Suicide in Star Wars?

There's been a recent thread about sex in SW, and a few rumours hinting that we can expect to see suicides in upcoming books. Is this appropriate? I'm all for reality in a sci-fi series, but suicide is just dark, man.

 

It says in the Dark Forces: Rebel Agent novel that the Brotherhood of Darkness comitted mass suicide in the Valley of the Jedi, trapping the force energy of good jedi along with them.

 

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When Jaina and Tenel Ka and company go to Hapes Ta Chume stages an assassination for Tenienal Djo that makes it look like a suicide. The attack fails, and I wont spoil you guy any more...








































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In Hand Solo Trilogy, Moff Sarn Shild commits suicide after the battle of Nar Shadda when the Emperor summoned him.

 

In paradise snare bria tharen tried to commit suicide on coruscant by leaning to far over edge of a building. But han pulled her back.

 

Suicide is definatley a sensitive subject but handled well it can lead to powerful stories.

It's an arguable point that obi-wan commited suicide by refusing to fight in the first film,
and Luke himself was only saved from the same fate by Leia.

 

Is it considered suicide if, in a situation where someone's going to kill someone else, you save them by taking the bullet or whatever? Because you wouldn't have died but for your benevolent act, yet you didn't directly kill yourself either...

 

Since you knowingly and actively sacrificed yourself...i would say yes it does qualify......


i think it can be used but should be treated well and taken seriously...if its just for a plot device that blows over in a single book i would say to find a different way...although if it isn't an acualy one then its ok (i'd have to more than triple the size of this post with blank space to explain so i shant)...

 

Obi-Wan's death, or any act of becoming a martyr or sacrificing yourself for the good of others is call altruistic suicide. Killing yourself because you can't cope with drastic changes to your life is called anomic suicide. These were defined by sociologist Emile Durkheim.

 

AS long as its handled well, and not gratuitous and unecessary, i say its fine. And its not too graphic.

That kindof applies to sex too, if you think about it.

 

Off hand I can think of a couple more altruistic suicides, is this something jedi are especially vulnerable to?
Seeing as their close link with the force and other jedi could make them loose a sense of individuality.
So much that they'll gladly (almost too willingly) give their life for others.

 

Suicide has been used as a story technique in numerous plays and books throughout history. Since Star Wars has always taken ideas from older stories and myths, I wouldn't consider it inappropriate for the GFFA. However, as noted, it should only be used when beneficial to the plot.

 

If someone kills him/herself out of pity for him/herself, I wouldn't consider it appropriate. Sacrificing oneself would be very different.

 

I read somewhere that Tahiri was the person that would commit suicide in DJ. I certainly hope that George Lucas would not permit a 15 year old to commit suicide!!! Tahiri will unquestionably be distrait over Anakin's death but I would expect that her friends would watch over her (as Wedge has done in the WS books.) The member of the strike team need grief counseling.
There are numerous scenarios that can be incorporated to assist Tahiri through this time. If the story line needs to have her die (as part of Ikrit's prophesy) then there are countless ways to accomplish her demise without having the poor girl commit suicide. I can see Tionne and Kam taking care of Tahiri, she is like the daughter that they never had.
I have a 15 yr. old daughter and I can write a more lengthy post regarding what I have tried to instill in her about feelings of hopelessness. Our Faith, Hope, and Love will over come all obstacles. I haven't seen any in-depth Jedi philosophy "religion" that helps them through times of crisis. Fear, anger, jealous, and hate lead to the dark side BUT how do you deal with these emotions isn't addressed. (AT least not to the reader's knowledge.)

 

I have always interpreted the scene in ESB, at Cloud City where Luke falls off the catwalk as an attempted suicide. He choose to die rather than succumb to his father. Actually he does so twice. He makes the same choice in ROTJ by refusing to fight, when he knew it meant imminent death to do so.

 

I have always interpreted the scene in ESB, at Cloud City where Luke falls off the catwalk as an attempted suicide. He choose to die rather than succumb to his father. Actually he does so twice. He makes the same choice in ROTJ by refusing to fight, when he knew it meant imminent death to do so.

That's not exactly true... from a certain point of view. Luke had the choice -- give himself over to the Dark Side and give up everything he fought for and believed in, or condemn himself to almost certain death. In one sense, as Obi-Wan said, turning over to the Dark Side would mean that the good man who was Luke Skywalker would cease to exist anyways. So it was "death" either way (Dark Empire notwithstanding). So considering Luke felt that either choice Darth Vader was offering him was death, it's not really suicide, per se... just more of a I'd rather die and stand up for what I believe in rather than "dying" ignobly like a craven coward. =)

 

Leonia Tavira's husband also committed suicide after he was paralyzed, but it was only mentioned, didn't actually happen... unless it happened in a comic... comic experts, help?

Ara
(I hate life. But i love to exist, so no suicide in my future...)