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The Galactic Federation of Free Alliances

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Darth Guy, Mar 27, 2004.

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  1. Darth Guy

    Darth Guy Chosen One star 10

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    Ever since Destiny's Way came-out and the Galactic Federation of Free Alliances was formed, people have had their own misinterpretations of what the "GFFA" is. I have seen false assertions posted, and, to my surprise, widely accepted. I have decided, for the benefit of others and of my sanity, to put a stop to this ignorance.

    First off, the Galactic Federation of Free Alliances is only the New Republic, reformed, renamed, and with a new constitution. It does not include any other galactic governments, such as the Empire, the Chiss, and the Hapans. Second, "Galactic Alliance" is short for "Galactic Federation of Free Alliances"; it is not a seperate institution. Do you think I'm wrong? Well, I'll prove it. This is a passage taken from the beginning of Chapter 27 in Destiny's Way, during a conversation between Luke Skywalker and the newly elected Chief of State, Cal Omas:
    "I've been thinking about the government and how to fix it." Cal said. "The war's sense of urgency has resulted in unity right now, but once the Senate decides we're goint to win, they're going to want to figure out how to get their hands on the spoils."

    Luke nodded. "What's your solution?"

    "Persuade the worlds to elect a more responsible senator?" Cal suggested weakly, and then laughed and his own absurdity.

    "You've got other ideas."

    Cal nodded. "Confine the Senate to its proper sphere, for one thing. It should legislate and supervise, not try to run the administration from day to day. A truly independent judiciary would curb their more ambitious manuevers. A new federalism that properly defines the boundaries between the Senate and the regimes on various planets."

    "You're talking a new constitution."

    Cal gave a tight-lipped little smile. "I'm even thinking of names. Federal Galactic Republic, Galactic Federation of Free Alliances."


    The abolishment of the New Republic and the creation of the Galactic Federation of Free Alliances is intended primarily to reduce the power of the legislative branch, for those who were wondering. Now please stop thinking the Galactic Federation of Free Alliances is something it is not.

    And, yes, I am bored. ;)


    EDIT- Title change by request
     
  2. Night4554

    Night4554 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Oh Lord. I'm even more confused by acronyms now. GFFA now has two meanings?

    ¤Night
     
  3. Darth Guy

    Darth Guy Chosen One star 10

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    Yup. Clever, hunh?
     
  4. Senator_Cilghal

    Senator_Cilghal Jedi Master star 5

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    acc. to Insicder, the choice of initial was a deliberate tip-of-the-hat.

    And this info is correct. In the NJO, the Imperials and CHiss were both very specific they would cooperate with, but not join, the GFFA (in the newer sense of those initials).
     
  5. Pelranius

    Pelranius Jedi Master star 5

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    Finally. I wonder if Flennic had the same misconceptions about the GFFA that some people on the forums here had? :)

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't the Hapans part of the NR?
     
  6. Excellence

    Excellence Jedi Knight star 7

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    To put my 2 cents in . . .

    They should have kept the New Republic name. Now, every time you say Galactic Alliance it has to be with the full name to avoid just Alliance, the well known one before it. NJO books from Remnant have never called it just one name.

    The combined military might of the New Rep, Hapan, Hutt, Imperial and Chiss forces should have been known as the Galactic Alliance.

    But hey, this is the NJO, right?
     
  7. Senator_Cilghal

    Senator_Cilghal Jedi Master star 5

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    Well, no, the Hapans remained independent and still are.

    I think CTD said a FEW worlds in the cluster joined the NR, however, in NJO, the Hapes Consorrtium has the same number of worlds as in COPL, so I guess those worlds left the NR and rejoined the COnsortium (hey, I made a continuity fix!). I think the NJO authors failed to do there homework. AGAIN. But the major Hapan worlds, inc. Hapes itself, NEVER joined the NR.
     
  8. AdmiralNick22

    AdmiralNick22 Retired Fleet Admiral star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Well done Darth_Guy. :)

    One thing that has always irritated me was the fact that so many people seem to think that the Galactic Alliance is either a weak, loose organization of worlds or a combination of the NR, IR, Hapan, Chiss, etc.

    Thank you for posting those quotes to clear it up. :)

    --Adm. Nick

     
  9. RogueWompRat

    RogueWompRat Jedi Youngling star 4

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    [Teal'c] Indeed. [Teal'c/]
     
  10. Moff_D

    Moff_D Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Ignorance is bliss.

