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ST The cinematography of The Force Awakens - Based on the teaser trailer

Discussion in 'Sequel Trilogy' started by ray243, Nov 28, 2014.

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  1. ray243

    ray243 Jedi Grand Master star 3

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    I am not sure if this is just me or is there any other fans that feels like there is something off about the cinematography based on what we saw in the trailer for episode 7? Shakey cam, lens flare, weird camera zoom and how clean the film look as a whole make it look like a fan film as opposed to a grand cinematic epic.

    It doesn't feel like a Star wars film.
     
  2. starocean90

    starocean90 Chosen One star 8

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    stop complaining and enjoy the teaser,
    complain all you want when the movie is out.;)
     
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  3. A Chorus of Disapproval

    A Chorus of Disapproval Head Admin & TV Screaming Service star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    Our server is being overloaded for threads like this...???
     
  4. Darth Zannah

    Darth Zannah Jedi Knight star 3

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    LOL....if there's anything wrong with cinematography for a Star Wars film look to Attack of the Clones! One of the first thoughts I had when I saw this new trailer was "Wow....Attack of the Clones, especially the Geonosis Arena scene, really look like crap compared to the cinematography here...guess it wasn't just me being close minded/ a hater after all!"
     
  5. Grand_Moff_Jawa

    Grand_Moff_Jawa Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Here's an idea. If you don't like the trailer, don't say anything about it here. We don't need a bashing thread.
     
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  6. chris hayes

    chris hayes Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Can someone please lock this clown......
     
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  7. darth_mccartney

    darth_mccartney Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    There's absolutely nothing wrong with it, it looks great!
     
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  8. ShaneP

    ShaneP Ex-Mod Officio star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    OP, what.are.you.talking.about?

    It's 88 seconds of out of context visuals.
     
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  9. ray243

    ray243 Jedi Grand Master star 3

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    Why can't we criticise what we think is the negative aspect of the film? Must everyone like the new trailer just because we are supposed to be all excited for more Star Wars movie?

    People should be allowed to say what they don't like about the trailer because the idea that all SW fans are crazy about the trailer is not true. I don't think this trailer reassure me that JJ Abrams is a good choice as a director for Star Wars. The most important aspect of Star Wars is the visual aesthetic, which cannot be found in this film.

    Despite all the comments about using film to shoot this movie, the teaser shots seems like someone was shooting it with their handheld digital camera.

    I just don't like what I have seen so far, and just because the title of this film is Star Wars doesn't necessary mean it can retain the distinct visual style of George Lucas.

    It's 88 second of footage that showed us cinematography that looks out of place from the past 6 movies we have seen. Instead of using long, drawn out shots, we get things like shakey cam.

    I don't think that things like shakey cam has a place in the visual language of a Star Wars movie. Without the very distinct visual style we saw in the previous 6 films, it is hard to view Abram's film as being part of the same visual continuity.

    It's like some artist thinks that he is being clever by applying post-modernism style to classical style of painting and calling his work the successor to the original piece of art.
     
  10. Chewgumma

    Chewgumma Chosen One star 7

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    You're right! The trailer needs moar shot-reverse shot and people sitting on a couch!


    Seriously, if you were expecting a new director to come on board and just imitate what came before then you were always going to be sorely disappointed. Personally I thought there was some really nice use of colour and framing on display in the trailer.
     
  11. A Chorus of Disapproval

    A Chorus of Disapproval Head Admin & TV Screaming Service star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    What film...? All the rest of us were given were millisecond-long snippets of cropped footage.
     
  12. ShaneP

    ShaneP Ex-Mod Officio star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    A little shaky cam goes a long way in selling the realism of a shot where the camera is supposedly trying to keep up with ships or robots running around rough terrain.

    And Im sorry you don't like SW without the visual style of Lucas. But guess what? Neither did ESB. Watch that film again and compare it to SW. And the same for every single SW film from here on out. Lucas is done with it.

