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The death(s) of Boba Fett (possible fix for YA series and THG)...

Discussion in 'Literature' started by TalonCard, Feb 4, 2005.

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  1. TalonCard

    TalonCard •Author: Slave Pits of Lorrd •TFN EU Staff star 5 VIP

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    Ok, so we all know that someone goofed up here. It might have originally been A.C. Crispin, could have been Elizabeth Hand. Let's see:

    In the recent Boba Fett young readers series, we have Fett working for Jabba the Hutt on Tatooine for three years and becoming known to various members of the fringe community. This would seem to contradict The Hutt Gambit, where it appears that Fett and the Hutt are meeting for the first time. (At the time the book was written, Fett had already done work for Jabba on Jubilar and Boonta at this point in the timeline, but he could have worked with an intermediary such as Naroon Cuthlas or Mosep.) This book repeats Boba's Jaster Mareel backstory established in TOTBH.

    Now, however, we may have the perfect reconciliation for these two books. Read on:

    In Star Wars Adventures #4-6, young Boba is captured by Bossk and his father, Cradossk. Cradossk returns the boy, but knows that Boba is Jango's son. Jango then has a mindless clone of himself fast-grown by the Kaminoans, which he presents to Cradossk as Boba, dead by Jango's hand. Jango does this in order to keep Boba's existence a secret. In Boba Fett #6, Boba fails in his mission to capture Wat Tambor for Jabba the Hutt and is left for dead by General Grevious.

    Here we have two points in the timeline where Boba became known to members of the galaxy's criminal community, and was also believed to be dead. These could serve as a fix for The Hutt Gambit--Jabba and Cradossk both believe that Jango's son Boba is dead. Since we now know (from the Mandalorian article in Insider) that rumors were circulating during Boba's early career stating that "Boba Fett" was actually Jaster Mareel from Concord Dawn, both aliens might have assumed that this bounty hunter was merely trading off Jango's name, and not the young man they both met years earlier.

    Of course what really happened was that Boba left bounty hunting after ROTS and became a Journeyman Protector on Concord Dawn, taking the name of Jaster Mareel. Here he presumably partners with the droid BL-17 and married Sintas, a fellow hunter-turned-upstanding citizen. After killing his superior officer, he returns to hunting with his droid, posing as a stormtrooper for his first assignment.

    Thoughts?

    TC
     
  2. TIEPilot051999

    TIEPilot051999 Jedi Master star 7

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    I'm beginning to see that fanboy theories are more plausible than any offical explanation that GL and co. can come up with.
     
  3. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Technicality comment- we don't know that he actually married Sintas.

    Anyways, thats an interesting perspective on things that could actually work quite well...
     
  4. TIEPilot051999

    TIEPilot051999 Jedi Master star 7

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    Technicality comment- we don't know that he actually married Sintas.

    Leave it to the Quest to point out the nits. ;)
     
  5. Halagad_Ventor

    Halagad_Ventor Star Wars Author - SWRPG Designer star 4 VIP

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    Actually 2ndQuest, the Gamer article Usual Suspects states clearly that Fett and Sintas were married.

    Take care,
    Abel
     
  6. Thrawn McEwok

    Thrawn McEwok Co-Author: Essential Guide to Warfare star 6 VIP

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    Except for his physical appearance in The Unifying Force, there's nothing to show that OT/EU Boba is Prequel Boba - and certainly no indicator that there's only one of him...

    In the OT, Boba Fett is a lean 6' 1", and there's an in-universe joke (CCG) that Lieutenant Sheckil (Jeremy Bulloch), also from Concord Dawn, is his twin brother - a clone?!

    In the Prequels, Boba Fett is an "identical in every way" clone of a father who's a broad-shouldered 5' 7", and there's no way that anyone could mistake the well-known face of the Maori clone under the helmet for a blond, blue-eyed Englishman...

    - The Imperial Ewok
     
  7. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    :oops:

    Knew about the article and that it mentioned Sintas and their child, didn't know about the marriage reference.
     
  8. The_Mandalorian_

    The_Mandalorian_ Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I'd certainly believe the Young Boba Series is stuck to continuity because it ties in with the CLone Wars, but thats just my opinion.

    I personally doubt Boba left to Concord Dawn to become a Journeyman Protector. His entire life revolved around that little Black Book his father gave to him and the supercommando codex. He wanted to become the best Bounty Hunter and so i'd believe tht the entirety of his young life was devoted to doing just that.

    Oh and i want to congratulate you on finding this error. Go and present it to Abel and see if you can figure it out.
     
  9. Spike2002

    Spike2002 Former FF-UK RSA and Arena Manager star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I don't believe the Fett-married article. Tales of the Bounty Hunters specifically says Boba Fett had never so much held a woman in his arms and he had no desire to do so.
     
  10. MarcusP2

    MarcusP2 Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Boba didn't. Jaster did. :)
     
  11. Thrawn McEwok

    Thrawn McEwok Co-Author: Essential Guide to Warfare star 6 VIP

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    We need two Fetts, at least. AotC-Fett and Sheckil-Fett... period. :D

    And probably a Jaster Mereel Fett, as well - say, a son of the former Mandalorian leader...

    Sheckil-Fett and Jaster-Fett are both from Concord Dawn...

    And it's possible that whichever Fett fell into the saarlac went at least temporarily insane...

    It works this way:

    ***

    EXT. DAGOBAH - FIRE SWAMP

    SINTAS and Jaster, moving slowly along through a particularly dangerous part of the Fire Swamp

    JASTER: This will all soon be but a happy memory because Boba' ship "Slave I" is anchored at the far end. And I, as you know, am Boba.

    SINTAS: But how is that possible, since he's been bounty hunting twenty years and you only left me five years ago?