    Sometimes :p

    So, you didn't have a school assigments to finish or anything? A nice bit of investigation though. ;)

     
  11. recurit03

    recurit03 Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Would be it be possible for us to get a list of all the MAJOR governments as in those that have multiple plants

    GFFA
    Empire
    Happan
    Chiss

    Any others?

    Also does the Chiss call there goverment something?
     
  12. Darth Guy

    Darth Guy Chosen One star 10

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    Hutts and the Corporate Sector are also seperate governments, iirc, though Hutt space was almost totally taken-over by the Vong(and I'm probably wrong about the Corporate Sector).
     
  13. 7-7-7

    7-7-7 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    The Galactic Alliance is NOT the New Republic reincarnated. Thats like saying the the Soviet Union and the Russian Federation are the same thing. If you are basing that assumption on a single quote from Destiny's Way about someone speculating as to what the future will bring, then that is some very poor evidence you have. I would highly suggest that you read the Force Heretic trilogy, The Final Prophecy, and the Unifying Force to get a better impression of what the GA is (based upon your first post, it doesn't look like you have read any of them, so get cracking!)

    The Galactic Alliance is just that...an alliance. At times it can include only a handful of political organizations, none of which were once part of the NR, or the whole galaxy, if need be. The Galactic Alliance doesn't have a military of its own. Its defensive stregnth is drawn from the varous member nations and other friendly organizations (like the Empire, the Hutts, Bel Iblis' followers, and the Chiss) who agree to do what they are told by the alliance leadership, but can refuse those orders at will, make their own wars, or participate in campaigns as they feel necessary (this particular fact became a serious issue in both the beginning of TFP and the middle of TUF)

    The leadership of the GA is completely different from that of the NR, in form, structure, membership, and policy. The only comparison that can be drawn between them is that both include a body called a "Senate" (A serious misnomer for the GA, which should have called their senate something like "Council", "Committee", or "Open Forum". See FH1)

    I'm thirsty, so I'm going to stop now. Will be back later, though.
     
  14. jhc36

    jhc36 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    *slams tattered hand down on table*

    but the Yuuzhan Vong will never join!!
     
  15. Darth Guy

    Darth Guy Chosen One star 10

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    7-7-7: If what you say is true, then why are the forces of the Galactic Alliance, Hapans, Imperials, etc. referred to as seperate? It took me long enough to find that DW quote, but I'll try to find one from TUF or another post-DW book. As an NJO reader, you probably know that inter-book continuity isn't perfect, and authors may have their own misinterpretations and/or miswordings.

    And the quote simply isn't someone speculating about the future, it's the Chief of State saying what he's going to do.\

    EDIT: DAMMIT! The Galactic Alliance and the Galactic Federation of Free Alliances are seperate, but my first post still stands when regarding the "GFFA."
     
  16. 7-7-7

    7-7-7 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Thats the thing. The only time when the Hapans, Imps, etc. forces are referred to separately is when all the factions are referred to separately. We never see "The Imperials, Hapans, Hutts, and Galactic Alliance" It is always the "Galactic Alliance" or "The Imperials, Hapans, Hutts, Eriaduans, Sullustians, Bothans, Kuatis, etc..."
     
  17. Darth Guy

    Darth Guy Chosen One star 10

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    From my search for quotes, it seems the "Galactic Alliance" or "Alliance" is a loose WW2-Allies-type organization, not any type of union, against the Vong, and the "Galactic Federation of Free Alliances" is what replaced the New Republic.
     
  18. Rogue_Ten

    Rogue_Ten Chosen One star 7

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    This will be a thread long remembered... ;)
     
  19. Senator_Cilghal

    Senator_Cilghal Jedi Master star 5

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    No, Galactic Alliance is just short for GFFA.
     
  20. Darth Guy

    Darth Guy Chosen One star 10

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    Ah, I was thrown into doubt, but I found something that's undeniable proof. Some may dismiss it as an obscure quote, but I don't care. From page 91 of the hardcover version of TUF, the final book in the NJO:
    Finally there had been the disastrous attempt by combined Alliance and Imperial Remnant forces to reclaim Bilbringi.
    I am now completely confident in my original position. After my search for truth, I understand the misinterpretations. Vague references and half-descriptions are confusing. Just don't take advantage of my low self-confidence again, please. :( ;)
     
  21. KansasNavy

    KansasNavy Jedi Master star 4

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    There are several instances where it mentions Galactic Alliance and Chiss or Galactic Alliance and Remnant in the Force Heretic series.
     
  22. Senator_Cilghal

    Senator_Cilghal Jedi Master star 5

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    Darth, I knew you were right all along.
     
  23. Darth Guy

    Darth Guy Chosen One star 10

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