The Jedi and the Teras Kasi

In Episode One, Darth Maul, a product of Teras Kasi training, was capable of overwhelming two Jedi.

In Shadows of the Empire, this particular style of combat is referred to once again, thus, it has survived the fall of the old Republic.

My question: Why have the Jedi never incorporated Teras Kasi techniques into their training?

If Qui-Gon Jinn and Obi-Wan Kenobi had trained in the art, they might have stood a better chance against Maul.

Furthermore, incorporoating these techniques into Jedi combat education would serve to make them more effective keepers of the peace--at least, in my opinion.


If Jedi actually do represent the Teras Kasi, then I apologize for this thread. To my knowledge, the Teras Kasi are Martial Arts, and I haven't yet really seen Jedi displaying adeptness with Martial Arts...

 

The way I understand it is the Teras Kasi martial arts are the deadliest style in the known galaxy.

Given the fact that Luke and other Masters of Teras Kasi characters display it my guess is that the Jedi knighthood DO use the Teras Kasi martial arts as part of their training.

However the fact remains Qui Gon Jinn is a swordsman professionally and not a very acrobatic individual while Obi Wan Kenobi is signifcantly moreso he depends a great deal on his master's teachings.

Darth Maul was simply better at sword fighting, Teras kasi fighting, and acrobatics than both

He was to my knowledge after all never trained in diplomacy, peaceful meditation, and other things that occupy a Jedi's time

 

"Given the fact that Luke and other Masters of Teras Kasi characters display it my guess is that the Jedi knighthood DO use the Teras Kasi martial arts as part of their training."

Who else is a Master of the Teras Kasi?

Also, I have never seen Luke perform any demonstrations of having been trained in the art. Who trained him? When was he trained?

 

[Who else is a Master of the Teras Kasi?]

I think it was implied by the book Shadows of the Empire and confirmed by the Shadows of the Empire sourcebook that Prince Xizor's peculiar brand of martial arts which he uses as a past-time inbetween conquering the galaxy is Teras Kasi.

Rather like modern Kung Fu I suspect that it's originally a much more lethal art than it is probably widely practiced now but holds very little similarity to it's original progenitors. Furthermore because star wars is a mystical universe my guess is that Teras-Kasi masters likely originally used the art in conjunction with the Force as it's highest levels (necessitating it's adoption by the Jedi) and likely most were wiped out by the Emperor or fell on their own accord to other troubles with only the Jedi remaining/merging with them

[Also, I have never seen Luke perform any demonstrations of having been trained in the art. Who trained him? When was he trained?]

It's entirely possible Teras Kasi is a bit like karate and taught to most soldiery (at least in it's diluted form) as part of training. The video game itself shows Han Solo, Leia, Boba Fett, and Chewbacca as also characters and it's likely they all have some training in forms similar. Han-Imperial Navy, Leia-Defense training...Mandalorian Death training may in fact be based on Teras-Kasi given the art of Teras Kasi is at least 100,000 years of age and predates the Sith's first insurrection (I may be mistaken here)

Chewie of them all Ironically probably has the best grounding because while we think of the fellow as a huge brawler in truth from what we've seen of his ease to study and master the martial arts and his great age Chewbacca is a conesquerer of combat techniques and may have studied quite extensively the art before slavery.

If I had to guess where Luke learned the origins of the Fighting Style I would suspect it was on Dagobah where it was expanded on by Yoda initial Rebel alliance training (though as a pilot I initially doubted he'd be trained I soon realized Luke was less in the airforce than Rebel Special Forces) with his mastery of the Force

His "force leap" seems among the basic princibles of the style and it's possible if highly unlikely given the Jedi are based on Shaolin monks to a degree that they're original order which practiced swordsmanship instead of using lightsabers might have been among the originators.

Though that may be giving Teras Kasi too much credit and pedigree and making the universe that much smaller

This is mostly speculation, it is after all a fighting game

 

I think Darsha was trained in the art of Teras Kasi. I am unsure as to wether Luke was a master of Teras Kasi, but you never know...

I wish I knew Teras Kasi .

I think Qui-Gon was a very good swordsmen, possibly equal to Maul, but Qui was also much older than Maul, and well...he could not keep up with his youthful foe.

 

My guess is that Luke's few months on Dagobah (after all the Millenieum falcon journeyed through space a LONG time at sublight speed) wasn't enough to fully ground Luke in the full arts of being a Jedi.

