Starting to really HATE Star Wars fans

Maybe it's just me but does anyone else find it hard to even talk to Star Wars fans anymore? I am so SICK of the Lucas and prequel bashing that THEY have taken the fun of Star Wars away from me not Mr Lucas or the prequels. I got it, sure the PT isn't as good as the OT but let it go! Lucas didn't rape your childhood, how dumb is that. Also many of the same people that tell me ROTS sucks also tell me that Avatar was the greatest movie ever made or that GI Joe was the good. It seems like every single time Star Wars news comes out all we hear and read are the bashing from "fans" about how much they HATE Lucas, how he robbed them, how the prequels sucked. I can't stand hearing it, is it just me? LET IT GO! I LOVE Star Wars, I liked the prequels! I love Lucas for making the movie HE wanted to make, and for telling the STORY he wanted to tell. The prequels are not that bad, not next to most of the summer movies that get released. If they are all so hated why does Rotten tomatoes have all of them as fresh on the meter? Is anyone else SICK of the backlash? I don't see Star Trek's fan base bashing them and saying Roddenberry raped them cause a lot of the movies or spin off shows sucked. Can't we just take them for what they are? Movies that are for fun, to watch and have a good time. I am a DIE HARD fan, a huge Star Wars fanboy. Has that blinded me? Should I hate Lucas? If you didn't like them find but to say "Lucas raped my childhood" is just the dumbest thing to say. How? How did he do that?

 

Well, if Rotten Tomatoes says it's fresh, that's all the credibility we need.

If you want to rant about some people in a fandom who act annoying and pompous, fine. If you're so fed up you want to hate the whole fandom, you're free to do so. It's pretty basic: people are different and won't like the same stuff. Maybe 'move on' should be your solution too.

 

Ok you got them me on the Rotten T thing (it says Avatar was good)
Well I like places like this cause, for the most part, not everyone, fans still LOVE Star Wars here. Maybe it's just the bashing people get more noticed. Maybe my fault. I just miss that "love" we all use to have for Star Wars.

 

I felt similar to the way you do at one time and had to take a break from the fandom for awhile.

As it is..."George Lucas raped my childhood" is probably the dumbest expression ever. No matter how much anyone is disappointed in the new movies or the changes Lucas made to the old ones, comparing such disappointment to sexual assault is beyond asinine.

But beyond that people are entitled to like or dislike whatever aspects of the saga they choose, in fact, I think that's one of the greatest things about Star Wars as opposed to the other series you've mentioned. There's something in it for everyone.

 

Ya, but the South Park episode was still funny.


Star Wars, all of the movies, have flaws but so what? It's fun to watch and that's why I watch them. Let the bashers bash and the gushers gush. Sometimes reading those threads is actually hilarious.

 

In any situation, it's either the bashers or the gushers who are noticed and stood out from the crowd because the media can. It just happens that way. You have your own opinion; that should be where you stand on SW, not someone else's ideas of what you should think.

 

While there isn't hardly a week that passes where I'm not disgusted by the way so-named Star Wars "fans" abuse their passion, their fellow fans, and the brilliant individual responsible for the fandom, there isn't a day that goes by where I don't get the deepest kind of joy in the universe from talking to the greatest friends I have, friends I've made through Star Wars. In any situation, there's good stuff and in bad stuff. In Star Wars, part of the bad stuff is having to contend with the pretentious morons who seek to detract from the happiness we get out of playing around with characters we love. But the good stuff far, far outweighs the bad.

 

I hear ya. I love all of the Star Wars movies without apology or qualification. I think you can narrow the problem down to two things: the internet and the media. It's extremely difficult to have any constructive discussion about Star Wars online because of the kind of people you describe. It isn't so much that I love the prequels and Clone Wars, and "they" don't as it is the anti-Lucas crowd vociferously trying to ruin it for those who still enjoy the saga. They troll and bully other fans into shutting up, so they do. The media feeds into it by encouraging them with negative articles. I have seen countless "Star Wars Fans Angered By 3D" articles since they announced the 3D re-releases. Well, nobody asked any of us, did they? And by the way, the lamestream media doesn't know and doesn't care that simply commenting about Star Wars on a website does not make you a "Star Wars Fan."

This warps Star Wars fandom into something, well, monstrous. After some guys posted some disgusting threats against a blogger and his son after he refuted those stupid Red Letter Media videos last spring--which got way too much attention from the lamestream media--I almost cancelled my trip to Celebration V. At that moment I HATED Star Wars fans; I thought they'd become literally the worst people in the world. The thought of spending any time at all with them at a convention SICKENED me.

Then I actually did go to Celebration V, after dreading it and planning on it being my last, and found the reality was very different from what you see online. Oh, I'm sure there were a few militant haters and OT-Only FTW types kicking around but I didn't encounter any of them. The people I met were generally friendly and had a broad appreciation for Star Wars. I went to the Why We Love The Prequels panel and it was completely packed, even though it was 6 p.m. in the evening and it was concurrent with a Robot Chicken panel. After I came back from Orlando, I read some jerk's rants in the comment section of a blog post about the con. He claimed that his bashing and name-calling served the purpose of "making a better Star Wars." I asked how he was going to accomplish that with movies that are long-since completed and released, by acting like an a-hole on somebody's blog. He of course had no answer.

What worries me about the warping of fandom is how it informs not only how the press covers Star Wars, but also how Lucasfilm itself handles it and how that affects the actual fans. Let's face it, Lucasfilm has not done well by the

 

are you sure they're really Star Wars fans? they could just be people with nothing better to do.I'm a Star Wars fan and I enjoy the saga,all 6 movies and Clone wars too,for what they are-movies to relax and enjoy with hot popcorn and upsize coke.I enjoy some novels too. so relax and enjoy STAR WARS,it is your destiny.

