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Symbol of the Galactic Alliance?

Discussion in 'Literature' started by AdmiralNick22 , Nov 19, 2003.

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  1. AdmiralNick22

    AdmiralNick22 Retired Fleet Admiral star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Hello all.

    As I re read TUF, I got to thinking? What is the symbol that was chosen to represent the GFFA?

    Does it have that famous symbol that was used by the Old Republic, Rebel Alliance, and New Republic?

    [image=http://www.galacticempiredatabank.com/rebelsim.jpg]

    Personally, I hope so. That unique aymbol is instantly recognizable by all fans, and should continue to be used in the GFFA.

    So, does anyone know if the Galactic Alliance will continue to use this beloved symbol?
     
  2. Master_Starwalker

    Master_Starwalker Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I also hope that the Galactic Federation of Free Alliances uses the instantly recognizable Rebel Alliance emblem. By the way the Old Republic used a logo similar to the Imperial Logo not the Rebellion's logo.

    -Jedi Master Zax Starwalker
     
  3. Knight1192

    Knight1192 Jedi Knight star 6

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    I believe the symbol of the New Republic actually took the symbol of the Alliance in blue and added a circle of blue stars around it.
     
  4. ATimson

    ATimson Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    a) It was the Jedi who used the Imperial-ish logo; the Republic logo was the thingie on Valorum's staff.

    b) I'd expect for the GFFA (why'd it keep getting referred to as the Galactic Alliance, anyways? Shouldn't it be the Galactic Federation?) to keep the Rebel logo, simply because then the era symbol would be confusing. :D
     
  5. Matthew Trias

    Matthew Trias Force Ghost star 6

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    The OR also used the crest symbol according to some old WEG source.
     
  6. Senator_Elegos_A-Kla

    Senator_Elegos_A-Kla Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    The Seal of the Republic looks like this. It can be seen on the Chancellor's podium in TPM. Except for the shell-looking thing, just picture the Imperial Seal without it's outer circle in it's place.

    [image=http://www.starwars.com/databank/organization/galacticrepublic/img/bts_sm.jpg]
     
  7. Genghis12

    Genghis12 Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Right, and it would be extremely poor judgement to use the Rebel Alliance symbol (and any of it's New Republic offspring variations) given that that 1) the group was a paramilitary terrorist organization and 2) you'd pretty much piss off your other equal members of the Alliance who are have no ties to that group.

    And if they ever wish to court the Imperial Remnant and/or former Imperials as allies, then that symbol is nothing more than a slap in the face to them.

    Going back to using a variation on the symbol of the Republic would be the far better approach to take.
     
  8. Thrawn McEwok

    Thrawn McEwok Co-Author: Essential Guide to Warfare star 6 VIP

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    I'd suspect that since they're claiming to be a truly Galactic government, they'll use a stylized Galaxy of some sort or another... ;) :cool: [face_mischief]

    - The Imperial Ewok
     
  9. AdmiralNick22

    AdmiralNick22 Retired Fleet Admiral star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    While the Rebel symbol has not yet turned up in the Prequels, the old WEG sourcebooks used to say that the Rebellion got its crest from the Old Republic.

    I guess that has been changed since then.

    Genghis12:

    Why would it piss off anyone? Remember, the Galactic Alliance is only a collection of former NR worlds. The Imperial Remnant, Hapans, Hutts, etc are all just allies of the GA, not members.

    Personally, if the GA used that symbol, it would be a form of continuity.
     
  10. Genghis12

    Genghis12 Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Nick,
    Why even begin to piss off your allies, or people you're trying to get as allies.

    In a Galactic Federation of Free Alliances, the former Rebellion (Alliance of Free Planets, New Republic, etc.) is but an equal partner among several.

    And if they're courting anyone with Imperial ties, then they'd best be aware of the feelings that the symbol of the Rebellion holds for those who believed in the good of the Galactic Empire, but not necessarily its leaders.
     
  11. Valiento

    Valiento Jedi Knight star 7

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    LFL will probably just end up giving them the NJO symbol;

    [image=http://www.starwars.com/eu/news/2000/10/img/njoicon.gif]
     
  12. JediTrilobite

    JediTrilobite Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    I agree. It's sort of got both groups intigrated into it.
     
  13. AdmiralNick22

    AdmiralNick22 Retired Fleet Admiral star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    That is a nice symbol.

