Super Star Destroyer's Super Obvious Weakness

I recently rewatched Return of the Jedi, which I love (primarily for the last half of the movie), and I realized that for all the greatness in the climax, the destruction of the Super Star Destroyer seems kind of tacked on.

It just seems odd to me that all it takes to take down a Super Star Destroy is two small ships to shoot a couple of lasers into a shield generator, and suddenly the bridge becomes vulnerable.

Anyone else feel kind of let down by this?

 

Did you not hear Akbar say "Concentrate all fire power on that super star destroyer"?

The Executor, however powerful it was, could not withstand the fire power of the majority of the Rebel Fleet, its shields failed and two opourtunistic fighters took advantage by knocking out a SENSOR GLOBE.

Sensors not working to full effeciency, an A-Wing managed to fly thgrough the anti-starfighter fire and impact on the Bridge, all command staff and the Navigation computers were obliterated.
The Executor was unable to counter-act the gravity of the Death Star II, impacted on the surface in spectacular fashion.

The Executor went down, not because it was 'easy' but by a combination of the Rebels overwhelming fire power and pure bad luck.

 

^what he said.

 

The Emperor never counted on Lando's tactic of nose-to-nose engagement.

It was assumed that the fearsome sight of the armada would prevent the Rebels from heading in that direction.

With Lando's brazen tactics, and those Imperial dum-dums being unable to override the Emperor's standing orders ("Don't attack, just stand here and look intimidating,") they were done for.

Lando's decision to confront the Star Destroyers, thereby preventing the Death Star from firing in that direction, is my favorite part of E6.

Surprising that those know-nothings on the Death Star didn't fire at the Rebels anyway, vaporizing their own Star Destroyers in the process.

 

But if the Rebels were coming to them, then why should Piett move the fleet?

Just gives him longer to fire at incoming vessels and whats so much better bout being up close to the Imperial Fleet. An Imp II at a few km is as bad if not better than an Imp II at a few hundred meters?

Just means its easier for the Imps to hit the Rebels capital ships harder and faster.

Empire lost Endor through bad luck and the Emporers arrogance.

 

Darth_Howell_III posted on 3/22/05 10:18am

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The Emperor never counted on Lando's tactic of nose-to-nose engagement.

It was assumed that the fearsome sight of the armada would prevent the Rebels from heading in that direction.

With Lando's brazen tactics, and those Imperial dum-dums being unable to override the Emperor's standing orders ("Don't attack, just stand here and look intimidating,") they were done for.

Lando's decision to confront the Star Destroyers, thereby preventing the Death Star from firing in that direction, is my favorite part of E6.

Surprising that those know-nothings on the Death Star didn't fire at the Rebels anyway, vaporizing their own Star Destroyers in the process.

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Howell, again, Palpatine didn't order the fleet to "just stand there and look intimidating". He ordered the fleet to stop the Rebels from escaping.

If you watch the film the Star Destroyers fight back.

If Petit didn't have permission to fire as you claim, then how were they going to stop the Rebels from escaping? A stern warning?

Petit: "Stop, or we'll say stop again!"

 

The only thing that has ever bothered me is the FX shot of the SSD exploding. It was just bad. If a ship that big crashed into, well the DSII, there would be smaller chain reaction type explosions traveling up the length of the SSD, as it crumpled down into the DSII before a final huge fireball consumed it when the power plant went up. Not just a spout of fire out of the side of the DSII as we get to see.


GL mucks around w/the sarlacc, which was just fine, and he ignores one of the worst FX shots in SciFi history.

 

Ironically enough I was thinking the exact same thing the other day. It really does need changing. Athough, it would probably cause significant damage to the Death Star so that's probably why it's the way it is.

 

I was thinkin. Have any of you seen the distance between DS2 and that Super star destroyer. Suddenly destroyer moves next to the ds2 and crashes.

 

That's where it always was. It hadn't moved since the rebels flew past.

 

Yeah, I was kind of disappointed by it. I realize there were a number of lucky breaks for the Rebels that all combined to make the destruction of the Executor possible, but damn, was that a sucky way for her to go!

I don't think I'll ever get over my feelings on this. I was traumatized by RotJ.

 

It's the fall of the Empire. It has to be visually epic. Just the DS2 blowing up is not enough. I have never had a problem with the Executor's demise nor do I have any problem with Jedi, except for Hayden being inserted, prefer Sebastian Shaw but that's another topic all together.

 

It wasn't a 'sensor' globe that was destroyed, but a deflector shield generator.

Yes, the rebel fleet helped keep the SSD busy, but remember folks, these Star Wars movies are based also in myth.

'David and Goliath' for example. The A-Wings took down the giant, a certain tactial irony.

Of course its also a truism about taking down a big dude by 'kicking 'em in the balls'

 

Go and see the film again. First SSD if kind a far from DS2 (blockin rebels) but when it blows up, it crashes to DS2. All the time when space fight goes on DS2 if far on the background.

 

I don't know if you watched the Death Stars blow up, but they were destroyed by ONE fighter (well, two in the case of the second Death Star).

Besides, the Empire didn't invest in collision insurance. They certainly paid the price.

They crashed ships in ESB, the TIE fighters collided in ANH, if I was on an Imperial ship I'd buy airbags.

 

Lando's tactic and the Battle of Endor in general just proved the mighty Imperial Starfleet has a big glass jaw.

 

Poor poor innocent Super Star Destroyer.

//displays "Save the Executor" placard

 

They gave it the wrong-sized shield generators. Mechanics couldn't agree on just how long the ship was.

"It's Super-class!" "It's Executor-class!"

 

If Palpatine's anything to go by then it's a Commandship, not a Super Star Destroyer.

 

Ya but who are you going to believe a talking fish or a Sith Lord?

 

Ya but who are you going to believe a talking fish or a Sith Lord?

Ohh, that damned fish man and his equally damned Reb slang. He's the cause for everyone calling it a "Super Star Destroyer"! If I were to believe anyone, then it would be the guy who runs the Empire, the guy who set it up, and the guy who owns the Executor itself...Emperor Palpatine, not some giant talking mackerel!

 

"It just seems odd to me that all it takes to take down a Super Star Destroy is two small ships to shoot a couple of lasers into a shield generator, and suddenly the bridge becomes vulnerable."

The real question is, if a Star Destroyer has shield generators, then wouldn't they also be protected by the Shields, and if so, then how is it that the Rebels can destroy the Shield generators?


D_M_S_L

 

I always thought that the A-wings fired concussion missles which could go through shields.