"Strong am I in the Force, but not that strong."

In ROTJ, when Luke tells Master Yoda that he can't die, Yoda says, "Strong am I in the Force, but not that strong." So from what I understand, Anakin was supposed to be more powerful than Yoda. If he did not sustain injuries in ROTS, could he actually save himself and/or Padme from dying? Yoda is supposed to be one of the most powerful Jedi. If he is "not that strong" to not die, then Palps was right about saving people from dying. What's your feelings?

 

I think Yoda wanted to die. Ankin is stronger than Yoda and if he was not screwed up on Mustafar then he would have saved everybody like you said.

 

He wanted to die, that's for sure... The only reason he kept himslef alive is to train Anakin's offspring to become a jedi. Now, he completed that task so he could die. Reason why he's saying that line is, in my opinion, that he doesn't want to tell Luke about great secrets of the Force, aka cheating the death and imortality. Maybe he thought, that if Luke know about that power, they could twist his mind like Anakin's so he could fell to the dark side...

 

It's not canon...yet that the ability to cheat death Palpatine was referring to was real. Until Lucas clarifys things, we must assume Yoda was just trying to help Luke understand that death was merely a natural part of life.

 

we must assume Yoda was just trying to help Luke understand that death was merely a natural part of life.

Exactly. As Yoda says, until he confronts Vader he is not yet a Jedi. He is not yet ready to learn the secrets of immortality, only when he has made the choice is he ready to learn such knowledge.

 

he said to look that he want to die with the sleep for ever line, he want to rest after 800 years of work...

 

It was just his time to go. He thought Luke what he need to know there was nothing left.

 

Yoda's purpose had been served, simular to Gandalf in Return Of The King

 

I always thought it was Yoda's wicked little sense of humor. I thought he was saying that no matter how powerful someone becomes, they still can't escape death.

Personally, I thought Palpatine was leading Anakin on with all that talk of cheating death.

 

I think it meant that Yoda was not powerful enough to avoid death, and he was about to die.

 

yoda was old, he started luke on his jedi training, it was not more yoda could teach luke..luke had to confront vader to complete his jedi training..yoda had no more meaning in the saga..except teaching anikan how to retain his identity by using the force

 

But what about the fact that at the end of ROTS, Yoda tells Obi Wan that you can learn the power of immortality (ie coming back as a spirit to those who are in tune with the force)

 

I think Yoda was indeed ready to die, and I've always interpreted the scene to mean that Yoda - powerful as he is - cannot escape himself. I suppose, if you think of it another way, Yoda didn't exactly "die" in the biological sense because he became one with the Force - to "forever sleep." Yoda persevered in life to ensure that Luke could get to the point from where he could take care of himself, and Yoda would then willingly pass on to the Force to join Obi-Wan and, presumably, Qui-Gon.

 

Yoda is old and had trained so many jedis over his long life. He felt that training Luke to become a Jedi was the last thing he wanted to do. Luke will confront Vader and Palpatine and destroyed them for the sake of the Rebellion. Luke said he was ready to confront them and Yoda has done everything he can do for the boy and now having no where else to go in his so old age he just wanted to die and become one with the force.

 

Is there a religious link here?

Yoda - "Strong am I in the force, but not that strong"

Jesus in the Garden of Gethsemane - "The spirit is willing but the flesh is weak" (the disciples fell asleep).

Maybe its just a coincidence?