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  1. Kung-Fu-Yoda

    Kung-Fu-Yoda Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I was wondering...Kamino is supposed to be a planet were the rain never stops, there's always a ragging storm. Well, that's just not possible. First off, if the sun never shone on Kamino, then the planet would go into an ice age, and all life on the planet would die, and the water would freeze over. And, if there was constant raining, then the cities would be inundated (flooded) with water, and would again freeze, again kill everything. And if there was no sun, then there would be no night and day, which there has to be. Other planets on the outer rim have sunlight/seasons, therefore, why shouldn't Kamino. If there was no Sun, then there would be no way to determine time. Thus the sun must eventually shine on Kamino. Thoughts, Input, Feedback? Is this a mini-plothole? BTW another quick question: Are Kaminoans aquatic creatures? They ride the Aywa (sp?, flying sea-creature)under water?

    -Yoda ;)

    P.S. 400th post!!! :)
     
  2. xie

    xie Jedi Knight star 5

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    Kaminho.

    Is that what they're calling them these days?

    Since when have the laws of Earth applied to the GFFA? Please cite me one example.
     
  3. CarbonKnight

    CarbonKnight Jedi Youngling star 4

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    No, no. See the clouds always cover Kamino but that doesn't mean there is no heat. I mean, at night time on Earth we don't see the sun or any light, yet it's still not 40 below outside.

    Plus when there are clouds or a hurricane covering a large body of water, it doesnt suddenly freeze, as there is always some heat.
     
  4. Kung-Fu-Yoda

    Kung-Fu-Yoda Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Since when does a planet function without the sun? Site me an example. All SW Planets have a sun.

    -Yoda ;)
     
  5. Ret

    Ret Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    "Thus the sun must eventually shine on Kamino. "

    Not really. Like he said above me. That's just how things are in this galaxy. Look at Hoth.
     
  6. Jake_Barnes

    Jake_Barnes Jedi Padawan star 4

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    "First off, if the sun never shone on Kamino, then the planet would go into an ice age, and all life on the planet would die, and the water would freeze over."

    Just for the record, light from the sun does penetrate cloud cover. I think your confusing normal clouds with the nuclear winter scenario, and in those, the sun is blocked out by the amount of ash and dirt in the atmosphere as a result of a few thousand nuclear warheads being detonated.
     
  7. xie

    xie Jedi Knight star 5

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    We've seen what... 7 planets?

    Tatooine
    Coruscant
    Endor [Moon]
    Naboo
    Geonosis
    Kamino
    Alderran (From space)
     
  8. Kung-Fu-Yoda

    Kung-Fu-Yoda Jedi Padawan star 4

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    There is heat, but no sun. If our sun was always covered by clouds, it would be awfully hard for some species (including us) to thrive. And, if there is no sun on Kamino, how do they distinguish time, and does Kamino have seasons? And are Kaminoans aquatic creatures? We've seen like 7 planets, ALL HAVE A SUN!!! Tell me, how does a planet function without a sun?

    -Yoda ;)
     
  9. xie

    xie Jedi Knight star 5

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    And, if there is no sun on Kamino, how do they distinguish time

    Obviously EU, but many planets set their chronos to Coruscant Time, as to be "awake" with the Galaxy's capital planet.
     
  10. Kung-Fu-Yoda

    Kung-Fu-Yoda Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Hoth's atmosphere was open to the sun, Kamino's is not! There may not be an ice age, but I would be pretty damn cold. How does a planet function witout a sun? PS, about the republic chrono's thing, correct me if I'm wrong, but KAMINO ISNT IN THE REPUBLIC!!!

    -Yoda ;)
     
  11. MobartZmuda

    MobartZmuda Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Next thing you'll tell me "lightsabers" can't actually exist ;)
     
  12. xie

    xie Jedi Knight star 5

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    about the republic chrono's thing, correct me if I'm wrong, but KAMINO ISNT IN THE REPUBLIC!!!

    So they're not allowed to set their clocks to Coruscant time?

    Maybe they have an orbital station that watches the sun. Or they just go up in a little ship and look where it is.
     
  13. Jake_Barnes

    Jake_Barnes Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Kung-Fu-Yoda, where do you get the impression that Kamino has no sun?
     
