The Halcyon-Horn line of Jedi

I have a question. I got to reading NJO again and came across a line about Corran and his lack of TK.... about how the Halcyon-Horn line of Jedi never had TK. This makes me wonder... is he perhaps the decendant of Nejaa Halcyon, who, if anyone read Jedi Trial will remember he was a Master who was married and had a son named Valin... which is also Corran's son's name... So would Corran be the son or grandson of Valin Halcyon, who's father was Jedi Master Nejaa Halcyon... and if so, does that mean Nejaa might have survived the purge?

 

Yes, he is the son of Valin "Hal Horn" Halcyon.

No, Nejaa was killed towards the end of the Clone Wars.

Rostek Horn then adopted Nejaa's son Valin and renamed him "Hal Horn".

It's all here:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Nejaa_Halycon

 

Neat. So I was actually right in thinking that. Cool. I need to find out which books Nejaa was in other than Jedi Trial, since I really liked his character.

 

I think that he was in a flashback sequence in I Jedi..

 

Right; that's where most of the info on his demise is from.

There's also a short story in which he figures called "Elusion Illusion."

 

I wonder what the likelihood of getting a full series on Nejaa Halcyon is? It would be amazing, I think, he was probably one of the most "human" Jedi Masters.. he wasn't always dour and grim like Mace Windu, wasn't amazingly wise and dexterous like Yoda, didn't have a big ole cone head like Ki Adi Mundi (I think that's him)... he actually had feelings, thoughts that weren't always in line with the Council's line (he got married and had a child, for instance)... having where he failed to capture Slayke, and then later on goes into that battle with the Dark Jedi... it would be an absolutely amazing series.

 

I would say its unlikely because as a result of the prequels it is now a muddled mess. When Neeja died Hal Horn/Valin Halcyon was something like 31 years old. Which means Rostek Horn adopted a middle aged man and for some reason Neeja never got around to training his son. And then Corran was born like a year later. When the X-wing books were written and Neeja's backstory was hinted at everyone was thinking the Clone Wars had taken place about 40 years BBY rather than roughly 20 years we have now. I have no idea how they can make it all work now. Is there some book where it has been established that Valin Halcyon chose not be a Jedi?

 

Wouldn't it make the most sense to have Rostek Horn adopt Valin/Hal already some time before Nejaa's death and the Jedi Purge? Seeing how he wouldn't be able to care for his son all the time AND try to hide the truth from the Jedi Council, there might have been some offcial adoption going on, which only later on resulted in Valin "choosing" the Horn side (and his own family) completely to be safe. Or maybe he had some "Daddy left me to die for the Jedi" issues...

Also, Nejaa might not have wanted to have Valin raised as a Jedi. It would have raised uncomfortable questions, and additionally, it would have resulted in Valin having the same life he had. Having to hide love and all.

 

Very good suggestions all round, I think.

 

Looks like we have a good start on the basis of a Nejaa Halcyon novel series for the EU... I swear, he's an insanely interesting character, and I often wondered what happened other than Jedi Trial

 

Thanks, Ulicus.

I'll agree that he would make an interesting protagonist for a few novels, but seeing how SW EU gets developed, I wouldn't hold my breath. The most probable thing is a Galaxy Guide (or whatever these source books are called) entry dealing with retconning stuff together, closely followed by a short story. But seeing how the Prequel/CW era is in limbo right now (in favor of the Dark Time era), I would even be surprised by that short story.

A time-proven example for this is definitely the guy in my avatar pic. It took about a decade to get them to only mention Kyle in a novel. There still hasn't been a full novel with him as the protagonist although the videogames made him a really popular and recognizeable character.

I also wonder about the best author for Nejaa stories. Stackpole would be the obvious choice. I wasn't that impressed with Cragg and Sherman. I would read Palpatine's phone book as written by Matt Stover. Any suggestions?

BTW, you should really check out "I, Jedi", as it's "the origin" of the Halcyon line and Nejaa. And while you're at it, enjoy the X-Wing novels, as well (I, Jedi is like installment 8,5 of this series).

 

Per The Krytos Trap, Nejaa took Valin as his apprentice and they were officially photographed as such. He may have hid Valin's true identity, but he didn't keep him from becoming a Jedi. And as a Corellian Jedi, a group known to follow the rules loosely and maintain a rather independent tradition, it wouldn't be that unusual for him to able to keep their true relationship secret to the Coruscant council. Moreover, we know that Hal was only adopted after Nejaa's death when Rostek married his widow and adopted Hal to keep them safe from the Empire. The Corellian tradition explains things well enough; early adoption just musses things up.

 

Valin was Nejaa's apprentice? What I read on Jedi Trial he was on Cirellia with his mother during the Clone Wars, but he could have been two or twenty five for all we know...

That's the main reason why I was so disapointed in Jedi Trial, the Horn/Halcyon continuity didn't get solved, just more complicated.

 

Why not have Hal Horn's birthdate as 35 BBY? That makes him 13 at the beginning of the Clone Wars, old enough to be his father's padawan, sixteen when he's "adopted" and seventeen when he has Corran - young, but not ridiculously young.

 

Ignore.

(sorry, what I wrote was ridiculously idiotic)

 

17 still is young though.

 

Someone needs to read the Rogue Squadron books, along with I, Jedi I think...

 

Not as young as Boba when they retconned that child...

Thinking about it, I believe it's about ten years since I read The Krytos Trap. I honestly don't remember all the information that Corran finds out...well, maybe I'll finally get around to read all the novels again now that current EU doesn't do it for me anymore...

EDIT: Thinking about it some more, Palpatine's Jedi purge and the resulting state of misinformation is mentioned quite explicitly in the series, so maybe we can explain that holo away as something with a wrong label ("Hm, did Dad really have horns on his forehead...?")

 

While I admire Lucasworld's attemp to tie every thing together in canon this was another example of something that would have been better off left alone. I thought the Jedi Trial book was lacking in many ways including how the it hinted that the Jedi knew about Halcyon's wife and thus paired Anakin with him because of his similar situation...........you know I read this along time back now and am probably muddling some things but thats how it came across to me. It took the central Republic Era Jedi law about attachment and tossed it out the window to try and fit together something which was written pre-prequels. If the masters knew he had a wife wouldn't he just have been expelled from the order? And I don't think they knew of Anakin's situation with Padme, even if Obi-Wan suspected it.

 

Well, I don't think Palpatine had much reason to alter the Galactic Museum's identification of a holo as "Nejaa Halcyon and his secret son" to "Nejaa Halcyon and an unnamed apprentice".

 

Except Palpatine lied just to lie. He was a politician and a sith, after all. A dangerous combination for a government.

 

Does Corran find out about his father and grandfather in I, Jedi? He sees a few hints in Krytos, and Whistler says that he has a message for him in Bacta War, but IIRC Corran says he doesn't want to hear it and doesn't hear it until I, Jedi.

 

Luke tells him at the end of The Krytos Trap that he's a Jedi and descended from the Halcyons, IIRC, but it's not until I, Jedi that he gets the full story from his dad's holo.

 

All right! A Halcyon-Horn thread! Awesome!

I've got one of the Rogue Squadron series, and Dark Nest I and II series of Corran Horn. To me, he and his family are awesome. Although they can't use telekinesis, they're still strong in the Force. And that Neeja Halcyon guy... I think he's pretty cool too. It was nice of him to leave his wife and son behind to live with Rostek Horn. If it hadn't been for him, the Halcyon wouldn't be no more.