He got his butt kicked pretty bad by Vader after all and much more had he to learn.

I think it was mostly Darth Maul was trained in the ways of the Dark Side and for battle only than Qui Gon was older. Even a youthful man would have been soon exhausted by the Force/fighting extertion needed to battle the living engine of death

 

"I am unsure as to wether Luke was a master of Teras Kasi, but you never know..."

If he isn't one, what was he doing in the "Masters of Teras Kasi" video game?

 

I never gave Masters of the Teras Kasi much credit. To me, it looks like a fighting game that was whipped up for fun above anything else.

Has there been any other sources that claim Luke is a student of the Teras Kasi? Han Solo? Leia? Chewbacca? Bobba Fett?

None of the novels I've read have ever mentioned Luke having studied the Teras Kasi--let alone Chewbacca.


"I think Darsha was trained in the art of Teras Kasi."

Darsha is the Jedi Padawan in Shadow Hunter? If she is, the novel never said anything about her having been trained in the Teras Kasi techniques.

 

Point to JAS!

JMA

 

No but then again Teras Kasi is the only source that says Darth maul knows it and it seems quite indicative he's using a Dark Side version of the Jedi martial arts by both the movie and novelization.

hence deduction.

Furthermore in the West End Games RPG all the Heroes of Yavin and Boba Fett have at least professional skill (4d) Chuck norris style in brawling.

 

"Teras Kasi is the only source that says Darth maul knows it"

Masters of the Teras Kasi is the only source that says Darth Maul knows the Teras Kasi techniques?

I recall Shadow Hunter making a few references to the Teras Kasi, stating that Darth Maul indeed practiced the technique.

 

No, Darth maul isn't IN Masters of Teras Kasi actually so Shadow Hunter is the only source of it.

Furthermore Mara Jade is a character in it as well (MoTK not SH)

 

Luke in Masters of teras kasi doesn't use teras kasi moves.

Only Arden, and her two apprentices, the gamorrean and tusken raider are trained in teras kasi in the game. As well han solo is said to know a few moves, he learned by old spacer, so he has one teras kasi move. Beyond that none of the other characters use teras kasi.

All of the backhistory is in the manual and simple enough to read and know who are the teras kasi users in the game.

 

Many of the Jedi are trained in Tëras Käsi. It's a very old very effective Martial Art.

 

"Many of the Jedi are trained in Tëras Käsi."

Which Jedi? And are there any novels I can purchase that'll have them displaying their skills in it?

Luke's Jedi don't practice the Teras Kasi, though, do they?

 

I don't know about the NJO, but in the old days it was presumably taught either SOP or by choice, because at least some of them know it. And so do the Pikkel/Pike sisters.

 

Luke doesn't know teras kasi as far as I know, and he surely didn't know it in the game. Since he still didn't know it after the events in that game I doubt he learned it afterwords. teras kasi masters are rare at the time of Galactic Civil War, so I doubt he found someone to teach him. Arden Lyn is an evil character that went missing after that events of the game, so luke wouldn't have learned the moves from her.

 

Thanks, guys. I appreciate it.

The reason I was wondering about Luke's education in Teras Kasi is because of his involvement with the game. I've never played it, but the fact that he was in a game titled Masters of the Teras Kasi had me wondering.

Again, thanks.

 

On the Qui-Gon swordsman issue ...

Shadow hunter confirms that Qui-Gon is one of the better Jedi swordsmen when Maul says he would have rather tested himself against one of the best Jedi swordsman, like Qui-Gon or Plo Koon.

Too bad he never came up against Micah Giiet. He is the KING!

 

No, Kast, Anoon Bondara is the best Jedi Swordsman, not Micah

 

Lets not let this get off the topic IATDS





Micah G Rules! : D

 

It's rather on topic actually.

Is Teras Kasi also a sword variant?

We know Kendo and a variety of other styles gave birth to Lucas's fighting style so what would one call it?

 

Teras Kasi is just hand to hand, legs, body, weaponless combat style. "Steel Hands".

 

"Teras Kasi is just hand to hand, legs, body, weaponless combat style. 'Steel Hands'."

Indeed. *Nods in agreement*

 

though the tusken hoar, and gamorean thok did fit in axe and gaffa stick into the their moves. But that went beyond the steel hand style to hybrid style. According to the manual their teras kasi moves don't take advantage of those weapons though. They had just incorprated traditional fighting style of there species into their teras kasi styles.