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The Emperor's Eyes

Discussion in 'Classic Trilogy' started by Wester547, Nov 8, 2004.

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  1. Wester547

    Wester547 Jedi Master star 4

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    Well this has been bothering me since it's been changed in the DVD release.

    Orignally in TESB when we first catch a visual representation of The Emperor, you can't see his eyes as his cloak is shadowing his eyes (I think).

    In ROTJ, during his arrival and afterwards you can't see his eyes until he reveals them as yellow and evil as they are to Luke himself when Luke arrives.

    But Lucas just had to go back and change the hologram/vocal performance of Emperor Palpatine in TESB also revealing his yellow eyes because? It just doesn't make sense IMO.

    Thoughts, comments on this?
     
  2. Super_Secret_Mario

    Super_Secret_Mario Jedi Youngling star 1

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    No, in the original version of that scene you could see his eyes but they were completely different (they were chimpazee eyes). Obviously, Lucas decided to fix that continuity error.
     
  3. Obi_Frans

    Obi_Frans Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Plus we'll most definitely see them in 'Sith' anyway so there's little use to 'hide' them all the way till 'Jedi' now.
     
  4. Errant_Venture

    Errant_Venture Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Yeah, the original emperor seen in ESB was an old woman/monkey hybrid, but he decided to get rid of that (hilerious) combo and replace it with Ian McDiarmid. It was for the best.
     
  5. Wester547

    Wester547 Jedi Master star 4

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    OK sorry for the trouble, a complete bad on my part I just remember seeing his eyes shadowed in the original / VHS SE release of TESB.
     
  6. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    >> It was for the best.<<

    Except for the loss of the scene's mood and atmosphere.

    ...and the loss of a good Emperor performance.

    ...and the loss of semi-decent Emperor makeup effects.
     
  7. b-wingmasterburnz

    b-wingmasterburnz Jedi Master star 3

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    It was the highest rank I achieved in the Emperor's Secret Order in TIE Fighter.
     
  8. Magic_Al

    Magic_Al Jedi Youngling star 3

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    The original version of the Emperor in TESB had chimp eyes superimposed which was weird looking. The new version still has weird eyes -- they still appear to be superimposed and don't flicker in sync with the rest of the hologram. Also, the Emperor does not blink once during the scene.
     
  9. Errant_Venture

    Errant_Venture Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    You attained the rank of "The Emperor's Eye"? Don't you mean "Emperor's Hand?" ;)

    I personally prefer the chimp over McDiarmid, mainly because I find it pretty funny. But I know I'd rather have McDiarmid in ESB than the chimp in ROTJ....well...I dunno about that. I mean the Chimp would throw in some comedic effect during the Vader/Luke/Emperor fight. :p
     
  10. DarthLassic007

    DarthLassic007 Jedi Master star 6

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    I'm glad Lucas changed it. Ian is much better than the old woman/chimp emperor.
     
  11. EH_Pilot

    EH_Pilot Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I liked the old version.

    The newer version loses a lot of its mood and atmosphere to it when we lost Clive's voice. Things could have been done to make the Emperor's eyes work better with the original, and it probably would have been for the better.
     
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