Lit The Ajunta Pall Age Discrepancy

I've encountered a pretty major issue, that's seemed to have escaped the notice of, well, pretty much everybody. Ajunta Pall, the human High General of the Dark Jedi, who instigated the Hundred-Year darkness, which, most of us know, spiraled into the eventual formation of the Order of the Sith Lords.

If it is to be believed that the Hundred-Year Darkness was indeed a century-long conflict, and Ajunta Pall, having started it, was only exiled at the end of it, that would place him at well over 100 years old by the time of his exile! Meaning, that every single piece of official artwork portraying Pall up until now, has actually been non-canon, because it portrays a Pall much, much younger, and being human, the effects of age should be obvious, especially with someone so immersed in the Dark Side.

Now, the only explanation I can give to resolve this issue might be that Pall discovered a way to use the Force in order to preserve his youth, or perhaps that Pall, himself wasn't in fact the one who began the Hundred-Year Darkness, but I think it far more likely that this was just an oversight on the part of the artists, and even Leland Chee.

 

Maybe, like in real life, humans lived far longer in Star Wars' distant past than they do in the "modern" day.

 

What is the source that states Pall was involved with the start of the conflict?

 

Lol so you're saying that Ajunta Pall is like a primordial Biblical figure?

 

It was stated somewhere in the Jedi vs. Sith: Essential Guide to the Force sourcebook. It's said the it was he, along with those who rallied behind him, who declared war on the Jedi.

 

Not necessarily just him. Maybe every human in that time was.

Maybe in the Star Wars galaxy there was a point of time, like where we are in real life, where average age expectancy for a human was 75-80 years, and then medical advances with bacta and the like allowed the "modern" Star Wars humans to live to 100 and greater. Maybe one day, science will allow us to live to 100 years with ease. Who knows.

 

Haha well that doesn't explain why Count Dooku and Palpatine look their age, and why Obi-Wan (at 54?) by the time of A New Hope, looks as a desert hermit would.

 

Jedi vs Sith: The Essential Guide to the Force does not say that Ajunta Pall started the Hundred-Year Darkness.

 

Like I said, over time life expectancy decreased, so they looked their age because they aged.

 

Angered by what they deemed Jedi arrogance, Master Pall and his followers declared war on the Order, beginning a century-long conflict that would be known to history as the Hundred-Year Darkness.

^That's from Wookieepedia's article on Pall, however i'm also wondering where this was ever actually stated. Being what it is, it could very well just be a mistakes on the wook's fault.

EDIT: Though it's also likely it was merely something the artists overlooked. Or, Pall could be some type of half human hybrid and therefore not age at the same rate as humans do.

 

It's not in JvS: The Essential Guide to the Force. I suspect it's extrapolation unless there's another source. Book of Sith also says nothing of Pall initiating the conflict.

 

Most likely KOTOR 1 and Pall's spirit actually. He said something along the lines of:

'We were arrogant...we rebelled against our Masters and were exiled.'

Though it has been some time since I played that game.

 

That's ambiguous and a bizarre interpretation -- "we" could simply mean all the Dark Jedi of the conflict, and to interpret that to mean Pall included himself literally rather than figuratively in using "we" is strange because we know he was a survivor of the end of the conflict.

 

I know. It's just the only thing that comes to mind as to where they could have gotten him 'starting' the Hundred-Years Darkness from.

 

A Sith Lord living over a century isn't particularly impressive to me. There's numerous ways he could achieve this even without the Force.

 

Too true. The OP seems to be astounded specifically because images of Pall show him as being physically young, though even that I don't find to be terribly troubling.

 

Yeah, I thought his Sith spirit would just be like Anakin in ROTJ. A representation of how he saw himself.

 

We've put the cart before the horse because there still hasn't been an actual source which says Pall was the instigator of the conflict.

 

It wouldn't be a big deal if they retconned him to be so.

 

Even if they did it's really not anything troublesome. They could either just retcon those pics out of existence and portray him as older from now on, or come up with an explanation as to why he looks so younger even though he's so old. Sith Alchemy/Magic, Essence Transfer, Clones, Mechanical Replacements, Biology, etc.

 

Yeah.

Exactly.

Maybe he's a Sith who does plastic surgery.

 

I... agree with all of you

I'd just like this kind a thing to reach the attention of Lucasfilm or something, because it is a bit of a plot-hole, if, in fact, Pall did do something to sustain his youth. Or at least clarify if the war was spearheaded by somebody else, and that Pall just "joined the bandwagon", so to speak, near the end, and took control later on. And even then, who is that bold Jedi who decided to instigate a Second Great Schism, even after the first one had so utterly failed? As well, there is no mention of Pall ever following anybody else, whereas there are numerous examples of Dark Jedi following Pall.

Oh, the mystery...

 

Ulicus, dig up your dialogue files for Pall's lines. I believe he says something along the lines of, "We thought we knew better than our Masters, etc" -- the context seems to be pretty clear that he's talking about being a rebel himself, but I don't have the lines memorized.

But long lives seem to be pretty standard among the Ancient Sith; Ragnos lived for well over a century, I believe. Given the emphasis on Sith Alchemy among the Exiles, I wouldn't find it surprising at all if they were involved in life-extending, youth-sustaining alchemical tampering.

 

He's a Sephi with cropped ears!

 

I hope he's this guy that disintegrated some Buddhist with a lightsaber.

Edit: OR IS IT A FORCESABER?!