The First Sith?

This topic can go in just about section but this seems the best place to ask first. Have there been any official (that being Lucasfilm approved) stories involving the very first Sith? Or Dark sider. I'm guessing not, though it intruiges me. The closest things I have found to refs abotu the earliest Sith are in the Golden Age of the Sith comic series and references from Kotor 1 and 2.
Does anyone know anything more than those sources have given?

 

The first darksider on record is Xendor, who apparently was the first member of the Jedi Order to go dark, thus causing the great shcism of light and dark.

I don't know where his story is told...

 

The thing is that Xendor was not a Sith. He was nothing more than a Dark Jedi. You don't start getting references about the "Dark Lords of the Sith" until closer to 23,000 years BBY. If I remember right, Ajunta Pall was the first recorded Dark Lord.

 

I think it was paul, but i'm not sure. If you ever see the dark side source book. I would check that out.

 

Ajunta Pall was *one* of the earliest, but not *the* earliest Dark Lord. He was certainly up there with those founders of the First Order (the merged-with-the-alien-species group), and the initial impressions you get from Knights seems to point to him as the oldest, but later on you find that this isn't the case.

To date, Xendor is the oldest darksider on record.

 

Ajunta Pall was *one* of the earliest, but not *the* earliest Dark Lord. He was certainly up there with those founders of the First Order (the merged-with-the-alien-species group), and the initial impressions you get from Knights seems to point to him as the oldest, but later on you find that this isn't the case.

To date, Xendor is the oldest darksider on record.

 

I'm under the impression that the whole group who left after the Jedi/Dark Jedi War and found the Sith and ruled over them (as the Sith Lords) are the first Sith Lords, and that it's not a single individual. Of course, there's nothing to support that

 

Where is Xendor mentioned? It's been a LONG time since I've read the Dark Side sourcebook. Is it in there?

 

I'm under the impression that the whole group who left after the Jedi/Dark Jedi War and found the Sith and ruled over them (as the Sith Lords) are the first Sith Lords, and that it's not a single individual. Of course, there's nothing to support that

That's the way it was told in the comics.

 

And it was also mentioned in KOTOR on Korriban I believe.

 

He first appeared in "The Emperor's Pawns" article from Gamer #5.

 

The first Sith should have a cooler name then Xender.

 

Hmm... I'd love to see a story about the very first Sith Lord. The idea of the original Schism and the turning of Xendor could make an incredible comic, provided it's done right. Problem is, lightsabers weren't around then, so they'd probably add them in anyway and contradict the EU because it likely wouldn't sell as much without them.

 

I'd be cool to see an early Force battle. Really raw, unrefined Force powers. Unless beam-tubes or protosabres were around at that point?

 

Again, unless someone can provide information to the otherwise, I don't believe Xendor was ever classified as a "Sith." He was supposedly an exceptionally terrifying darksider, but never more than that, IIRC.

As far as I know Kwenn, most battles fought during the First Jedi Schism involved sword-to-sword combat. It's quite possible though that Force spells of power unknown during the PT/OT were used commonly during the early "days" of the Old Republic.

 

The sith had crystal kinda swords which they charged with the dark side, when did they start using lightsabers?

Did the first Sith lightsaber have the tacky extension cord?

If i was a Sith that's the first thing I would got for before killing the Jedi

 

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Again, unless someone can provide information to the otherwise, I don't believe Xendor was ever classified as a "Sith." He was supposedly an exceptionally terrifying darksider, but never more than that, IIRC.[hr][/blockquote][/b]
Which was why I referred to him as "a darksider" above, and why the [i]Gamer[/i] article only describes him (IIRC) as launching the first major "dark side war" against the Jedi, and amassing an army of "dark Jedi," rather than Sith. He was undoubtedly an inspirational sugar-daddy for the Sith who came later, though.


[blockquote][b][hr] As far as I know Kwenn, most battles fought during the First Jedi Schism involved sword-to-sword combat. It's quite possible though that Force spells of power unknown during the PT/OT were used commonly during the early "days" of the Old Republic.[hr][/blockquote][/b]
Yup, which is fully supported by the fourth or fifth original [i]Tales of the Jedi[/i] issue, and its visual depiction of the "ancient darksiders" with their antique-y, old-timey "guthook" swords. The earliest lightsabers possessed bulky, unwieldy power-pack dojobbies, and didn't appear until around 10,000 BSW4, quite some time after the Sith Order made their grand entrance.

 

Xendor was dead before his fellow Dark Jedi were exiled and discovered the Sith. Check out TimeTales section 1.1, date 24,500 BSW4 (down at the bottom of the section. The third paragraph under this date deals with the Great Schism and Xendor being the first Dark Jedi, the fourth paragraph deals with Arden Lynn, mentioning that her lover was the Dark Jedi Xendor. It mentions that Xendor died and Arden Lynn was put into that death-like sleep she would remain in for thousands of years. Pretty much makes it very difficult for Xendor to have been a Sith Lord ever.

 

Perhaps i should have said First Darksider, when i say Sith that is basically what i mean.

Sounds as though Xender is the most likely candidate for Oldest Known Dark Sider. Most informative.

 

I'll agree wholeheartedly with that...

 

Although Arden Lyn may have been a darskider as early as Xendor.

 

i though they used cortosis weaves and, apparently back then was when the real force users were alive.

they had millenia of knowledge and power stored within there minds.
Ossus was still in existence,can u imagine how many of the higher mysteries were lost for eternity when that was destroyed.

I remember a line of darth traya's;

A true jedi,light or dark,in fact an army of true jedi would stand no match to a Jedi light or dark from a time long ago. with the advent of technologies we seem to be forgeting more, the future is not an improvement it is a decline away from a time when there was unmitigated power within the force, such powers will be lost forever, until rediscovered and mastered again.

 

Considering who it's from, I'd question how accurate it is. Dark siders tend to have a knack for turning things around to suit their purposes. There is nothing to say that this Darth Traya is not being truthful especially as the tone sounds neutral. But at the same time there seems to be a feeling of justifying their need for more power within the Force.