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The 3 Versions Of AOTC - What Are The Differences?

Discussion in 'Archive: Attack of the Clones' started by Clonetrooper1000, Apr 14, 2003.

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  1. Clonetrooper1000

    Clonetrooper1000 Jedi Youngling star 3

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    There seems to be plenty of conflicting views surrounding the different versions of Attack of the Clones. Some people claim to have seen things that others have not.

    There were minor differences between the 'film' version and the digital cinema version for the theatrical release. The digital version was then used as the transfer for the AOTC DVD release.

    However, Lucasfilm again made several alterations for this new DVD version, some of which are well known, others are not. In an OS article (OS DVD article), Lucasfilm's Jim Ward says: "there are also some additional, minor changes. You're going to have to figure those out for yourself."

    This thread is to try and find all the changes between these 3 alternate versions of Attack of the Clones. If this means disagreements over what people believed they have seen then fair enough. Its all part of the fun and it may lead us to an answer.
     
  2. Eva_Pilot04

    Eva_Pilot04 Jedi Knight star 7

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    Apparently the digital version had a slightly different wedding scene. There was talk of Anakin having some weird transluscent skin over the robotic arm, or that Padme took his human hand instead. The only real difference I've noticed between the three versions is that the DVD has an extended confession scene. Anakin gets finished telling Padme about the Tuskens, and she says "to be angry is to be human" to which he replies "I'm a jedi. I know I am better than this."





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    Sodding, blimey, shagging, knickers, bollocks!
     
  3. Attack_of_the_Ewoks

    Attack_of_the_Ewoks Jedi Youngling star 4

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    The digital version had Padme holding Anakin's robotic hand, the film version had his hand just hanging by his side.

    Also in the digital release, sparks were added to Jango Fett's jetpack before he gets his head cut off in the arena battle to show that it malfunctioned and he tried to escape.

    For the DVD release, the "confession scene" was extended a bit at the end.

    Also, when Padme is laying in the sand after she falls out of the gunship at the end, and the clonetrooper asks her if she's alright, she now says "u-huh" instead of what she said in the theatrical versions (a casual "yes").

    And finally, several frames were edited out of the shot where Count Dooku cuts of Anakin's arm because he appeared to just stand there in the theatrical versions.
     
  4. Clonetrooper1000

    Clonetrooper1000 Jedi Youngling star 3

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    The reason I started this thread was because in another thread of mine, a debate began on whether Jar Jar greeted Anakin when he came out of the elevator with Obi-Wan at the beginning of the film. The scene is in the shooting script, but according to some it was never in any release of the film.

    I also remember somewhere mentioning that the only difference between the DVD and the digital version was about 20 seconds where Anakin is looking for a particular speeder to fly on Coruscant. I think there are supposed to be some sound differences on top of this.
     
  5. Oakessteve

    Oakessteve Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    This is a very minor, minor change, but the first two times I saw it, during the arena sequence, when Acklay and the Reek are advancing on Anakin and Obi-Wan, rather than saying, "Just relax, concentrate," Obi-Wan says, "You take the one on the left, I'll go for the one on the right," which, if you look at Obi-Wan's lips, it's closer to the original. But, as I said, that's a very minor change, rather like the "That door is secure," and "Blast it, Wedge, where are you?" from Star Wars.
     
  6. UK Sullustian

    UK Sullustian Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    On my R2 DVD and my ..err..... less Lucasfilm friendly MPEG that I had before the official friday release of the film, Obi-Wan says the same line on both.

    I think the "You take the one on the left.." stuff was in the original script and novelization, but not the film.

    UKS
     
  7. advent

    advent Jedi Youngling star 2

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    This is from the official site:

    [b] At the last minute, George felt the wedding scene needed the affection of Padmé taking Anakin's mechanical hand, so just a few days before Celebration II in Indianapolis we shot it and inserted it in time for the D-cinema version.

    That addition is by far the most noticeable change, but we actually made over 70 enhancements for D-cinema. Most involved sharpening, tweaking wipes and color adjustments. However, there are a handful that are definite visual effects changes. I'd be curious to hear if any fans have found any of the other changes.[/b][hr][/blockquote]I'm sure they think it would be fun for fans to find the changes between versions, but with the way Star Wars fans are, a lot of what ends up happening is a bunch of arguing. ;)

    Then there's the link that Clonetrooper shows. There are changes made from the release version(s) to the DVD.

    Personally, I'd like an offical list of the changes made between all versions, but I doubt we'd get such a comprehensive list.
     
  8. Attack_of_the_Ewoks

    Attack_of_the_Ewoks Jedi Youngling star 4

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    Jar Jar did not greet Anakin, nor did Anakin search for a speeder. You guys just read them in the novel, script, comic, etc. and thought you remember seeing it. I also have a less lucasfilm-friendly version and aside from those, Obi-Wan never says "take the one on the left..."
     
  9. Turkilma

    Turkilma Jedi Youngling star 2

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    And finally, several frames were edited out of the shot where Count Dooku cuts of Anakin's arm because he appeared to just stand there in the theatrical versions.

    The shot lasted even longer ?!?

    The horrors ...
     
  10. YodaJeff

    YodaJeff Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    "Obi-Wan never says "take the one on the left...""

    Even though I always heard the other line, I'm inclined to believe that he does indeed say that. Multiple non-spoiled people remembered hearing it. I'm pretty sure that shortly after AOTC's release, it was agreed upon that there were a couple minor differences between various flim versions, that being one of them.
     
