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The Children of Clones

Discussion in 'Literature' started by ThrawnRocks, Jan 8, 2005.

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  1. ThrawnRocks

    ThrawnRocks Jedi Master star 6

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    I've been directed here from the AotC Board




    It's been established that Clones can have kids. And it's been established that the Clones have been geneticly modified to dvelop twice as fast.


    So can a child of a one of these clones (with a non-clone woman I'm assuming) inherit the gene to develop twice as fast? If they do do they develop the full twice rate, or would it be dulled by their mother's genes?
     
  2. DarthBoba

    DarthBoba Manager Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I've yet to see that the accelerated growth genes remain active into adulthood, so I'm not entirely sure if they would remain active during reproduction.
     
  3. Havet_Storm

    Havet_Storm Jedi Master star 3

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    I would say they would at least have a chance of inheriting the clone parent's (Women can be clones too you know!) growth gene. Depending on whether they are dominant or recessive, if recessive then the non-clone parent's gene would either dilute, or totaly negate the effect of the clones alelle.
     
  4. ThrawnRocks

    ThrawnRocks Jedi Master star 6

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    Yeah, but we don't know of any female clones with growth acceloration.
     
  5. exar-tull

    exar-tull Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    What do i think about? i don't know,really. Nobody's ever asked me for my opinion before.
    -Clone Trooper RC-5093,retired,at CF VetCenter,Coruscant. Chronological age:twenty-three. Biological age:sixty

    source republic commando hard contact.
     
  6. RogueWompRat

    RogueWompRat Jedi Youngling star 4

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    But remember Able from that recent Empire issue- he didn't have accelerated growth beyond being the equivilant of 20 years at age 10.
     
  7. DarthNoctambulus

    DarthNoctambulus Jedi Master star 4

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    Mendel? We got a problem.
     
  8. Darth Guy

    Darth Guy Chosen One star 10

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    It makes sense that the Kaminoans would somehow stop the accelerated growth once the clone reaches full adulthood, since that would make them last longer. How it's done doesn't really matter, because Star Wars uses... questionable science anyway.
     
  9. exar-tull

    exar-tull Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    inuniverse they must have gotten massive complants from commanders to stop the growth acceleration after 20/10 years and developed something to satisfiy there customers.
     
  10. Katana_Geldar

    Katana_Geldar Jedi Grand Master star 8

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    but growth acceleration isn't always the case, like bob and mara and thrawn said it can stuff up the mind a wee bit
     
  11. Darth_Kevin

    Darth_Kevin Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    First, I think it has not been fully established whether the growth acceleration lasts throughout the clones life. There are contradicting sources.

    It is however indeed genetic, thus I would postulate that it indeed would be passed onto children, just as is the case with natural genetic changes such as mutations. In all likelihood it would not be the same as the clone, but instead a hybrid of the two parents. However, in the case of it being carried on a single gene, it could be fully the same as one parent if dominant or recessive.
     
  12. Rebel_Spook

    Rebel_Spook Jedi Master star 4

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    There is actually an aspect of all of this that ya'll are missing.

    If the gene for rapid aging is passed on to the child, then the rapid aging would occur during pregnancy. The problem with this is that the child would be growing faster, but the woman's body is not going to handle this as pregnancy is supposed to last 40 weeks in human beings. The child would require more nutrients than the woman would be able to supply, the woman would likely either die or have a miscarriage.
     
  13. Havet_Storm

    Havet_Storm Jedi Master star 3

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    Possibly, although there could be a similar medical treatment to solve that problem as whatever was used in that Robin Williams film 'Jack(?)'
     
  14. young_zev

    young_zev Jedi Youngling star 3

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    We don't know if the rapid-acceleration gene is recessive or not. I'm betting it's delicate and recessive. Therefore, hopefully, the female growth gene would dominate, and you'd get a normal child.

    According to Hard Contact, and everything I've heard from the Ranch, the growth acceleration is sadly non-reversible.

    Otherwise, that scene with Darman and the may-flies is not as tragically beautiful.

     
  15. RogueWompRat

    RogueWompRat Jedi Youngling star 4

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    So what's Able's story then? A fluke?
     
  16. ThrawnRocks

    ThrawnRocks Jedi Master star 6

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    If the gene for rapid aging is passed on to the child, then the rapid aging would occur during pregnancy. The problem with this is that the child would be growing faster, but the woman's body is not going to handle this as pregnancy is supposed to last 40 weeks in human beings. The child would require more nutrients than the woman would be able to supply, the woman would likely either die or have a miscarriage

    I haven't read anything about full grown clones needing more nutrience then a normal person, so that might not be true for the fetici. And I don't think the mother would die assuming that the baby lived with the amount of nutrience. She probably would have to be hosbitalized for the greater part of the pregnancy, but I think she would survive. But anyway, I think the baby would be able to be born normaly. Aren't contractions caused because the ovary can't be streached any more? So the baby would have a premature birth for a normal human, that's all.
     
  17. young_zev

    young_zev Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Able would be 60 years old, roughly.

    20 years biological AOTC

    23 years from AOTC to ANH

    (meaning 46 biological years added to his age...)

    66 years old. It works. He looks pretty old in the comic.

    Uh, also, Thrawn... ovaries don't stretch, son. The uterus might, but the ovaries don't.

    Anyway, it's not medically known exactly what causes labor to start. (We know how to induce it with hormones and chemicals, but we don't know why the body decides "okay it's time.") It's one of those amazing mysteries of human existence.
     
  18. da_muzzy

    da_muzzy Jedi Youngling star 1

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    "I would say they would at least have a chance of inheriting the clone parent's (Women can be clones too you know!) growth gene. Depending on whether they are dominant or recessive, if recessive then the non-clone parent's gene would either dilute, or totaly negate the effect of the clones alelle."

    This dude knows his bio. Kudos.
     
  19. young_zev

    young_zev Jedi Youngling star 3

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    True dat.

    Except in this case, we KNOW that the clones are not women.

     
  20. Excellence

    Excellence Jedi Knight star 7

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    Somewhere in Hard Contact says what a clone's biological age to his chronological age.
     
  21. exar-tull

    exar-tull Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    i believe the clone trooper your talking about is 10[chronological] years to 20 [biological],the other ones were probably the same age.
     
  22. JediHobbit

    JediHobbit Jedi Master star 5

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    it's simple, offspring of a clone who grows at twice the normal rate and a woman who grows at a normal rate result in children that grow at 1.5 times the normal rate.

    :p
     
  23. ThrawnRocks

    ThrawnRocks Jedi Master star 6

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    ^ that could be possible if the acceleration gene was more then one gene so that the chile could have some of both.

    More from me tomorow.
     
  24. young_zev

    young_zev Jedi Youngling star 3

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    ThrawnRocks "More from me tomorrow."

    Uh-oh, someone's off to pester his biology teacher. :)
     
  25. ThrawnRocks

    ThrawnRocks Jedi Master star 6

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    No, don't have a bio teacher. Allthough I may take another bio class in a year or two. :p


    I haven't taken a bio class in a few years, so excuse my calling the uterus the ovary :p

    Anyway, I think through MODERN TECHNOLOGY, the baby and the mother (most likely the baby) would survive the pregnancy.

    I didn't post more because I wanted to go to bed. :p
     
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