    I can't wait to see where this thing is headed.
     
  13. Njfritz

    Njfritz Jedi Master star 3

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    I thought the cinematography was superb.
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    How is that NOT aesthetically pleasing? These shots all look like beautiful concept arts, but they're actually shots from the film.
     
  14. Ben R

    Ben R Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I have a Samsung Blu Ray player that allows me to watch Youtube Videos on my TV through wireless internet. I just watched it that way in true high def. Looks absolutely gorgeous.
     
  15. PrometheusCreations

    PrometheusCreations Jedi Padawan star 1

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    And just think: the effects aren't even really CLOSE to done yet! We're basically seeing stuff at the alpha phase,at the earliest. :0 Pretty wild.
     
  16. ray243

    ray243 Jedi Grand Master star 3

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    Because Star Wars has never been about making people aware that the camera exist on screen. The shots we saw in all the fims, even the ones not directed by Lucas tries to make us forget that the camera is there and allow us to focus on the story. A Star Wars movie that tries to use shakey cam destroy those important aspect of Star Wars. If epic movies like LOTR can generally avoid shakey cam, I do not see why Star Wars need shakey cam.

    I'm fine with Star Wars without Lucas, as long as they can pick a successor that is able to understand the key elements of the Star Wars movies. Gareth Edwards seems to understand that with his Godzilla movie, Spielberg still understands how to pick and design shots, Nolan is decent at giving us action movies without shakey cam.

    There are still plenty of directors that can capture the visual style of the Star Wars film. However, this teaser has shown that Abrams doesn't understand that well at all.
    Because in Star Wars, the final product is always not the exact same as the concept art. Does colour grading the new storm trooper scene help to make the scene feel more naturalistic or does it feel more like a fanfilm?




    Unless the SFX team is going to remove things like shakey cam, I doubt that the end product would feel that different from what we have seen so far.

    Say what you want about EP I, but at the very least its teaser feels like a Star Wars film.

     
  17. Njfritz

    Njfritz Jedi Master star 3

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    Glad you're here to educate us on what Star Wars "should be"

    Please go on grand master jedi. I assume you know more than Lucas even.
     
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  18. A Chorus of Disapproval

    A Chorus of Disapproval Head Admin & TV Screaming Service star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    Oh, I get it, now. Every environment in the GFFA should be lit with standard GE white light.
     
  19. ShaneP

    ShaneP Ex-Mod Officio star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Sorry but the SW SE had a huge shot like it was shot from a cherry picker overlooking Mos Eisley as the speeder heads uptown.

    We also have tilts, pans and crane shots in ESB. So SW films have always had cameras in motion.
     
  20. Njfritz

    Njfritz Jedi Master star 3

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    Not to mention, if a shot looks like concept art. Thats bad. How dare you stick close to the vision of the artists!
     
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  21. JediKnightWax

    JediKnightWax Jedi Master star 4

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    Dare I say it has better cinematography than the OT?
     
  22. Njfritz

    Njfritz Jedi Master star 3

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    Say it. Because I'm pretty sure OP doesn't know what cinematography is.
     
  23. ezekiel22x

    ezekiel22x Chosen One star 5

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    Appears to be a nice looking modern blockbuster no more, no less. Based on that (extremely) small sample I admit the look doesn't draw me in like either of the existing trilogies did, but I was prepared for that possibility ever since Abrams was announced. He has a lot of strengths, but I don't think he excels at capturing the type of images that make me want to hit the pause button and let the visuals wash over me. And there's nothing wrong with that. It was inevitable that this iteration of Star Wars was going to differ in some ways.
     
  24. ShaneP

    ShaneP Ex-Mod Officio star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I say go for it!
     
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  25. MillionthVoice

    MillionthVoice Jedi Master star 3

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    There was loads of shakeycam in the PT, but I assume that doesn't fly by you?..
     
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