Stormtroopers=KKK?

Me and some guys were talking, and I looked at my stormtrooper pez dispenser sitting o nthe table. being as easily distracted as I am, we got to talking about how stormtroopers are like the KKK, both wear all white with the eyeholes, both hunt down minorities. (Empire doesnt like aliens and oppress them) I mean, it seems like they have some stuff in common. Your opinions, please.

If this offends anyone cause the mention of the KKK, then you are too easily offended.

 

Maybe you're crazy

I don't know if Humans were the most populous species...

 

yes, read diversty allaince, the YJK novel. its like the black panthers. humans are the most membered species, as is mentioned in several EU books. (well at least most numbered in the Republic and New republic)

Yes, I may be some crazy, but the cheeky, fun kind, not the weird, straightjacket kind.

ps- do ya'll own any SW pez?

 

I see what you're saying, but I don't think it was intentional. I picture the stormtroopers more as lackeys who are reluctantly serving the most powerful guys at the time.

 

I'm not easily offended, but while the similarity has been mentioned numerous times before, it's just more or less a coincidence. They aren't meant to be similar (and are only in a few broad points) and apart from being white, stormtrooper armor looks nothing like KKK hoods/robes.

And if we keep everything offending out of this, there isn't much left to point out about the KKK, making a comparison very difficult.

 

by all means, be offended as neccesary to make a point. I dont care.

I know it wasnt intentional, but it seems like a good coincidence. They also seems to use mindless destruction and raiding of homes.

Please use the offended parts if you have a point with them.

 

the storm troopers are not the KKK of star wars, they are clones of jango and do what there master tells them to, if papitine wanted to he could tell all the stormtroopers to go plant trees and help people and they would do it

 

I know the yare not the KKK, I am saying does anyone else see how the yresemble them.

plus, the stormies are not all, or even majority clones of jango. maybe some leftovers, but most are recruits.

 

Only what they were is a resemplance but not much of one. I hate people who go around looking at films and finding stuff like this thread to say, or the film is racisist. I hate it. No one enjoys a film like they used to.

 

Its pretty funny then that the "KKK" Stormtroopers are just the pawns for the "Black" Darth Vader... maybe some future justice?

 

No, the stormtroopers are more like the borg.
No matter how many they lose, the enemy is pursued until either all resources are depleted or the enemy is destroyed.

 

They're actually far more akin to Nazi's, who were often called stormtroopers. Look at the way they march in formation, often to the Imperial March. The Nazi's would often parade in such fashion to Wagner music.
Also, think of the general idea of an army that efficiently commits attrocities with the full backing of a dictatorship - the KKK is more of a rogue band.
If you want to go even further (you prbably don't lol), the Emperor's rise to power is closely paralelled to that of Adolf Hitler. He rises to power during a time of turmoil to replace a weak government. Hitler was voted in to shore up the weak Weimer government. In a time of crises, the Emperor declares emergency powers and names himself dictator - just like Hitler did. Once in power, we can suspect that in Episode III the Emperor will use his clone army (predevessor of stormtroopers) in order to ruthlessly hunt down and persecute his enemies. Very much the same thing Hitler did with the Nazi's.

 

well your theory is interesting there...but i don't think that it is true...lol

 

I'm thinking the stormtroopers are white mainly so Vader can constrast with them. When he enters the room, your eye is immediately drawn to him without even knowing who he is or what he's doing.

L8r

 

Someone mentioned the fact that humans aren't the most populous race in the galaxy...

Don't forget, white people weren't the most populous in the south at the time of the KKK's inception. They were outnumbered by blacks almost three to one because of the rampant slavery pre-civil-war times. That's why they formed the KKK and wore the white suits, to instill fear into blacks and keep them "in line."

But, as was mentioned before, the Stormtroopers are more of a reference to the Stormtroopers of Nazi Germany. That's also why the Imperial uniforms are gray and tailored the way they are, to show a resemblance to the uniforms worn by officers in the third reich. But the KKK analogy is VERY fitting, nonetheless and well-spotted.