  11. Darth_Zoo

    Darth_Zoo Jedi Master star 4

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    Anakin's robotic hand is different. In the original theatric release Anakin had a huge gold robotic hand (it made no sense). But on the DVD his robotic hand is much more conservative and realistic.
     
  12. Clonetrooper1000

    Clonetrooper1000 Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Just remember it is easy to confuse between the changes in both the D-cinema and DVD versions and sort out in which version the change was made. I'll list the definite obvious ones.

    D-cinema version (changes from the original 'film' version)
  13. Wedding scene where Padme now takes Anakin's relpacement hand


  14. DVD version (changes from the D-cinema version)
  15. Jango's malfunctioning jet packs have now got clear sparks coming from them
  16. The garage scene now ends with the extra lines of dialogue between Anakin and Padme
  17. After she falls to the sand, Padme's reply to the Clone trooper is changed from "yes" to "uh-huh"


  18. There is another point I want to mention about the 'Millenium Falcons' cameo.

    According to DeltaSourceOnline, the YT-1300 freighters are not visible in the DVD release. This is nonsense cause I notice them every time as I am sure everyone else will. They do mention there use of a Widescreen TV however, which means that if it was set to that narrower ratio, it may have just cut them out.

    This made me remember something else though. I always remember seeing 3 of these ships in the cinema. On DVD I can only spot 2. Some sources including Force.net also say there was 3 falcons. Does anyone else think this could be an alteration?
     
  19. Clonetrooper1000

    Clonetrooper1000 Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Right, nobody has answered this question. I thought about creating a new thread. However, there is no point because it fits into this one I created.

    In the DVD release I can see 2 Millenium Falcon type ships as I am sure everyone else can. In the theatrical release I remember seeing 3. Force.net backs this up. Does anyone else think this is one of the alterations on the DVD.

    PS. I am just back from the pub and I am a bit pissed. Sorry if that comes across in any of my posts.

    EDIT: Maybe a picture would help cause I remember seeing one on the net somewhere.
     
  20. DarthLuxor

    DarthLuxor Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I've seen 5 different version of AOTC:

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    First was on the Sunday before AOTC's release. I attended one of the 11 Charity Screenings. Differences:

    In the picnic scene when Padme goes "Who you!" and Anakin follows " No not me. Someone wise!" then dialog is added about Palpy being the wise one the Anakin is thinking about then Padme says 'your teasing me'.

    Also Obi-Wan's "You take the one on the left, I'll take the one on the right." is in this version. MY FAVORITE VERSION!

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    Secondly is the film version.

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    Third is the DLP version where she grabs his robotic hand. Palpy's chamber was blood red in this one, but I think that's more a projector thing like what happened to Ebert.

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    Fourth the IMAX version. The differnces can be found all over this sight.

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    Fifth the DVD. Padme's "Uh-huh" was far superior to the other versions, but I didn't care much for Anakin's extra dialog in the confession scene. That should have been left on the cutting room floor.


    ^^^^^^^^In the DVD release I can see 2 Millenium Falcon type ships as I am sure everyone else can. In the theatrical release I remember seeing 3. Force.net backs this up. Does anyone else think this is one of the alterations on the DVD. ^^^^^^^^

    That may have something to due with the DVD being anamorphic, but I'm not sure.
     
  21. advent

    advent Jedi Youngling star 2

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    You count 'em:
    [image=http://mywebpage.netscape.com/swadvent/EPII+-+Naboo_arrival2.jpg]

    Standard TV sets overscan the video image, so there is a very small portion that is cut off on all sides.

    The DVD capture that I did is the whole video image of the movie.

    In theaters there is also a possibility for framing issues; the projector not being properly aligned.
     
  22. Obi-Wan2001

    Obi-Wan2001 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    "First was on the Sunday before AOTC's release. I attended one of the 11 Charity Screenings. Differences:

    In the picnic scene when Padme goes "Who you!" and Anakin follows " No not me. Someone wise!" then dialog is added about Palpy being the wise one the Anakin is thinking about then Padme says 'your teasing me'.

    Also Obi-Wan's "You take the one on the left, I'll take the one on the right." is in this version. MY FAVORITE VERSION!"


    Hmmm, that's funny, cause I saw the charity screening on that Sunday with George Lucas himself, in San Francisco, and it was exactly the film version that came out the next week. None of those differences were there. I'll bet anyone that if this question was answered officially by the OS, they'd say there was never a released version with those changes.
     
  23. Strilo

    Strilo Manager Emeritus star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Well there was a version of the film that used the "left" "right" line. It was pulled and replaced early on but it did exist. Just like there was a version of TPM where Darth Maul did NOT split in half when he fell down the shaft at the end. He fell in one piece. This is not urban legend, it really did exist.

     
  24. Clonetrooper1000

    Clonetrooper1000 Jedi Youngling star 3

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    DarthLuxor, I have not included the IMAX version for a few reasons. There is plenty of available information on the changes in the IMAX one and it is a seperate issue from the 3 versions of the proper 'full-length' version. These three versions contain only minor sutle changes and many have yet to be discovered. Others are hotly debated.

    Also, I agree with Obi-Wan2001. As far as I knew the charity screenings came from the same masters as the actual release only a few days later. I would find it impossible for there to be any differences between the screenings. This is the first I have heard of it.
     
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