    JASTER: I myself am often surprised at life's little quirks.

    There is again a popping sound, then a huge spurt of flame. Jaster simply picks up Sintas as they walk along, moves her out of danger, puts her back down, goes right on talking without missing a beat.

    JASTER: You see, what I told you before about saying "please" was true. It intrigued Boba, as did my descriptions of your beauty.

    CUT TO: SOME HIDEOUS VINES -- they look like they could be flesh eating. Jaster takes his wristwhip, slices a path for them to follow. The vines groan as they fall. He's been chatting away the entire time.

    JASTER: Finally, Boba decided something. He said, "All right, Jaster, I've never had a valet. You can try it for tonight. I'll most likely kill you in the morning." Three years he said that. "Good night, Jaster. Good work. Sleep well. I'll most likely kill you in the morning." It was a fine time for me. I was learning to fence, to fight, anything anyone would teach me. And Boba and I eventually became friends. And then it happened.

    SINTAS: What? -- go on --

    Jaster picks her up, carrying her across some swamp water that is bridged by a narrow, rickety tree branch.

    JASTER: Well, Boba had grown so rich, he wanted to retire. So he took me to his cabin and told me his secret. "I am not Boba Fett," he said. "My name is Sheckil. I inherited this ship from the previous Boba Fett, just as you will inherit it from me. The man I inherited it from was not the real Boba Fett, either. His name was Cummerbund. The real Boba has been retired fifteen years and living like a king in Terradoro." Then he explained the name was the important thing for inspiring the necessary fear. You see, no one would surrender to the Dread Pirate Jaster.

    The two of them have by now crossed the pond.

    JASTER: So we went back to Concord Dawn, took on an entirely new crew and he stayed aboard for awhile as first mate, all the time calling me Boba. Once the crew believed, he left the ship and I have been Boba ever since. Except, now that we're together, I shall retire and hand the name over to someone else. Is everything clear to you?

    ***

    -TMcE
     
  12. Spike2002

    Spike2002 Former FF-UK RSA and Arena Manager star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Hmmm. Almost sounds like The Mask of Zorro.
     
  13. LastOneStanding

    LastOneStanding Jedi Padawan star 4

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    More like "The Princess Bride," if I understand McEwok's reference. Mind you, you'd need one or more R.O.U.S.es (Rodents of Unusual Size) to complete the allusion.
     
  14. CeiranHarmony

    CeiranHarmony Force Ghost star 5

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    I love the continuity fix, and it works well, but one thing disturbs me: Boba was around 13-18 years old when marrying and having a child, how do you explain this?

    And for all those critics of the official article, go reread your books, comics and articles! or read our discussion over at the articles thread about Mandalorians, we all already had the discussion! And though it is open how to fix the continuity, you can´t just talk certain sources into non-canon! they are there and we have to live with them, so either post constructive ideas, theories and so on, but don´t just say: No it is not that way because I don´t like it.
    Your opinion is your opinion, but your opinion is no fact, it could be based on facts, but for the most, it isn´t.

     
  15. Thrawn McEwok

    Thrawn McEwok Co-Author: Essential Guide to Warfare star 6 VIP

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    The PODUS itself serves as a substitute for the ROUSes?

    - The Imperial Ewok
     
  16. The_Mandalorian_

    The_Mandalorian_ Jedi Padawan star 4

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    <<I don't believe the Fett-married article. Tales of the Bounty Hunters specifically says Boba Fett had never so much held a woman in his arms and he had no desire to do so.>>

    Well, think of all the information we've seen that contradicts with that. He has a daughter and we've seen him in that cantina scene in the SE ROTJ.

    I dunno man, i personally see Boba as a person to not let that interfere with work, but when it comes to the rare bits of off time that he gets...ya know.
     
  17. rogue_wookiee

    rogue_wookiee Jedi Youngling star 6

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    Well, think of all the information we've seen that contradicts with that. He has a daughter and we've seen him in that cantina scene in the SE ROTJ.

    Both came after TBH AFAIK. Granted the SE is G-canon. But then again so is the fact that Greedo shoots first.
     
  18. CeiranHarmony

    CeiranHarmony Force Ghost star 5

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    AAIIIEEEEEEEEE... no Greedo discussion, please.. that change drove me insane!
     
  19. rogue_wookiee

    rogue_wookiee Jedi Youngling star 6

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    Same here. But I think the Boba change angers me more. I heard it angered the actor who played Boba back in the 80's.
     
  20. CeiranHarmony

    CeiranHarmony Force Ghost star 5

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    yeah actor jeremy bulloch lives from the fans selling autographs, and he is true Boba Fett. but for the Special edition refilming they didn´t use him but a special effects man or someone standing around who fitted into the costume. that angered him a lot!
     
  21. rogue_wookiee

    rogue_wookiee Jedi Youngling star 6

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    That would be quite a slap in the face to me. I completly understand his anger.

    Not to mention that they cut his voice out and replaced it with Temura Morrison.

    Not that that was a bad thing to keep with continuity. And if they asked Bulloch I have no problem with it.
     
  22. CeiranHarmony

    CeiranHarmony Force Ghost star 5

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    I wonder how it would have been to have Jeremy Bulloch as Boba Fett unmasked in the prequels.. or if the prequels somehow had incorporated Boba's now inofficial Jaster Mereel past.

    I have met the actor once on a convention and he looked great in his costume!
     
  23. Mavrick889

    Mavrick889 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    We're off topic, but Bulloch didn't provide Boba Fett's voice even in the original version of ESB.
     
  24. CeiranHarmony

    CeiranHarmony Force Ghost star 5

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    who did the voice then?
     
  25. Mavrick889

    Mavrick889 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Some American actor.
     
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