  14. DarthKano

    DarthKano Jedi Youngling star 1

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    How come Tattoine has two suns?
    It's the SW universe, GL can make it the way he wants, there are even cities that exist on meteorites and layers of city that go underground on Coruscant.
     
  15. Kung-Fu-Yoda

    Kung-Fu-Yoda Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I don't think it dosen't have a sun, It's just not visible from Kamino...

    -Yoda ;)
     
  16. Well_Of_Souls

    Well_Of_Souls Jedi Master star 5

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    Not all planets and lifeforms must conform to earth's conditions, or any planet in SW for that matter (especially considering the GFFA is made up).

    Perhaps Kamino is heated by its core, or the cloud cover is not thick enough to keep out the sun's heat. The light from the sun is not the only thing that gives off heat, there's also radiation.

    Or, perhaps, the rain is not always falling. We only saw Kamino for a short amount of time.
     
  17. CarbonKnight

    CarbonKnight Jedi Youngling star 4

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    Q: How come Tatooine doesnt have two shadows, huh?

    A: It doesn't mattuh!
     
  18. Jake_Barnes

    Jake_Barnes Jedi Padawan star 4

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    "And if there was no sun, then there would be no night and day, which there has to be."

    Er... How do you know that it's daytime on a cloudy day on Earth? Do you have to look at your watch?
     
  19. jedi_master_ousley

    jedi_master_ousley Force Ghost star 8

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    Just because Kamino is rain planet, doesn't mean the sun doesn't shine. On earth, at times the sun shines while it's raining. This forms a rainbow.

    BUT, in the AotC novel, Lama Su tells Obi Wan he is glad he came during the best part of the year.

    And just because Coruscant is the center of the galaxy, that doesn't mean they can't set their time to it. They can do whatever they want. They could set it with Tatooine time for all know.
     
  20. CarbonKnight

    CarbonKnight Jedi Youngling star 4

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    Or, perhaps, the rain is not always falling. We only saw Kamino for a short amount of time.

    There could also be a significant amount of land on Kamino, a land to water ratio to rival Earth's. I mean, we do only see a portion of the planet.

    I dare anyone to prove me wrong here.
     
  21. MobartZmuda

    MobartZmuda Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I double dare you to prove that your wrong 8-}
     
  22. foxbatkllr

    foxbatkllr Jedi Knight star 6

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    The answer is in Kamino's oceans itself. Oceans (and water in general) moderate temperature. Think of the coastline here on earth. The climate on a coastal city is very constant while the climate in the middle of the country can range from freezing to really hot. The waters of Kamino maintain a relatively unchanging temperature. There is no doubt it is cold on Kamino, but it is not uninhabitable. The heat from the sun (which penetrates clouds) warms the waters just enough to counter any danger of completely freezing.

    Edit: Just wanted to add that yes, I'm aware of other factors such as winds and latitude, but oceans do have a temperature moderating effect.
     
  23. Jake_Barnes

    Jake_Barnes Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Yes, but foxbat, your response is based too much on making sense and some kind of understanding about the world. Argumentation in this thread is founded on absurdity.

     
  24. Kung-Fu-Yoda

    Kung-Fu-Yoda Jedi Padawan star 4

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    "The answer is in Kamino's oceans itself. Oceans (and water in general) moderate temperature. Think of the coastline here on earth. The climate on a coastal city is very constant while the climate in the middle of the country can range from freezing to really hot. The waters of Kamino maintain a relatively unchanging temperature. There is no doubt it is cold on Kamino, but it is not uninhabitable. The heat from the sun (which penetrates clouds) warms the waters just enough to counter any danger of completely freezing.

    Edit: Just wanted to add that yes, I'm aware of other factors such as winds and latitude, but oceans do have a temperature moderating effect."

    -foxbatkllr

    ur probably right, but are Kaminoans aquatic creatures?

    -Yoda ;)
     
  25. Padme Bra

    Padme Bra Administrator Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Excuse my ignorance but who ever (in the film) said that Kamino was constantly dark and covered with storms? Maybe it was just might time and raining when Obi Wan arrived.
     
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