PT The biological father of Anakin

Now that we are in the new canon of the Disney era and that the Expanded Universe has been erased
There are a lot of possibilities to create new content for Star Wars since until now the only canon are the movies and television series

But now that the book of Darth Plagueis is not canon anymore there is even the possibility that Anakin has a biological father in the new canon I think it would be interesting to know if anakin actually had a father

I think that if Anakin had a very powerful father that would explain why he is very powerful in the force

Would you like if Anakin have a biological father in the new canon?

 

If Shmi is to be believed and her statement is unambiguous, then there is no biological father.

However.

If "I can't explain what happened" should be applied to everything that Shmi said. then she can't explain if there is or was a father or not.

"There is no father" could just mean, Anakin and I are alone - There was a father, but not any more.

I'm not really anxious to explore the possibilities. It's clear there was no plan to expand that because there it appears to have not significance regarding the events shown in the first VII movies of this saga.

 

It's probably best to just be (keep being) ambiguous. To me the appeal of if Anakin did have a biological father is that he wasn't either powerful or prominent but someone of Shmi's status (or just a little higher, enough to have his ship) who turned out to be a good-for-nothing and Shmi's "There was no father" meant he abandoned her before Anakin was born and she did all the work of parenting as a single mother.

 

I don't really want the new Disney canon mucking about with prequel canon. But if they did go that route, maybe it could be explained that she was artificially inseminated against her will and without her knowledge. Like she was abducted, sedated and the procedure performed on her without her knowledge.

Does anyone recall back when TPM came out if there was backlash (criticism) from ultra conservative religious groups about Anakin being an "immaculate conception"?

 

There was a Rolling Stone article with Lucas where the interviewer brought up Christ as a comparison and then it went into other Greek gods and other mythological figures.

For me, personally I don't care to have a whole backstory established for a physical father. I am only vested in the things I really need to know about Anakin. He's the Chosen One, who his kids are, how he turns, and then how he is ultimately redeemed fulfilling the prophecy.

 

No, if Disney does that then I'll boycott them for life. They can't ruin Anakin's immaculate conception it is a part of the mythological roots of the character.

 

Kennedy has said that they're not changing the story laid down by Lucas. So, he has no father. That was the whole point in his backstory. And yes, Qui-gon can tell if she was honest or not.

 

Trivia: before TPM came out there were rumours saying that Liam Neeson as going to play Anakin's father.

And no, he doesn't need a biological father. He was created by the Sith, that's my canon.

 

George Lucas was his father...from a certain POV

 

It's precisely because there was no father that she can't explain what happened.

 

An Elf did it.

Fun fact: the Irish word Sidhe is also sometimes spelled Sith. And Irish Elves are particularly known for stealing newborn children they find attractive from their mortal parents.

 

Honestly, I think it would be a cool idea for a clone wars era comic around or before ROTS where some guy shows up at the Jedi Temple claiming to be the "father" of Anakin Skywalker. He's got the same rugged looks and even knows Shimi intimately claiming she and Anakin were kidnapped from him when he was captured by pirates. Maybe he tells him he wants Anakin to come with him and it stirs a bunch of conflict with Anakin. He can turn out to be some pirate or whatever and ends up dying before he admits to Anakin it was all some sort of made up thing for mysterious purpose.

 

Not precise. Possible.

 

Yes, I'm sure Disney would be all about creating a forced abduction and artificial insemination narrative.

 

As I understand it, a lot of people working on the film expected such a backlash, and were surprised when it didn't happen.

 

Which conservative religious groups would we be talking about?

Conservative Buddhists? Egyptian Mythologists? Ancient greeks; Hindus ; Aztecs native Americans, Muslims et al the myriad diverese beliefs which claim ownership of a miraculously born demi-god?

 

Well, the Immaculate Conception was a Roman Catholic concept to explain the conception of the Virgin Mary by her mother, Saint Anne.

 

It was a pre-existing and widespread concept.

 

Yeah, people mix up the Immaculate Conception and the Virgin Birth all the time, for some reason even people who are otherwise well-read in religious matters. But one refers to Mary, the other refers to Jesus.

 

I think it's because most people don't imagine the concept of Original Sin is something that God can waive whenever he feels like it (as for Mary), and just doesn't choose to for most of us plebeians. But that's a religious discussion and seriously off-topic.

As for the virgin birth of Anakin Skywalker -- the Plageuis angle is the most familiar, but in early drafts of ROTS it was Palpatine who claimed the credit himself. An interesting refutation of Augustine.

 

Actually, Tattooinians have the ability to impregnate themselves according to this Wookepedia article I just wrote and was then edited over by purists.

 

The immaculately conceived= Vs virgin birth distinction is not a distinction that has anything to do with any exact belief but simply to ensure that the mother of God was conceived in the womb of a woman but without sin (somehow, don't ask how) while Jesus/God was conceived in the womb a virgin without any human influence and therefore no possibility of sin of any kind.

Essentially its way of venerating Mary but with a clause to preclude any undue prominence over her son's birth.

 

The possibility of Anakin's having been conceived in an act of profound sin, and its ultimate irrelevance to the choices he makes as an exercise of free will, does have some hints of Pelagianism to it, doesn't it?

At the same time, one could argue that the Force, acting through prophecy, facilitated Anakin's redemption through an act of divine grace; and Lucas himself has endorsed the concept that an evil component exists within each and every one of us and is something which must be contended with. Both of these could be interpreted as a Augustinian ideas.

That's what's so great about Star Wars, though. It presents us with all these great philosophical and religious questions but never comes down too hard on either side of the fence. The conflict between destiny and free will is a central question of the films, and it is never really conclusively resolved. All we know is that Anakin's destiny and his free will coincided in the end with an act of profound human redemption.