 

But, as was mentioned before, the Stormtroopers are more of a reference to the Stormtroopers of Nazi Germany. That's also why the Imperial uniforms are gray and tailored the way they are, to show a resemblance to the uniforms worn by officers in the third reich.

I'll just agree with this view

 

I agree with dav305z - the stormtroopers have more in common with Nazi SS officers than they do with KKK members. This comparison is only further strengthened by the fact that in the prequels, Lucas has constructed some compositional nods to Leni Riefenstahl's Nazi propaganda film, "Triumph of the Will". There is a little of this in the OT, most noticably as you observe the stormtroopers' formations within the Death Star hangar in "Return of the Jedi", but overall, it is somewhat less prevalent - symbolically yes, but visually, no. Besides, the notion of totalitarianism, a doctrine which is more or less congruent with Nazi ideology, is thematically consistent with what the Empire seems to represent; the KKK analogy simply brings up issues that don't appear to contain many inherent connections with the Empire and its literal and figurative position within the saga. Yes, there is a color scheme which is similar, and also the issue of subjugation, but ultimately, I feel that the relative nature of this connection is unfounded.

 

I cant say that I agree with this topic- I think that white is a good colour armour for the stormtroopers, and black is more of a higher power thing, for instance Vader's armour is black (not necessarily armour, though).

 

They also seems to use mindless destruction and raiding of homes.

I doubt the KKK were the first to do this.

As for the other points, I think I agree the most with RogueScribner. If there is any specific reason why the stormtroopers wore white suits of armor, the contrast between them and Vader sounds the most likely.

 

ok, for starters, outrider462, I am not trying to call the mvoies racist. I love star wars as much as the next guy. I do not try to find racist things in it, save for strictly humor value. How did people watch movies back 'how they used to'? I cant imagine they watched them any different, seeing as you most likely grew up in the '80s as well.

I know the stormies are most liek the nazis. I read a WWII book and almost crapped myself when I read 'stormtroopers' The Nazi/Empire thing is commonly accepted, dead and gone. I am simply expressing how there are some similarites. I mean, the stormies are racist as well, wear white, and are feared and such. If I was gonna make a star wars movie based in real life, I'd make 3P0 be a Crash Test Dummy, R2 a keg, and stormies a cross between Nazis and KKK. (KKK isnt numerous enough to be a real Empire)

 

Imperial Stormtroopers = WWII German Storm Troopers

If you watch old war films like "Where Eagles Dare", where there seemed to be a never ending supply of Storm Troopers to attack the heroes, then you'll see where Lucas got the idea and the name from, except he changed the name slightly by making it "Stormtrooper" rather than "Storm Trooper".

The influence also probably came from films like "Diary of Ann Frank", where you see Storm Troopers hunting down dissidents in the streets, as well as the obvious WWII historical footage of Storm Troopers marching in formation.

No, the Imperial Stormtroopers have nothing to do with the KKK. The KKK are merely crazed and twisted holy rollers that think they belong to the master race.

 

Perhaps not necessarily KKK, but it's a guess in the right direction. The Empire resembles some of Hitler's Third Reich. A vast uniform army is something both have in common.

The fact the Stormtroopers are white, is purely for practival reasons, I think. While making those suits for the movie, it'd be too much work to paint them. So they were probably white at first, and George let it be.

But there's also a artistic side to it. The Rebels were a mixed bunch of rogues, in all kinds of colors. For contrast, the Empire would consist of very clear color patterns, which had to look real steril and cold. Black, white and grey do the trick nicely.

 

Lucas also made them white because he thought it would be novel to dress the villains in white, which up until then was the traditional colour worn by the heroes.

 

"Listen to evil_otto you will"

Lucas has stated thousands of times that the stormies are based on WWII german troopers.

End of story!

 

wth, if one more person tells me what Lucas intended, I'm gonna get 'offensive'.

I know what Lucas intended, no need to try to get smart with me. I am not asking if they were meant to be like the KKK or if it is a hidden meaning. I am simply saying there is some coincidences that I noticed and brought to light.

I know how they are much more like the Nazis.

geez, now I know why the majority of Star Wars fans get beat up at school.