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Storm Troopers, man or clone?

Discussion in 'Star Wars Community' started by darthnave, Mar 11, 2006.

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  1. darthnave

    darthnave Jedi Padawan star 4

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    You see I am going to post a question. Are Storm Troopers clones or real men? I am going to piece together some facts. Okay 1st of all anyone that has played Star Wars Battle Front 2 should know that the 501st is made up entirely of clones. So the Storm Troopers in the 501st are clones. But the pilots in the 181st TIE Interceptor squadren are indeed real humans. Also for the people that have played Battle Front 2 you will recall the clone narrator saying that the Emperor decided that to stop any Clone Trooper rebellions they should try cloning different subjects for DNA. Imperial Officers , Imperial Navy Troopers, and Storm Commandos are indeed regular humans as well. One thing that gets me is that why the Clone Troopers have such perfect aim whereas the Storm Troopers can barely shoot something directly in front of them. My cousin belives that the reason for that is that Strom Troopers are all regular humans. Me and him argued about that for an hour. The reason why he belives that the cause for the poor aim for Strom Troopers is because the are all regular humans because Clone Troopers trained for 10 years and regular humans wouldn't train 10 years. But I think that there are two reasons why Storm Troopers can't aim. 1) I bet those helmets aren't exactly easy to see through. 2) If you notice in the beginning of A New Hope, the Strom Troopers completely took over the Tantive IV and killed basically every Rebel on that ship. They were aces' at aiming and shooting. But whenever the main characters are against Strom Troopers, they totally suck! The obviuos reason for that is so the main characters don't get killed. Also in Star Wars Galaxies your character was/is able to become a Storm Trooper. In conclusion I believe that Storm Troopers are a mix of clones and regular humans. Please tell me what you think and post your own theories.
     
  2. Star_Rocker

    Star_Rocker Jedi Master star 4

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    I have play BF 2 and I believe that after the Empire stoped cloning clones they started recruiting humans. Stormtroopers are suppose to be the elite of the imperial army but they suck. Clones were way better.
     
  3. -Phoenix-

    -Phoenix- Jedi Master star 5

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    Here's my theory on the decline of clones to stormies.

    The Republic needs to fight a war. Oh look, a mysterious, highly trained army has shown up just in time! So they use this army to fight a war. They win the war, and many of the clones are older and becoming obsolete, and cloning definitely can't be cheap. Thankfully, what Palpatine now needs is an occupational force. He isn't fighting a war. He needs intimidation.

    For this, he can pick up anybody off the street, slap on some armour, and give them a gun. No one will know the difference. Now, the Rebels show up and attack. There is no mystery army conveniently trained that shows up to help. The Empire uses what they have. A whole lot of intimidating, but slightly less effective, stormtroopers. Now, I still believe the stormtroopers are made up of recruits and conscripts, and clones, because not all of them are terrible.
     
  4. Obese_1_Ka-Blooey

    Obese_1_Ka-Blooey Jedi Master star 4

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    In the Rise of the Empire campaign on bf2, it states that the older clones were replaced with enlisted men, aliens, etc. There may have been a few clones serving as stormies, but most aren't. I've also read that different templates for cloning were made other than Jango Fett's.
     
  5. Darth-Stryphe

    Darth-Stryphe Former Mod and City Rep star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Since GL never stated what stormtroopers were, aside from Imperial troops, everyone, EU authors included, just assumed they were human. I think GL now intends them to be clones, because he made reference to AOTC showing the origins of the stormtrooper. If true, I don't know that EU has conformed with this, though.
     
  6. Ludo_Kressh

    Ludo_Kressh Jedi Knight star 5

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    I thought the clones die off after ten years or something?
     
  7. firesaber

    firesaber Jedi Master star 4

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    Aside from your theories about whats presented in the video game, both SW history and EU history cover this. In fact, Star Wars Insider a couple of months ago covered this topic as well. The Armed Forces of the Old Republic were indeed clones. However, due to attrition, aging etc the empire did start enlisting and conscripting humans into the military, both naval, aviation and infantry as well as special forces.
     
  8. sccrman95

    sccrman95 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    They proabably enlisted people and must have had the worst basic training program ever.


    Im sure some of the stormtroopers were still clones but most had probably been killed or died of old age, due to the accelerated growth.



    Sccrman95
     
  9. darthnave

    darthnave Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Well I do know one thing, the Storm Troopers that attacked the Tantive IV were indeed Jango clones and they were more successful at shooting than other Storm Troopers.
     
  10. obiwanmcgreger

    obiwanmcgreger Jedi Youngling

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    i know i probubly shoudent judg this on a game but in battlefront 2 they sayhow clones where given new wepons and armer and referd to as storm troops also i know that kernals and the people controling the ship where not clones i think the rest wherte
     
  11. Star_Rocker

    Star_Rocker Jedi Master star 4

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    I think the Stormtroopers who attacked tantive IV were part of the 501st thats why they kicked butt unlike the one who were defending the death star when uncle solo went to save the princess.
     
  12. darthnave

    darthnave Jedi Padawan star 4

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    What's that last word?
     
  13. firesaber

    firesaber Jedi Master star 4

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    Seeing as how Vader was present for the assault on the Tantive they very well could have been the 501st. Militarily speaking about markmanship (having been in the service) how about this for a thought. Imperial Forces were not used to organized, well led, well trained opposition. A bulk of thier combat experience came from assaulting the defenseless and unprepared. Possible thier training program was lacking in this area and as such when confronted with strong organized resistance were unable to adapt fully?
     
  14. firesaber

    firesaber Jedi Master star 4

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    Scrolling back up to what Phoenix said I think he's dead on.
     
  15. darthnave

    darthnave Jedi Padawan star 4

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    The Republic continued ordering clones FYI.
     
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