indians are shot, one after the other.
2) A man is bitten and dragged underwater by an alligator.



"Charge at Feather River" (1953)
1) Wilhelm is struck in the leg by an arrow.
2) A soldier is hit with a spear.
3) An Indian is killed by a soldier with a knife and rolls down a hill.



"The Command" (1954)




"Them!" (1954)
1) Giant ants attack the crew of a ship at sea.
2) James Whitmore is throttled to death by a giant ant.
3) A soldier is struck by falling debris in the sewer.



"A Star is Born" (1954)
1) While Judy Garland tries to find her way out of a theater during a screening, a Wilhelm is heard in the movie that is playing there (actually "Charge at Feather River.")
2) Someone screams in the rehearsal record of "Somewhere There's a Someone" that Judy Garland plays for James Mason.



"Land of the Pharaohs" (1955)
Victims are thrown to alligators.



"The Sea Chase" (1955)



"Helen of Troy" (1956)



"Sergeant Rutledge" (1960)




"PT 109" (1963)



"Harper" (1966)



"The Green Berets" (1968)
Enemy soldiers are hit by a launched grenade. "That's what it's all about, Mr. Beckworth!"



"The Wild Bunch" (1969)



"Chisum" (1970)



"Impasse" (1970)



"The Scarlet Blade" (1974)



"Hollywood Boulevard" (1976)



"Star Wars" (1977)
A stormtrooper falls into the chasm before Luke and Leia swing across.



"The Star Wars Holiday Special" (TV Special, US air date: 17 November 1978)
A stormtrooper falls over the edge of Chewbacca's family treehouse.



"The Empire Strikes Back" (1980)
1) A rebel soldier screams when his laser gun dish is hit and explodes during the Hoth battle.
2) Chewie knocks a stormtrooper off the platform of the carbon freezing chamber (barely audible).



"Raiders of the Lost Ark" (1981)
1) A Nazi soldier is thrown from the back of a truck into the windshield of a jeep.
2) Another soldier falls from the left side of the truck, ripping the canvas as he falls.



"Swamp Thing" (1982)



"Poltergeist" (1982)
Little Carol Ann watches a soldier killed in a war movie after her mom has changed the channel from just static.



"Return of the Jedi" (1983)
A victim is slashed by Luke's lightsaber falls and into the Sarlac pit.
(ALSO: Ben Burtt imitates a Wilhelm during his cameo in the film when he is knocked over a ledge by Han Solo.)



"Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom" (1984)
1) While trying to get the vial of antidote, Indy crashes into the nightclub band, and a musician screams.
2) Indy shoots the driver of Lao-Chi's car.
3) Mola Ram is eaten by alligators.



"Howard the Duck" (1986)
Howard yells "Banzai!" after he knocks a duck hunter out of his boat, who has screamed a Wilhelm.



"Spaceballs" (1987)
John Candy uses a section of tubes to bounce several laser bolts back at guards, and each of them screams when they're hit - the last one lets out a Wilhelm.



"Willow" (1988)
Soldiers crash their carriage after chasing the heroes.



"The Star Trek Adventure" (Unive