    Genghis12:

    You bring up some good points. But could not the same be said of the Empire's symbol. Now, I bet they didn't change it. To the peoples of the GA, that symbol represents evil. Yet, the current Imperial Remnant still uses it.

    My point is, both sides have symbols that the other may find un-nerving. Unless everyone throws out the old and adopts new ones, I see no problem with every side using the same symbols.
     
  14. Thrawn McEwok

    Thrawn McEwok Co-Author: Essential Guide to Warfare star 6 VIP

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    Aye... that, I suspect is the Alliance symbol... it's superbly appropriate... something that evokes the Imperial symbol, masked by the Rebel phoenix...

    :cool: ;)

    - The Imperial Ewok
     
  15. Genghis12

    Genghis12 Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    If that's the case, would it be equally okay to have the flipside one - the traditional Imperial symbol "stamping out" the Rebellion one?
     
  16. Darth_Michael

    Darth_Michael Jedi Youngling star 2

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    A crushed YV head [face_devil]

    Nah, just kiddin'

    -dm
     
  17. Thrawn McEwok

    Thrawn McEwok Co-Author: Essential Guide to Warfare star 6 VIP

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    Ghengis: nah... now that would be appropriate in totally different ways... but that way, the citizens of the Alliance might actually realise what sort of regime they've ended up with... I wouldn't put it past Cal Omas to drop the phoenix at some point, though...

    - The Imperial Ewok
     
  18. AdmiralNick22

    AdmiralNick22 Retired Fleet Admiral star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    ThrawnMcEwok:

    Are you spreading your propoganda about Cal Omas being a dictator in the making again? :p :D
     
  19. Thrawn McEwok

    Thrawn McEwok Co-Author: Essential Guide to Warfare star 6 VIP

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    When a government starts giving ImpStars names like Bail Organa and Elegos A'kla, I think there's already plenty of propaganda...

    You want me to throw the full version of the conspiracy theory into the full gaze of the fanboys?

    I'm just... disappointed... that so few people seem to have picked up on the hints in the coda to The Unifying Force...

    - The Imperial Ewok
     
  20. AdmiralNick22

    AdmiralNick22 Retired Fleet Admiral star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    ThrawnMcEwok:

    Well, I have a couple of comments. Firstly, it is not always propoganda to name warships after famous members of society. It is a sign of respect. Hence how we in the States name many of our new aircraft carriers after former Presidents (Lincoln, Roosevelt) or military leaders (Nimitz).

    Secondly, the supposed "hints" that you speak of may be nothing at all. Perhaps it is you reading to deeply?

    Anyway, I respect your opinions, and I understand your love of these "theories". Your mind is truly complex my friend. :)

    *Yoda voice*

    "Truly wonderful is the mind of an Imperial Ewok." :p :D
     
  21. Even__Piell

    Even__Piell Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Does anyone know if the NR logo was actually based on some earth design?
     
  22. JediTrilobite

    JediTrilobite Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    I don't think so, although it very well could be.
     
  23. Thrawn McEwok

    Thrawn McEwok Co-Author: Essential Guide to Warfare star 6 VIP

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    AdmiralNick: I understand your love of these "theories"

    Thank you! :cool: :p

    Though in this instance, I've refrained from deploying what I think is the clincher, in the hope that someone else would see it independantly of me, and partially because, if right, it would be a huge spoiler which, if it was thrown to the fanboys this early, might deflect whatever plans LFL/DelRey/Jim Luceno/George have laid down...

    And I can't take all the credit for this one, either - Brett and some people at RASSM were also involved...

    Even__Piell: Does anyone know if the NR logo was actually based on some earth design?

    I've seen it said that it looks a lot like, and may have been inspired by, a bird symbol used by the Shaolin Temple... no idea if that's accurate, or just coincidence...

    - The Imperial Ewok
     
  24. Even__Piell

    Even__Piell Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I was thinking that if you flip it 90 degrees, and then seperate the middle part, then it would be a crescent moon and a star, a symbol that I believe is to Islam as what the cross is to Christianity.
     
  25. Rogue_Ten

    Rogue_Ten Chosen One star 7

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    Uh, Val... Isn't that NJO-era symbol very similar to what has been described in the books as being the NR symbol? I mean, I've always assumed they were one and the same. ;)
     
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