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The fall of the Bear Clan

Discussion in 'Archive: Revenge of the Sith (Non-Spoilers)' started by petmytauntaun, Nov 20, 2002.

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  1. petmytauntaun

    petmytauntaun Jedi Grand Master star 3

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    In AOTC, Anakin kills the children in the tribe of Tusken Raiders that kidnapped Shmi. He expresses his disgust for the Tuskens by saying, "I killed them...And not just the men. But the women, and children too! They're animals, and I slaughtered them like animals!" He's understandably angry that his mother is dead. Could this also be foreshadowing of an event in Ep. III?

    In ANH, Obi-Wan tells Luke that Vader helped the Emperor hunt down and destroy the Jedi. One would have to assume this would include the Jedi children in training. We likely won't see very much screen time of Anakin as Vader, but there will be some during the later part of the movie. With the Jedi being a regimented society as a whole, I would assume that training for the younglings would continue on a daily basis even if Yoda wasn't available to do so. At this point Yoda may already have left the temple, or could be occupied somewhere else, probably another Jedi would just stand in to direct the training in the case of Yoda's absence.

    Interior of the Jedi Temple: The camera angle is low and we see before us the young padawans in training. A pair of black boots and a swirling cape come into the frame. The camera pans up to show a black gloved hand appear from beneath the cape to ignite a red-bladed lightsaber. The camera continues to pan up and back, showing Vader from behind as he steps into the training room with the children staring up at him from behind the Jedi currently in charge. In their small hands are lightsabers activated in a valiant but vain attempt to defend themselves. The door slides shut behind Vader (because you know we won't actually see children being killed on screen) and we hear the sound of a lightsaber battle begin.

    Lucas has already said that Ep. III will be the darkest one in the whole saga, and a scene similar to this would be pretty dark indeed! Likely, we'll probably end up with a scene showing the Jedi temple being blown up and will just have to assume the children were inside. Oh well, only 30 months to go, then we can find out for sure!!




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  2. KaaShamau

    KaaShamau Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I don't think the average movie-goer would be able to accept Vaders redemption if the scene plays out as you describe.
    I honestly think the kids will be useless without their masters. Just my opinion though :)
     
  3. JediJunkie247

    JediJunkie247 Jedi Knight star 5

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    PMTT,

    That scene is not only dark, it is downright evil.
     
  4. Cow_Girl

    Cow_Girl Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    There is already a smiliar thread Here

    And I will say here what I said there, I think that scene would be way to drak, even if it does not actaully show any killings, IMO. I am well aware the episode 3 will be a very dark movie, but personally, I think even implying vader was going to slaughter those kids, its way over the top.
     
  5. KaaShamau

    KaaShamau Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Woah, four months and I'm saying exactly the same thing. Creepy...
     
  6. obi_wan_skiniobi

    obi_wan_skiniobi Jedi Youngling star 2

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    how is it any darker than lucas having Anakin say that he slaughtered the women and children tusken raiders...still he's not showing in directly.
     
  7. KaaShamau

    KaaShamau Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Becasue the kids are cute, and the tuskens killed his mother. Or something.
     
  8. petmytauntaun

    petmytauntaun Jedi Grand Master star 3

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    Why wouldn't they accept his redemption? He did after all kill the Tusken children, this is by his own admission. Just because we never see the Tuskens under their robes doesn't mean they aren't sentient beings. They can use tools, weapons, and build a village. Anakin and Cliegg{sp?} call them animals, (Cliegg{sp?} does so in the novel I think) but this is an opinion based on the views of civilized individuals. Just because they have a barbaric society doesn't mean they aren't intelligent thinking beings. From this perspective, children are children.

    Edit: Sorry, I looked but must have missed this similar thread...I'll lock this one.
     
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