 

How can they say the films "raped their childhood"? That's just ridiculous! If they saw the PT first (which if htye are mentioning their childhood this must be the case) how can they feel that the PT was crap when they probably hadn't even seen the OT yet? And if they did, they haven't seen it in the right order!

Luckily I haven't come across any of this kind of behaviour, probably because I only hang out here with 'normal' people. It is silly though. I would just ignore it and stay away from places with those people. Hang here with us!

 

I agree. Star Wars fans kinda make me angry too. They always have something to complain about (see TCW forums... they nitpick EVERY detail, and can't enjoy it for what it is). I do think SW fans are overly critical on things, like how some fans hate half the saga and such. But, whatever, their opinion. I just don't like seeing constant bashing on GL either. It's HIS work, his creation, not ours. We don't decide what he does with it. He can do what he wants with it. Like you I'm a diehard fanboy too. I love everything SW that is put out, like TCW, games, books, and I never have to criticize it because it's Star Wars.

 

funny all the real fans of star wars find something to love in each film,be it OT or PT. Fans that just like to be 'cool' or 'follow the crowd' just like to have a whinge,I was talking to two of my friends bout the PT once,we all liked certain parts of it which were done well,this other guy came over and started going on how the PT kinda sucked and such,we just turned to him and said that it was good and basically shot down all what he had to say and he changed his tune to saying what he liked and this and that was cool in the PT,lol. simple minded folk.

same goes with the 3D thing,casual fans see it as a gimmick,real fans see it as a chance to experience the saga on the big screen again utilizing the new tech,if i had a successful film saga id do a 3D run aswell,i mean,why the F not?

SW rules.

 

I couldn't agree more, especially on the 3D part. I didn't get to see the six Star Wars films in theaters, only TCW, which was a great experience for me. So them being rereleased is a great chance to experience SW on the big screen for maybe the last time.

 

^Definitely agreed.

There's a difference between bashing and criticism, though. I think Star Wars benefits greatly from some healthy criticism, and there are aspects of the saga that I don't care for. But still, Star Wars is my passion. It'll always be my passion. And I embrace all of it, even the parts I don't care for, because I know there's a little bit for everybody.

All the hating aside, Star Wars fans, although definitely part of the "unpleasable fandom" trope, are better than many (if not most) other fandoms. In general, they're smarter, funnier, easier to talk to, and, most importantly, a closer community than any other fandom I've seen or participated in.

 

That was uncalled for.

 

A lot of people say that, because the stuff that Uncle George is releasing lately can never compare to the (unaltered) Original Trilogy. Sure, a lot of movies nowadays suck, but that just means that the prequels sorta do too. But they are still Star Wars, and that still makes them watchable. Just have to take them with a grain of salt, and ignore the parts you don't like.

For example, TFU, in my opinion, is horrible, not because its a bad game necessarily, but because it completely ignores the pre-established canon. However, it doesn't mean the game is unplayable, it just means that you have to take it with a grain of salt, and ignore certain parts. Same thing goes for the prequels/Clone Wars. Sure, they may be a good watch where modern media is concerned, but it doesn't mean that they can compare to the OT. There are also stuff that people may not like, that if they ignore them, it makes the movie better (Jar Jar, Hayden Christensen's acting, Abundance of Special Effects).

 

I'm starting to think that if we all just ignored canon completely, the world would be a much better place.

 

Nah, I for one wouldn't like that, as I am a very orderly person, and I like rules and regulations to be set in place. To be set in place and not tampered with on a whim! Because we all know LucasArts loves to do that...

 

As a very long time SW fan, honestly, I don't buy the first set of movies were oh so much better than the prequels. They're not. There just wasn't the internet to keep creating an echo chamber of hate.

--MissPadme

 

Exactly. I saw the OT on its first run in the theater in the 70s and early 80s. I don't think it was so much better than the prequels, nor do I think the O-OT is so much better than the SEs.

I think if the 'Net had been around when the OT films were released, we would see a similar "echo chamber" and bashing discussions that MissPadme mentioned.

Three years of "Vader is Luke's father!" "No he isn't!" "Yes he is!"

Three years of "Who is 'the other'? Han? Leia? Boba Fett? Piett?"

Spoilers would be followed by "What do you mean, Ben Kenobi talks to Luke? Didn't he die?"

 

That's a very interesting and somewhat humorous point that I've never considered. I guess the Internet does have a lot to do with it. As usual.

 

I agree here as well. I mean, I do like the canon and how it's organized, but some fans get way too whiny when it comes to it. TFU didn't ruin pre-existing canon, as the Dark Times hasn't even really been touched aside from a few comics and novels. If the pre-existing canon you are referring to is like the formation of the Rebellion, nothing was overlooked. It was never clearly stated how the Rebellion was formed, just that some senators rose up against Emperor Palpatine and formed the Alliance, which is exactly what TFU showed.

 

But there are pieces of canon that some things completely overlook/ignore. The Clone Wars Cartoon does it. Which is one of the reasons I don't like the show.

 

Just because some things are overlooked/changed doesn't make the show any less enjoyable to watch. Granted, I know some "major" things were changed like Ryloth and some of the Mandalorian history, but it'll all be worked out in the end, as Leeland Chee said. Like I said, enjoy it for what it is, and follow the canon you want to follow.

 

I totally agree with Obi. And as Dave Filoni says, retcon is your friend.